Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for "DNS Terminology" (draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis)
Dear WG, authors, Summarising the feedback on the mailing list and follow-up steps for the authors. The feedback of Sara has been incorporated in draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis-06. The feedback of Peter consists of two items: 1) clarification zone origin to parent zone origin (in the section https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis-05.html#section-7-2.36) 2) definition of degree of kinship in context of the term "unrelated name server". Feedback 1) can be easily incorporated in the document. For feedback 2), the chairs agree that the term "unrelated" is a general/everyday language word and not very specific. We tried to come up with a better, more specific word, also with help from others, but we and the WG could not come up with a better term. While the degree of kinship is more specific and helps us define the term "unrelated", we feel it adds some complexity to the glue definition and is otherwise not used/relevant in the document. Therefore, we suggest that the authors stick to the use of the term "unrelated name server". See for context the following email thread, https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/dnsop/PBr7-ZMVYiqEzFalOFAQaMnPpFs/. The document is now in WG consensus and waiting for write up state. Best regards, -- Benno On 10/03/2023 18:21, Benno Overeinder wrote: Dear WG, Thank you for your feedback, also from Peter Thomassen in another email thread about the glue definition. Herewith I close the WGLC. Best, -- Benno On 20/02/2023 15:37, Sara Dickinson wrote: Hi, LGTM. I’ve opened a small PR to just update the DoQ references now there is an RFC: https://github.com/ietf-wg-dnsop/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis/pull/12 Regards Sara. On 17 Feb 2023, at 15:51, Benno Overeinder wrote: Dear DNSOP WG, Following the latest consultation with the Working Group on bailiwick and in-domain/sibling name servers terminology, the authors and chairs believe this document has reached the stage of being ready for Working Group Last Call. Due to normative reference to draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional (because that draft explains what to do with the definitions in this draft), both drafts will go to WGLC together. (WGLC for glue-is-not-optional will be issued early next week.) This starts a Working Group Last Call for: draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis. Current versions of the draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis/. The Current Intended Status of this document is: Best Current Practice. Please review the draft and offer relevant comments. If this does not seem appropriate please speak out. If someone feels the document is *not* ready for publication, please speak out with your reasons. Supporting statements that the document is ready are also welcome. This starts a two week Working Group Last Call process, and ends on: March 3rd 2023 Thanks, -- Benno ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for "DNS Terminology" (draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis)
Dear WG, Thank you for your feedback, also from Peter Thomassen in another email thread about the glue definition. Herewith I close the WGLC. Best, -- Benno On 20/02/2023 15:37, Sara Dickinson wrote: Hi, LGTM. I’ve opened a small PR to just update the DoQ references now there is an RFC: https://github.com/ietf-wg-dnsop/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis/pull/12 Regards Sara. On 17 Feb 2023, at 15:51, Benno Overeinder wrote: Dear DNSOP WG, Following the latest consultation with the Working Group on bailiwick and in-domain/sibling name servers terminology, the authors and chairs believe this document has reached the stage of being ready for Working Group Last Call. Due to normative reference to draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional (because that draft explains what to do with the definitions in this draft), both drafts will go to WGLC together. (WGLC for glue-is-not-optional will be issued early next week.) This starts a Working Group Last Call for: draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis. Current versions of the draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis/. The Current Intended Status of this document is: Best Current Practice. Please review the draft and offer relevant comments. If this does not seem appropriate please speak out. If someone feels the document is *not* ready for publication, please speak out with your reasons. Supporting statements that the document is ready are also welcome. This starts a two week Working Group Last Call process, and ends on: March 3rd 2023 Thanks, -- Benno ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for "DNS Terminology" (draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis)
Hi, LGTM. I’ve opened a small PR to just update the DoQ references now there is an RFC: https://github.com/ietf-wg-dnsop/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis/pull/12 Regards Sara. > On 17 Feb 2023, at 15:51, Benno Overeinder wrote: > > Dear DNSOP WG, > > Following the latest consultation with the Working Group on bailiwick and > in-domain/sibling name servers terminology, the authors and chairs believe > this document has reached the stage of being ready for Working Group Last > Call. > > Due to normative reference to draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional (because > that draft explains what to do with the definitions in this draft), both > drafts will go to WGLC together. (WGLC for glue-is-not-optional will be > issued early next week.) > > > This starts a Working Group Last Call for: draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis. > > Current versions of the draft is available here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis/. > > The Current Intended Status of this document is: Best Current Practice. > > Please review the draft and offer relevant comments. > If this does not seem appropriate please speak out. > If someone feels the document is *not* ready for publication, please speak > out with your reasons. > Supporting statements that the document is ready are also welcome. > > > This starts a two week Working Group Last Call process, and ends on: March > 3rd 2023 > > Thanks, > > -- Benno > > ___ > DNSOP mailing list > DNSOP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for "DNS Terminology" (draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis)
(speaking without a hat) I think this includes some good updates around the definition of Glue, and not because we've spent many hours wordsmithing this. I would like to see some folks who have commented about the definitions in the past, review these changes. Thanks the authors for their patience tim On Fri, Feb 17, 2023 at 10:51 AM Benno Overeinder wrote: > Dear DNSOP WG, > > Following the latest consultation with the Working Group on bailiwick > and in-domain/sibling name servers terminology, the authors and chairs > believe this document has reached the stage of being ready for Working > Group Last Call. > > Due to normative reference to draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional > (because that draft explains what to do with the definitions in this > draft), both drafts will go to WGLC together. (WGLC for > glue-is-not-optional will be issued early next week.) > > > This starts a Working Group Last Call for: draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis. > > Current versions of the draft is available here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis/. > > The Current Intended Status of this document is: Best Current Practice. > > Please review the draft and offer relevant comments. > If this does not seem appropriate please speak out. > If someone feels the document is *not* ready for publication, please > speak out with your reasons. > Supporting statements that the document is ready are also welcome. > > > This starts a two week Working Group Last Call process, and ends on: > March 3rd 2023 > > Thanks, > > -- Benno > ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
[DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for "DNS Terminology" (draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis)
Dear DNSOP WG, Following the latest consultation with the Working Group on bailiwick and in-domain/sibling name servers terminology, the authors and chairs believe this document has reached the stage of being ready for Working Group Last Call. Due to normative reference to draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional (because that draft explains what to do with the definitions in this draft), both drafts will go to WGLC together. (WGLC for glue-is-not-optional will be issued early next week.) This starts a Working Group Last Call for: draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis. Current versions of the draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis/. The Current Intended Status of this document is: Best Current Practice. Please review the draft and offer relevant comments. If this does not seem appropriate please speak out. If someone feels the document is *not* ready for publication, please speak out with your reasons. Supporting statements that the document is ready are also welcome. This starts a two week Working Group Last Call process, and ends on: March 3rd 2023 Thanks, -- Benno ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop
