Re: [DNSOP] Ugly DNS ack

2010-04-19 Thread Edward Lewis

At 12:28 -0400 4/19/10, Jason Livingood wrote:

This thread seems to have died out.  But I will note that it appears to be
on the agenda at the upcoming ISOC IPv6 workshop (from 16:30 - 18:00 - see
https://www.isoc.org/isoc/conferences/registration/index.php?id=7ce20e4c88b7
e328).  It is also addressed in a short whitepaper some colleagues and I put
together in advance of that meeting (available at
http://www.comcast6.net/IPv6_DNS_Whitelisting_Concerns_20100416.pdf)


After reading the white paper I can think of a lot of things to say, 
but not much related to DNS operations.  What comes to mind is 
something that could make use of this proposal:

   http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-vandergaast-edns-client-ip-00

That is not a savior here, I don't propose it to be.  What I wanted 
to point out is that while that proposal is talking about conveying 
addressing information in support of tailoring answers, the white 
paper is talking about the design of the tailoring.


In some cases, responses can be tailored according to a simple design 
- "all addresses in North America get these servers, in Europe those 
servers, in Asia those servers, and so on.  But the problem with IPv6 
connectivity testing is that the granularity (needed for tailoring) 
is not very consistent.


It depends on whether the matter is that an entire /LIR's with of 
addresses can't be reached from the provider or just those clients 
using 6to4 or just a particular client behind a cable modem still 
running from June 1942.


I used to think the problem was "how to get around discontinuous IPv6 
routing when I have a local "global" address."  Now it seems like 
it's a problem of scattered and varied (to use the same ill-defined 
word) "brokenness" sprinkled all over the place.  What's this got to 
do with DNS operations?  I can't see...how the DNS can really be of 
help in this matter.

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Re: [DNSOP] Ugly DNS ack

2010-04-19 Thread Jason Livingood
This thread seems to have died out.  But I will note that it appears to be
on the agenda at the upcoming ISOC IPv6 workshop (from 16:30 - 18:00 - see
https://www.isoc.org/isoc/conferences/registration/index.php?id=7ce20e4c88b7
e328).  It is also addressed in a short whitepaper some colleagues and I put
together in advance of that meeting (available at
http://www.comcast6.net/IPv6_DNS_Whitelisting_Concerns_20100416.pdf)

Jason

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