Re: [DNG] elogind and libelogind0
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 04:04:43PM +, Mark Hindley wrote: > The choice is yours. For completeness, perhaps I should have mentioned that you can always forgo all of this complexity and try openbox. Mark ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] elogind and libelogind0 (WAS: Re: We need upgrade reports
On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 13:53:09 + Mark Hindley wrote: > On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 08:39:45AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Just wondering -- did it refuse to boot or be otherwise seriously > > unusable until you had installed elogind and libelogind0? Were > > your text-only consoles affected? Or did it just interfere with > > desktops? > > > > And just curious -- never heard of these before systemd. What do > > they do? > > From https://github.com/elogind/elogind/: > > 'The systemd project's "logind", extracted to a standalone package' Extracted to a standalone package is a small step in the right direction. > > It keeps a record of logins, seats and sessions and maps pids to > those so that desktoppy things like being able to reboot from the > desktop work without having to become root. IIRC, I've been able to reboot from the Window manager for about 20 years now. Systemd! SteveT Steve Litt December 2019 featured book: Rapid Learning for the 21st Century http://www.troubleshooters.com/rl21 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] elogind and libelogind0
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 04:10:56PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > ..which should we use, elogind or consolekit? It probably depends on which desktop you want to use. AFAIK in beowulf, xfce4 with slim or lightdm can use either consolekit or elogind. Most other destops (mate, cinnamon, lxqt, budgie...) only work with elogind. I think ascii is a bit more restrictive than that, but it was before my time. elogind is actively maintained upstream and in Devuan, indeed we are the packaging upstream for Debian ;). Consolekit (actually consolekit2) is pretty inactive upstream. The choice is yours. Mark ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] elogind and libelogind0
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 04:10:56PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..chking elogind history, I found > https://git.devuan.org/amesser/elogind is 404, what happened, > and who is in control of https://github.com/elogind/elogind/ ? elogind packaging for Devuan has been moved a while ago to official Devuan Packages: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages/elogind The github URL posted is the upstream project (Without Debian/Devuan packaging). cheers, Andreas -- gnuPG keyid: 8C2BAF51 fingerprint: 28EE 8438 E688 D992 3661 C753 90B3 BAAA 8C2B AF51 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] elogind and libelogind0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 16:10:56 +0100 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > ..which should we use, elogind or consolekit? choosing elogind over consolekit will save you a lot of hassle later on. libre Grüße, Florian -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEELAr/aHjRNwfZVZJo7kVJef5EH9YFAl4TT8QACgkQ7kVJef5E H9Z4Fg/9GjyPOgoT2WigsaHlDI1/N8ZJQ8gPxflBA8J/yFdkN4xCGlLIqTfnmKw0 I1quZKWCWmWlOJic7v2Crc/jcOxRg7sepLDeoVgafhK0GqDPTeg79mixoHBpiaKc oTk26noUhJ6oRBcBC4viNq99iYnwuM1PndvvKaxbrCCjan5jC/aUffhZw1lA/d9D Uw3dFYfA6M8bUpdzYg6FDTr/Yn75BO23Vu8VHsvR3jkoID9CzrDKWOkYH/hT431D Xzb6UZKsAOPdtn9t5sLp8md0pfB+obTOW+aXoicKg+XRPLeLeSCZp5PzcNpf/JX6 Dvt4VsM68Y+v8ectavrovm/LTP1+LuSQ/tD8WgA+piLAphW9dcuN0AuRPxHo55Ke nQBkU/e5yh62sfzhrPPoYz9S0fKNZqD9PE+PpVQvcpDN76JlLwHvlPRPl0AL+Msy yHa6wFgOBtxnnxCvdzMOFNe6w48kLjYQEb40Md1Q9HG42U9O5LOzi6qHsF4Rv5ga W7Pe+3HUSA8MTs3vLa7/i8kgdISkpKn6r2EEdiomZCsox8Usw316H7suYL3Gsl02 Mvih95Mv/WAFjZfxluC24kIHE+pGgQWtIdqS4nF2OcfCnpNxvO1qbnMCrc8hTQCH 3/fJ8DWTEO7CyWCsoBNz5a+J/MogyxUFRWBT5PsVWKvkO+WtemU= =hWjm -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] elogind and libelogind0
On Mon, 6 Jan 2020 14:16:06 +, Mark wrote in message <20200106141606.gs27...@hindley.org.uk>: > On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 09:10:44AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 01:53:09PM +, Mark Hindley wrote: > > > On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 08:39:45AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > Just wondering -- did it refuse to boot or be otherwise > > > > seriously unusable until you had installed elogind and > > > > libelogind0? Were your text-only consoles affected? Or did it > > > > just interfere with desktops? > > > > > > > > And just curious -- never heard of these before systemd. What > > > > do they do? > > > > > > >From https://github.com/elogind/elogind/: > > > > > > 'The systemd project's "logind", extracted to a standalone > > > package' > > > > > > It keeps a record of logins, seats and sessions and maps pids to > > > those so that desktoppy things like being able to reboot from the > > > desktop work without having to become root. > > > > I see. So in effect it provides a privilege check on rebooting. > > Indirectly. policykit-1 does the checking, but asks elogind or > consolekit if the requesting pid is part of the session that it > claims. ..chking elogind history, I found https://git.devuan.org/amesser/elogind is 404, what happened, and who is in control of https://github.com/elogind/elogind/ ? ..which should we use, elogind or consolekit? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] elogind and libelogind0
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 09:10:44AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 01:53:09PM +, Mark Hindley wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 08:39:45AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > Just wondering -- did it refuse to boot or be otherwise seriously > > > unusable until you had installed elogind and libelogind0? Were your > > > text-only consoles affected? Or did it just interfere with desktops? > > > > > > And just curious -- never heard of these before systemd. What do they > > > do? > > > > >From https://github.com/elogind/elogind/: > > > > 'The systemd project's "logind", extracted to a standalone package' > > > > It keeps a record of logins, seats and sessions and maps pids to those so > > that > > desktoppy things like being able to reboot from the desktop work without > > having > > to become root. > > I see. So in effect it provides a privilege check on rebooting. Indirectly. policykit-1 does the checking, but asks elogind or consolekit if the requesting pid is part of the session that it claims. Mark ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] elogind and libelogind0
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 01:53:09PM +, Mark Hindley wrote: > On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 08:39:45AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Just wondering -- did it refuse to boot or be otherwise seriously > > unusable until you had installed elogind and libelogind0? Were your > > text-only consoles affected? Or did it just interfere with desktops? > > > > And just curious -- never heard of these before systemd. What do they > > do? > > >From https://github.com/elogind/elogind/: > > 'The systemd project's "logind", extracted to a standalone package' > > It keeps a record of logins, seats and sessions and maps pids to those so that > desktoppy things like being able to reboot from the desktop work without > having > to become root. I see. So in effect it provides a privilege check on rebooting. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [DNG] elogind and libelogind0 (WAS: Re: We need upgrade reports
On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 08:39:45AM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Just wondering -- did it refuse to boot or be otherwise seriously > unusable until you had installed elogind and libelogind0? Were your > text-only consoles affected? Or did it just interfere with desktops? > > And just curious -- never heard of these before systemd. What do they > do? From https://github.com/elogind/elogind/: 'The systemd project's "logind", extracted to a standalone package' It keeps a record of logins, seats and sessions and maps pids to those so that desktoppy things like being able to reboot from the desktop work without having to become root. Mark ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
