Re: [DNSOP] Éric Vyncke's Yes on draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-23: (with COMMENT)
On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 4:04 AM, Éric Vyncke wrote: > Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for > draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-23: Yes > > When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all > email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this > introductory paragraph, however.) > > Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/ > handling-ballot-positions/ for more information about how to handle > DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. > > The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld/ > > -- > COMMENT: > -- > > Thanks to the authors and the DNSOP working group, and of course to > Suzanne for a detailed shepherd's write-up. > > Important document to bring some clarity for some use cases. > > Just two minor comments: > > 1/ I support Paul Wouters' issue with the name "pseudo-TLD", it is both > too late and a bike-shedding exercice... "ghost-TLD" or "filler-TLD" or > "dummy-TLD" would have been better > We had chosen pseudo-TLD because it acts like a TLD, and quacks like a TLD, but it isn't actually a TLD because, well, it isn't a Top Level *Domain* — it's more like a Top Level Reservation. If we'd done this all again, perhaps we would have selected a different term, but at this point it's been 9 years, 2 months and 16 days, and changing it now would indeed be too late… > 2/ in section 2, s/because .alt, by definition, is not a DNS name./because > .alt, by this specification, is not a DNS name./ ? > Thank you, I've made that change in the editors copy… W > > Regards > > -éric > ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
Re: [DNSOP] Éric Vyncke's Yes on draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-23: (with COMMENT)
On Mon, Apr 24, 2023 at 04:04, Éric Vyncke via Datatracker wrote: > 1/ I support Paul Wouters' issue with the name "pseudo-TLD", it is both too > late and a bike-shedding exercice... "ghost-TLD" or "filler-TLD" or > "dummy-TLD" > would have been better This is a part of the namespace specifically carved out for dragons of species both known and not yet imagined. It's not DNS-specific. If we consider this purely a part of the namespace and try really hard to scrub all the familiar DNS and DNS registry baggage from our minds when we think of it, there is no difference between ALT and COM or ALT and ARPA. So I don't know why TLD needs to be qualified with "pseudo" or "ghost" or "filler" or "dummy" or anything else. ALT as defined in this document is a TLD. In fact, I think suggesting that it is not simply adds unnecessary ambigutiy. I don't think this is a reason to hold up the document. I think this ought to be an uncontentious clarification to the document that could be made even at this late stage of its lifecycle but I'm not naive enough to think that is the case :-) Joe >___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
[DNSOP] Éric Vyncke's Yes on draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-23: (with COMMENT)
Éric Vyncke has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-23: Yes When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ for more information about how to handle DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld/ -- COMMENT: -- Thanks to the authors and the DNSOP working group, and of course to Suzanne for a detailed shepherd's write-up. Important document to bring some clarity for some use cases. Just two minor comments: 1/ I support Paul Wouters' issue with the name "pseudo-TLD", it is both too late and a bike-shedding exercice... "ghost-TLD" or "filler-TLD" or "dummy-TLD" would have been better 2/ in section 2, s/because .alt, by definition, is not a DNS name./because .alt, by this specification, is not a DNS name./ ? Regards -éric ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
