Re: [Dng] GDM switched to wayland by default
On Monday, 23 de February de 2015 16:26:03 Steve Litt escribió: > On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 11:06:03 -0500 > > Jude Nelson wrote: > > Not according to their documentation: > > * the weston launcher program (weston-launch) needs extra privileges > > to issue the KMS ioctl()s. It can do so via systemd, or you can make > > weston-launch setuid root. > > Thank you Jude. That is *such* a relief. I already setuid root my X > executable so slitt can run it. > > > * weston can use systemd to find the directory in which to put its > > control socket, or you can set the environment variable > > $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR in your shell before running it. > > I love environment variables. This is one of the most stupid ones on history. er Envite -- A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? OpenPGP key: 1586 50C8 7DBF B050 DE62 EA12 70B4 00F3 EEC7 C372 Spiral galaxies always have at least TWO arms. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] GDM switched to wayland by default
Like I said before, Alien Bob has built KDE 5.2 on Slackware-current. What I hadn't mentioned is that it includes wayland. I don't know the technical points or how much it is dependent on systemd, or how much *-systemd-* has infected Slackware. I do however know that Slackware-current is still systemd free. -Original Message- From: "Dima Krasner" [d...@dimakrasner.com] Date: 02/22/2015 11:48 AM To: dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: Re: [Dng] GDM switched to wayland by default On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:43:37 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > Isn't Wayland so systemd encumbered that somebody's going to need to > write an alternative? I think Wayland is going to be the main issue in Jessie++, because it was implemented with a systemd dependency right from the start. We can't just rebuild it with legacy ConsoleKit support. -- Dima Krasner, dimakrasner.com ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] GDM switched to wayland by default
On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 10:43:37 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > Isn't Wayland so systemd encumbered that somebody's going to need to > write an alternative? I think Wayland is going to be the main issue in Jessie++, because it was implemented with a systemd dependency right from the start. We can't just rebuild it with legacy ConsoleKit support. -- Dima Krasner, dimakrasner.com pgplAp8hYpa_K.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] GDM switched to wayland by default
Not according to their documentation: * the weston launcher program (weston-launch) needs extra privileges to issue the KMS ioctl()s. It can do so via systemd, or you can make weston-launch setuid root. * weston can use systemd to find the directory in which to put its control socket, or you can set the environment variable $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR in your shell before running it. Source: http://wayland.freedesktop.org/building.html I still need to figure out whether or not it needs runtime linkage against systemd infrastructure, however. Fortunately, the Wayland developers standardized the wayland protocol separately from the implementation, so at worst we can fork weston or write our own compositor if systemd integration becomes too troublesome to work around. -Jude On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 10:43 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 06:22:03 -0600 > hal wrote: > > > Jaromil wrote on 02/22/15 04:28: > > > At the very least, we may want to make sure that people is still > > > free to choose between wayland and X11, but hopefully this will be > > > also something that Debian wants. > > > > > > > > > > https://git.gnome.org/browse/gdm/commit/?id=ab90bd38c5cf2236c3527cf7ef6b9f383218a9e5 > > > > > > > At first I thought this was Gnome doing something stupid. Then I > > realized it was just Redhat hard at work Poetterizing something. > > Isn't Wayland so systemd encumbered that somebody's going to need to > write an alternative? > > SteveT > > Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ > Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance > > ___ > Dng mailing list > Dng@lists.dyne.org > https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] GDM switched to wayland by default
On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 06:22:03 -0600 hal wrote: > Jaromil wrote on 02/22/15 04:28: > > At the very least, we may want to make sure that people is still > > free to choose between wayland and X11, but hopefully this will be > > also something that Debian wants. > > > > > > https://git.gnome.org/browse/gdm/commit/?id=ab90bd38c5cf2236c3527cf7ef6b9f383218a9e5 > > > > At first I thought this was Gnome doing something stupid. Then I > realized it was just Redhat hard at work Poetterizing something. Isn't Wayland so systemd encumbered that somebody's going to need to write an alternative? SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
Re: [Dng] GDM switched to wayland by default
Jaromil wrote on 02/22/15 04:28: > At the very least, we may want to make sure that people is still free to > choose > between wayland and X11, but hopefully this will be also something that Debian > wants. > > > https://git.gnome.org/browse/gdm/commit/?id=ab90bd38c5cf2236c3527cf7ef6b9f383218a9e5 > At first I thought this was Gnome doing something stupid. Then I realized it was just Redhat hard at work Poetterizing something. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng
