Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey

2015-03-05 Thread Martijn Dekkers
 these sketches by xiep are sweet, but I wouldn't like to follow up on
 the monkey metaphore.


Also, Ximian already did the monkey thing...
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Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey

2015-03-05 Thread Ста Деюс
В Wed, 04 Mar 2015 21:13:43 +0100
x...@openmailbox.org пишет:

 I'm not a professional artist, but maybe it's the only thing that I
 can collaborate. Please, find attach a link with two images with
 sketches for your consideration. There are a logo idea and some
 marketing cartoons (similar to openbsd artwork
 http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html ).
 
 
 http://imageshack.com/a/img673/3843/ysTXTQ.jpg
 http://imageshack.com/a/img901/9656/hRoqIm.jpg
 
 Salud!
 
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHC9HE7vazI

Pardon me but to me it looks like folling w/ Devuan!
Like the guilty of capturing Debian, laugh over us!

Sthu.
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Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey

2015-03-05 Thread Jaromil
On Thu, 05 Mar 2015, Ста Деюс wrote:

 В Wed, 04 Mar 2015 21:13:43 +0100
 x...@openmailbox.org пишет:
 
  I'm not a professional artist, but maybe it's the only thing that I
  can collaborate. Please, find attach a link with two images with
  sketches for your consideration. There are a logo idea and some
  marketing cartoons (similar to openbsd artwork
  http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html ).
  
  
  http://imageshack.com/a/img673/3843/ysTXTQ.jpg
  http://imageshack.com/a/img901/9656/hRoqIm.jpg
  
  Salud!
  
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHC9HE7vazI
 
 Pardon me but to me it looks like folling w/ Devuan!
 Like the guilty of capturing Debian, laugh over us!


I guess it refers to this tweet bullying us some time ago with the usual
arrogance of systemd hooligans
https://twitter.com/_Vrunk/status/555994819852787712

these sketches by xiep are sweet, but I wouldn't like to follow up on
the monkey metaphore.

ciao


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Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey

2015-03-04 Thread xiep

Hey,

I've always loved the mascots for the logos (Tux and others). Someone on 
twitter compared us with monkeys for wanting to fork Debian. The answer 
of Jaromil inspired me this character that send you today. I'm late , I 
know, I know.


I'm not a professional artist, but maybe it's the only thing that I can 
collaborate. Please, find attach a link with two images with sketches 
for your consideration. There are a logo idea and some marketing 
cartoons (similar to openbsd artwork http://www.openbsd.org/lyrics.html 
).



http://imageshack.com/a/img673/3843/ysTXTQ.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img901/9656/hRoqIm.jpg

Salud!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHC9HE7vazI

Xiep



On 2015-02-26 16:05, Anto wrote:

On 26/02/15 15:50, hellekin wrote:

The logo threads are multiplying: it shows the impatience is growing.
What I'd like to see instead is a focus on a real issue we have, which
is shipping desktop background designs.  This is not a unique item, so
people can have the distro shipped with the background they'd like to
use.  Isn't that more interesting?


Yes. That would be interesting. But we would need a logo on the
background, wouldn't we? Or are we going to use what ever backgrounds
that are currently available in Debian with Debian logo?

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Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey

2015-03-04 Thread hellekin
On 03/04/15 17:13, x...@openmailbox.org wrote:
 
 I'm not a professional artist, but

*** You're quite talented :)

The monkey looks a bit aggressive, I don't think it needs to be.  If you
have more sketches, I'd love to see them.

Cheers,

==
hk

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Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey

2015-02-26 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:22:28PM +, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
 On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Jaromil jaro...@dyne.org wrote:
  Is likely not going to be the most interesting thing in Devuan, but
  anyway I wish we tag this process soon with some black and white
  minimalist design to be used,
 
 Prior to recent (at least in Debian) releases, Xorg came with the
 classic checkered monochrome pattern, i'm cool with that :)

No.  The checkered monochrome background flickered horribly on some monitors.
Bad default.

 (Now it comes with a black background which is really moronic 'cos it
 leaves me wondering Did --configure barf or is this the root
 window?).

Different colour would clear that up.

-- hendrik
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Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey

2015-02-26 Thread Linuxito
Of course. Should I make that link public on this list?

Thanks.

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 8:21 PM, Go Linux goli...@yahoo.com wrote:

 On Wed, 2/25/15, Linuxito ad...@linuxito.com wrote:

  Subject: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey
  To: dng@lists.dyne.org
  Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2015, 10:10 AM
 
  Hi people,
 
  As you may know, we have been collecting logo proposals for
  Devuan in the Without Systemd Wiki:
 
  http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Logo
 
  Now I have created a new (more graphical) survey, to give a
  vote to your favorite logo:
 
  https://surveymonkey.com/s/Q7HV9GZ
 
  Remember this is not an authoritative poll and intends to
  help the design team to make a choice on what we have at
  present.
 
  This is important because: 1- we cannot trust 100% the
  survey tools; and 2- we have decided to not select things by
  majority voting, but by a specialized workgroup.
 
  Greetings,
  Emiliano.


 

 Thanks for setting this up.  Is there a URL where we can see the results
 in real time?

 golinux


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Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey

2015-02-26 Thread Jaromil
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Linuxito wrote:

Of course. Should I make that link public on this list?

perhaps not, just mail the pass to golinux

waters are calmer, but trolls and vandalism is still behind the corner,
we cannot be too lax on our infrastructure. by the time the systemd
hooligans will realize that Devuan is a serious project that will
deliver, we'll have to face some fights I guess...

First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then
you win. Mahatma Gandhi

and as of today they are still laughing..


ciao



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Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey

2015-02-26 Thread Linuxito
Thanks Jaromil,

We outpassed the 100 responses limit in the survey (122 actually) and sadly
surveymonkey will only show you that 100 (unless you pay).

I'm going to send the link to golinux.

Have a great day.

Emiliano.

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 7:58 AM, Jaromil jaro...@dyne.org wrote:

 On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Linuxito wrote:

 Of course. Should I make that link public on this list?

 perhaps not, just mail the pass to golinux

 waters are calmer, but trolls and vandalism is still behind the corner,
 we cannot be too lax on our infrastructure. by the time the systemd
 hooligans will realize that Devuan is a serious project that will
 deliver, we'll have to face some fights I guess...

 First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then
 you win. Mahatma Gandhi

 and as of today they are still laughing..


 ciao




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Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey

2015-02-26 Thread Jaromil
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Linuxito wrote:

Thanks Jaromil,
 
We outpassed the 100 responses limit in the survey (122 actually)
and sadly surveymonkey will only show you that 100 (unless you
pay).

we do have funds to pay that in case the design workgroup deems it as a
useful way to collect feedback.

ciao



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Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey

2015-02-26 Thread Martijn Dekkers
If this is something we are going to be doing more often, I can deploy
https://opinahq.com/ or https://www.limesurvey.org/en/ (or whatever else
people prefer)

On 26 February 2015 at 13:54, Jaromil jaro...@dyne.org wrote:

 On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Linuxito wrote:

 Thanks Jaromil,
 
 We outpassed the 100 responses limit in the survey (122 actually)
 and sadly surveymonkey will only show you that 100 (unless you
 pay).

 we do have funds to pay that in case the design workgroup deems it as a
 useful way to collect feedback.

 ciao



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Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey

2015-02-26 Thread Linuxito
I tried limesurvey once, works great. That would be great.

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 9:14 AM, Martijn Dekkers 
devuan-li...@dekkers.org.uk wrote:

 If this is something we are going to be doing more often, I can deploy
 https://opinahq.com/ or https://www.limesurvey.org/en/ (or whatever else
 people prefer)

 On 26 February 2015 at 13:54, Jaromil jaro...@dyne.org wrote:

 On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Linuxito wrote:

 Thanks Jaromil,
 
 We outpassed the 100 responses limit in the survey (122 actually)
 and sadly surveymonkey will only show you that 100 (unless you
 pay).

 we do have funds to pay that in case the design workgroup deems it as a
 useful way to collect feedback.

 ciao



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Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey

2015-02-26 Thread Nuno Magalhães
 On 02/26/15 10:24, Linuxito wrote:
 The logo threads are multiplying: it shows the impatience is growing.

I disagree. IMHO the logo threads show a lot of users like to chip in
with their opinions. No harm there, and no impatience either. I
believe rushed things tend to hit fans. Therefore, i'd rather wait
longer and have a decent, stable(ish) alpha rather than having a cool
looking breakage-prone thing tomorrow. I vote for Release when ready.™

 What I'd like to see instead is a focus on a real issue we have, which
 is shipping desktop background designs.  This is not a unique item, so
 people can have the distro shipped with the background they'd like to
 use.  Isn't that more interesting?

Nope. *To me*, it's neither a real issue nor is it interesting and
along the same lines i don't give a rat's ass about the logo either
(although i obviously do have aesthetic preferences and picked a logo
from the poll). Since alpha's gonna ship with a minimalist DE, i'd go
with a gradient/solid color background and focus developer time in
real issues like removing systemd dependencies. I'd even be cool with
no GUI in the alpha release, but i grok and support how a minimalist
DE is a good compromise.

On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Jaromil jaro...@dyne.org wrote:
 Is likely not going to be the most interesting thing in Devuan, but
 anyway I wish we tag this process soon with some black and white
 minimalist design to be used,

Prior to recent (at least in Debian) releases, Xorg came with the
classic checkered monochrome pattern, i'm cool with that :)
(Now it comes with a black background which is really moronic 'cos it
leaves me wondering Did --configure barf or is this the root
window?).

My personal 2¢
Cheers,
Nuno
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Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey

2015-02-26 Thread Jaromil
On Thu, 26 Feb 2015, Hendrik Boom wrote:

  Prior to recent (at least in Debian) releases, Xorg came with the
  classic checkered monochrome pattern, i'm cool with that :)
 
 No.  The checkered monochrome background flickered horribly on some
 monitors.  Bad default.

AFAIK it was there exactly for that, so that one could tune the
frequency and check the distortion of the monitor. That was back in the
times in which we used to configure XF86Config by hand and sometimes
having ad-hoc modelines for non-standard monitors.

ciao


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Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey

2015-02-26 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 10:22:28PM +, Nuno Magalh??es wrote:
 Prior to recent (at least in Debian) releases, Xorg came with the
 classic checkered monochrome pattern, i'm cool with that :)
 (Now it comes with a black background which is really moronic 'cos it
 leaves me wondering Did --configure barf or is this the root
 window?).

I like the root weave too.
If you want it back, use Xorg -retro or xsetroot -def.

HTH,
Isaac Dunham
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Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey

2015-02-25 Thread Anto

Hello Emiliano,

I like the Stylized Galaxy logo (the 2 blue boomerangs forming a flipped 
S letter). But there is no corresponding logo with text/font (on the 
next page). It would look strange if the main logo and the logo with 
text/font do not match.


Kind regards,

Anto

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Re: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey

2015-02-25 Thread Go Linux
On Wed, 2/25/15, Linuxito ad...@linuxito.com wrote:

 Subject: [Dng] Devuan Logo survey
 To: dng@lists.dyne.org
 Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2015, 10:10 AM

 Hi people,
 
 As you may know, we have been collecting logo proposals for
 Devuan in the Without Systemd Wiki:
 
 http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Category:Logo
 
 Now I have created a new (more graphical) survey, to give a
 vote to your favorite logo:

 https://surveymonkey.com/s/Q7HV9GZ

 Remember this is not an authoritative poll and intends to
 help the design team to make a choice on what we have at
 present.
 
 This is important because: 1- we cannot trust 100% the
 survey tools; and 2- we have decided to not select things by
 majority voting, but by a specialized workgroup.
 
 Greetings,
 Emiliano.

 


Thanks for setting this up.  Is there a URL where we can see the results in 
real time?  

golinux
 
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