Re: [DNSOP] Possible slower response with minimization
Warren Kumari war...@kumari.net wrote: Outside this list how common are hierarchies more than 4 levels deep in practice? Surprisingly enough, not an insignificant number -- but this is mitigated by what the queries are (see below) Large organizations in countries with special-purpose 2LDs easily get quite long, e.g. www.pubs.sp.phy.cam.ac.uk, and that involves only four zones so it's a good example of a situation where qname minimization would do badly. Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finch d...@dotat.at http://dotat.at/ Trafalgar: Cyclonic in northwest, otherwise mainly northerly or northwesterly 5 or 6. Slight or moderate. Showers in northwest. Good. ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
[DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet
Dear DNSOP WG, This draft documents the specification, use, and cautions regarding the client-subnet EDNS option. Please consider adoption of this draft as a WG work item. As some of you will remember, this is a successor to a draft that was considered in DNSEXT some time ago and eventually expired without formal action. Since then, the option codepoint has been granted under the appropriate registry policy (expert review) and the option is in significant operational use. The topic has come up more than once on the WG mailing list, with some vigorous discussion, so a couple of the original authors and a couple of new people have revived the draft in the interests of documenting the option, including specific behavior and cautions in its use. The draft is available here: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet/ Please review to see if you think this document is suitable for adoption by DNSOP and comment to the list. Please state your view, your reasons, and (if you're in favor of adoption) whether you are willing to contribute text, review, etc. This call for adoption ends Tuesday 11-Nov.-2014, end of the day wherever you happen to be. This is the same day as our WG meeting at IETF 91. Thanks, Suzanne Woolf DNSOP co-chair ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet
On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 11:50 AM, Suzanne Woolf suzworldw...@gmail.com wrote: Dear DNSOP WG, This draft documents the specification, use, and cautions regarding the client-subnet EDNS option. Please consider adoption of this draft as a WG work item. As some of you will remember, this is a successor to a draft that was considered in DNSEXT some time ago and eventually expired without formal action. Since then, the option codepoint has been granted under the appropriate registry policy (expert review) and the option is in significant operational use. The topic has come up more than once on the WG mailing list, with some vigorous discussion, so a couple of the original authors and a couple of new people have revived the draft in the interests of documenting the option, including specific behavior and cautions in its use. The draft is available here: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet/ We actually have some updates that unfortunately didn't *quite* make it in before the cutoff[0]. The updated version / version in the edit buffer is at: https://github.com/wkumari/draft-vandergaast-edns-client-subnet The changes are minor, so review the http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet/ version, but if you mention typos / etc we might say Thanks! Already fixed in edit buffer :-) W [0]: Yes, making it in before the cut-off or not making it in before the cut-off is a binary, but, well Please review to see if you think this document is suitable for adoption by DNSOP and comment to the list. Please state your view, your reasons, and (if you're in favor of adoption) whether you are willing to contribute text, review, etc. This call for adoption ends Tuesday 11-Nov.-2014, end of the day wherever you happen to be. This is the same day as our WG meeting at IETF 91. Thanks, Suzanne Woolf DNSOP co-chair ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet
no hat I support the adoption of this document in the WG even if it gets significantly changed during the WG discussion. I will review it as it progresses. --Paul Hoffman ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet
suzworldwide The draft is available here: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet/ suzworldwide Please review to see if you think this document is suzworldwide suitable for adoption by DNSOP and comment to the list. I support this draft as a working group item and am willing to review the draft. ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet
Warren Kumari: We actually have some updates that unfortunately didn't *quite* make it in before the cutoff[0]. [0]: Yes, making it in before the cut-off or not making it in before the cut-off is a binary, but, well Please feel free to hurl suitably non-lethal objects at me. It was all my fault. The updated version / version in the edit buffer is at: https://github.com/wkumari/draft-vandergaast-edns-client-subnet The changes are minor, so review the http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet/ version, but if you mention typos / etc we might say Thanks! Already fixed in edit buffer :-) I just synced some more changes, primarily of the typo / grammatical consistency variety, and am done for now. ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014, Suzanne Woolf wrote: This draft documents the specification, use, and cautions regarding the client-subnet EDNS option. Please consider adoption of this draft as a WG work item. I have a recollection we already did this call? Because I said I reluctantly agreed to adopt the document before. Anyway, yes I support adopting the work. Paul ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
Re: [DNSOP] call for adoption: draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet
I support adoption because operators are using this spec. I plan to review and also to encourage a few others who have reviews to contribute. On 28 October 2014 08:50, Suzanne Woolf suzworldw...@gmail.com wrote: Dear DNSOP WG, This draft documents the specification, use, and cautions regarding the client-subnet EDNS option. Please consider adoption of this draft as a WG work item. As some of you will remember, this is a successor to a draft that was considered in DNSEXT some time ago and eventually expired without formal action. Since then, the option codepoint has been granted under the appropriate registry policy (expert review) and the option is in significant operational use. The topic has come up more than once on the WG mailing list, with some vigorous discussion, so a couple of the original authors and a couple of new people have revived the draft in the interests of documenting the option, including specific behavior and cautions in its use. The draft is available here: http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-vandergaast-dnsop-edns-client-subnet/ Please review to see if you think this document is suitable for adoption by DNSOP and comment to the list. Please state your view, your reasons, and (if you're in favor of adoption) whether you are willing to contribute text, review, etc. This call for adoption ends Tuesday 11-Nov.-2014, end of the day wherever you happen to be. This is the same day as our WG meeting at IETF 91. Thanks, Suzanne Woolf DNSOP co-chair ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
