Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey
these sketches by xiep are sweet, but I wouldn't like to follow up on the monkey metaphore. Also, Ximian already did the monkey thing... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey
В Wed, 04 Mar 2015 21:13:43 +0100 x...@openmailbox.org пишет: I'm not a professional artist, but maybe it's the only thing that I can collaborate. Please, find attach a link with two images with sketches for your consideration. There are a logo idea and some marketing cartoons (similar to openbsd artwork http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html ). http://imageshack.com/a/img673/3843/ysTXTQ.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img901/9656/hRoqIm.jpg Salud! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHC9HE7vazI Pardon me but to me it looks like folling w/ Devuan! Like the guilty of capturing Debian, laugh over us! Sthu. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey
On Thu, 05 Mar 2015, Ста Деюс wrote: В Wed, 04 Mar 2015 21:13:43 +0100 x...@openmailbox.org пишет: I'm not a professional artist, but maybe it's the only thing that I can collaborate. Please, find attach a link with two images with sketches for your consideration. There are a logo idea and some marketing cartoons (similar to openbsd artwork http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html ). http://imageshack.com/a/img673/3843/ysTXTQ.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img901/9656/hRoqIm.jpg Salud! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHC9HE7vazI Pardon me but to me it looks like folling w/ Devuan! Like the guilty of capturing Debian, laugh over us! I guess it refers to this tweet bullying us some time ago with the usual arrogance of systemd hooligans https://twitter.com/_Vrunk/status/555994819852787712 these sketches by xiep are sweet, but I wouldn't like to follow up on the monkey metaphore. ciao ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey
Hey, I've always loved the mascots for the logos (Tux and others). Someone on twitter compared us with monkeys for wanting to fork Debian. The answer of Jaromil inspired me this character that send you today. I'm late , I know, I know. I'm not a professional artist, but maybe it's the only thing that I can collaborate. Please, find attach a link with two images with sketches for your consideration. There are a logo idea and some marketing cartoons (similar to openbsd artwork http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html ). http://imageshack.com/a/img673/3843/ysTXTQ.jpg http://imageshack.com/a/img901/9656/hRoqIm.jpg Salud! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHC9HE7vazI Xiep On 2015-02-26 16:05, Anto wrote: On 26/02/15 15:50, hellekin wrote: The logo threads are multiplying: it shows the impatience is growing. What I'd like to see instead is a focus on a real issue we have, which is shipping desktop background designs. This is not a unique item, so people can have the distro shipped with the background they'd like to use. Isn't that more interesting? Yes. That would be interesting. But we would need a logo on the background, wouldn't we? Or are we going to use what ever backgrounds that are currently available in Debian with Debian logo? ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey
On 03/04/15 17:13, x...@openmailbox.org wrote: I'm not a professional artist, but *** You're quite talented :) The monkey looks a bit aggressive, I don't think it needs to be. If you have more sketches, I'd love to see them. Cheers, == hk -- _ _ We are free to share code and we code to share freedom (_X_)yne Foundation, Free Culture Foundry * https://www.dyne.org/donate/ ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:22:28PM +, Nuno Magalhães wrote: On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Jaromil jaro...@dyne.org wrote: Is likely not going to be the most interesting thing in Devuan, but anyway I wish we tag this process soon with some black and white minimalist design to be used, Prior to recent (at least in Debian) releases, Xorg came with the classic checkered monochrome pattern, i'm cool with that :) No. The checkered monochrome background flickered horribly on some monitors. Bad default. (Now it comes with a black background which is really moronic 'cos it leaves me wondering Did --configure barf or is this the root window?). Different colour would clear that up. -- hendrik ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey
Of course. Should I make that link public on this list? Thanks. On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Go Linux goli...@yahoo.com wrote: On Wed, 2/25/15, Linuxito ad...@linuxito.com wrote: Subject: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2015, 10:10 AM Hi people, As you may know, we have been collecting logo proposals for Devuan in the Without Systemd Wiki: http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Logo Now I have created a new (more graphical) survey, to give a vote to your favorite logo: https://surveymonkey.com/s/Q7HV9GZ Remember this is not an authoritative poll and intends to help the design team to make a choice on what we have at present. This is important because: 1- we cannot trust 100% the survey tools; and 2- we have decided to not select things by majority voting, but by a specialized workgroup. Greetings, Emiliano. Thanks for setting this up. Is there a URL where we can see the results in real time? golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Linuxito wrote: Of course. Should I make that link public on this list? perhaps not, just mail the pass to golinux waters are calmer, but trolls and vandalism is still behind the corner, we cannot be too lax on our infrastructure. by the time the systemd hooligans will realize that Devuan is a serious project that will deliver, we'll have to face some fights I guess... First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. Mahatma Gandhi and as of today they are still laughing.. ciao ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey
Thanks Jaromil, We outpassed the 100 responses limit in the survey (122 actually) and sadly surveymonkey will only show you that 100 (unless you pay). I'm going to send the link to golinux. Have a great day. Emiliano. On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Jaromil jaro...@dyne.org wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Linuxito wrote: Of course. Should I make that link public on this list? perhaps not, just mail the pass to golinux waters are calmer, but trolls and vandalism is still behind the corner, we cannot be too lax on our infrastructure. by the time the systemd hooligans will realize that Devuan is a serious project that will deliver, we'll have to face some fights I guess... First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win. Mahatma Gandhi and as of today they are still laughing.. ciao ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Linuxito wrote: Thanks Jaromil, We outpassed the 100 responses limit in the survey (122 actually) and sadly surveymonkey will only show you that 100 (unless you pay). we do have funds to pay that in case the design workgroup deems it as a useful way to collect feedback. ciao ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey
If this is something we are going to be doing more often, I can deploy https://opinahq.com/ or https://www.limesurvey.org/en/ (or whatever else people prefer) On 26 February 2015 at 13:54, Jaromil jaro...@dyne.org wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Linuxito wrote: Thanks Jaromil, We outpassed the 100 responses limit in the survey (122 actually) and sadly surveymonkey will only show you that 100 (unless you pay). we do have funds to pay that in case the design workgroup deems it as a useful way to collect feedback. ciao ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey
I tried limesurvey once, works great. That would be great. On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Martijn Dekkers devuan-li...@dekkers.org.uk wrote: If this is something we are going to be doing more often, I can deploy https://opinahq.com/ or https://www.limesurvey.org/en/ (or whatever else people prefer) On 26 February 2015 at 13:54, Jaromil jaro...@dyne.org wrote: On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Linuxito wrote: Thanks Jaromil, We outpassed the 100 responses limit in the survey (122 actually) and sadly surveymonkey will only show you that 100 (unless you pay). we do have funds to pay that in case the design workgroup deems it as a useful way to collect feedback. ciao ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey
On 02/26/15 10:24, Linuxito wrote: The logo threads are multiplying: it shows the impatience is growing. I disagree. IMHO the logo threads show a lot of users like to chip in with their opinions. No harm there, and no impatience either. I believe rushed things tend to hit fans. Therefore, i'd rather wait longer and have a decent, stable(ish) alpha rather than having a cool looking breakage-prone thing tomorrow. I vote for Release when ready.™ What I'd like to see instead is a focus on a real issue we have, which is shipping desktop background designs. This is not a unique item, so people can have the distro shipped with the background they'd like to use. Isn't that more interesting? Nope. *To me*, it's neither a real issue nor is it interesting and along the same lines i don't give a rat's ass about the logo either (although i obviously do have aesthetic preferences and picked a logo from the poll). Since alpha's gonna ship with a minimalist DE, i'd go with a gradient/solid color background and focus developer time in real issues like removing systemd dependencies. I'd even be cool with no GUI in the alpha release, but i grok and support how a minimalist DE is a good compromise. On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Jaromil jaro...@dyne.org wrote: Is likely not going to be the most interesting thing in Devuan, but anyway I wish we tag this process soon with some black and white minimalist design to be used, Prior to recent (at least in Debian) releases, Xorg came with the classic checkered monochrome pattern, i'm cool with that :) (Now it comes with a black background which is really moronic 'cos it leaves me wondering Did --configure barf or is this the root window?). My personal 2¢ Cheers, Nuno ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote: Prior to recent (at least in Debian) releases, Xorg came with the classic checkered monochrome pattern, i'm cool with that :) No. The checkered monochrome background flickered horribly on some monitors. Bad default. AFAIK it was there exactly for that, so that one could tune the frequency and check the distortion of the monitor. That was back in the times in which we used to configure XF86Config by hand and sometimes having ad-hoc modelines for non-standard monitors. ciao ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:22:28PM +, Nuno Magalh??es wrote: Prior to recent (at least in Debian) releases, Xorg came with the classic checkered monochrome pattern, i'm cool with that :) (Now it comes with a black background which is really moronic 'cos it leaves me wondering Did --configure barf or is this the root window?). I like the root weave too. If you want it back, use Xorg -retro or xsetroot -def. HTH, Isaac Dunham ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey
Hello Emiliano, I like the Stylized Galaxy logo (the 2 blue boomerangs forming a flipped S letter). But there is no corresponding logo with text/font (on the next page). It would look strange if the main logo and the logo with text/font do not match. Kind regards, Anto ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey
On Wed, 2/25/15, Linuxito ad...@linuxito.com wrote: Subject: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2015, 10:10 AM Hi people, As you may know, we have been collecting logo proposals for Devuan in the Without Systemd Wiki: http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Logo Now I have created a new (more graphical) survey, to give a vote to your favorite logo: https://surveymonkey.com/s/Q7HV9GZ Remember this is not an authoritative poll and intends to help the design team to make a choice on what we have at present. This is important because: 1- we cannot trust 100% the survey tools; and 2- we have decided to not select things by majority voting, but by a specialized workgroup. Greetings, Emiliano. Thanks for setting this up. Is there a URL where we can see the results in real time? golinux ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng