RE: Is it time to shut down this effort?

2016-07-23 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC dev@ (really, this time)]

> -Original Message-
> From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 10:28
> To: doc@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Is it time to shut down this effort?
> 
> Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> > [BCC dev@]
> >
> > Please be specific about what you mean by "this effort."
> >
> > The current documentation approach is to develop materials on the
> MediaWiki.  This wiki is typical in that it operates like an open-source
> project with commit then review (although there is a nice "Discuss"
> feature).
> >
> > If you mean the particular approach to reviewing and approving pages
> and having a kind of editor-in-chief, please say so.
> >
> >  - Dennis
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net]
> >> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 20:36
> >> To: doc@openoffice.apache.org
> >> Subject: Is it time to shut down this effort?
> >>
> >> My answer to the question posed in the tittle of this e-mail
> >> unfortunately is yes. We have been moving by fits and starts for
> almost
> >> 4 years and have very little to show for it. I would like to hear the
> >> opinions of others though.
> >>
> >> Keith
> >>
> Dennis;
> 
> This mailing list came into existence to coordinate the development of
> documentation for Version 4 under the Apache License. There never was
> and was never intended to be an editor-in-chief. For a lot of reasons
> this particular effort has produced a very limited amount of usable
> documentation.
> 
> My personal feeling is that it should be recognized that it is not doing
> what it was intended to and either retired or reconstituted in a
> different form.
> 
> I think that my personal position is pretty obvious from my original
> message and I wanted to solicit comment from other participants.
[orcmid] 

I am still unclear on what it means to "shut down this effort."  

Close the doc@ list?

What action do you have in mind that would result in a shut down?

Also, perhaps a broader request for assistance in documentation is called for.  
This might go with the adjustments just made to the download page.  And there 
are lists (and the Community Forum) where power users might be encouraged to 
contribute to documentation on the wiki.

The nice thing about the documentation is that there is always room for 
additions and improvements. Whatever there is at the moment is what there is.  
Positive effort is not wasted.

> 
> Regards
> Keith



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Re: Is it time to shut down this effort?

2016-07-23 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
> [BCC dev@]
> 
> Please be specific about what you mean by "this effort."
> 
> The current documentation approach is to develop materials on the MediaWiki.  
> This wiki is typical in that it operates like an open-source project with 
> commit then review (although there is a nice "Discuss" feature).
> 
> If you mean the particular approach to reviewing and approving pages and 
> having a kind of editor-in-chief, please say so.
> 
>  - Dennis
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net]
>> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 20:36
>> To: doc@openoffice.apache.org
>> Subject: Is it time to shut down this effort?
>>
>> My answer to the question posed in the tittle of this e-mail
>> unfortunately is yes. We have been moving by fits and starts for almost
>> 4 years and have very little to show for it. I would like to hear the
>> opinions of others though.
>>
>> Keith
>>
Dennis;

This mailing list came into existence to coordinate the development of
documentation for Version 4 under the Apache License. There never was
and was never intended to be an editor-in-chief. For a lot of reasons
this particular effort has produced a very limited amount of usable
documentation.

My personal feeling is that it should be recognized that it is not doing
what it was intended to and either retired or reconstituted in a
different form.

I think that my personal position is pretty obvious from my original
message and I wanted to solicit comment from other participants.

Regards
Keith



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RE: Is it time to shut down this effort?

2016-07-23 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
[BCC dev@]

Please be specific about what you mean by "this effort."

The current documentation approach is to develop materials on the MediaWiki.  
This wiki is typical in that it operates like an open-source project with 
commit then review (although there is a nice "Discuss" feature).

If you mean the particular approach to reviewing and approving pages and having 
a kind of editor-in-chief, please say so.

 - Dennis

> -Original Message-
> From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net]
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 20:36
> To: doc@openoffice.apache.org
> Subject: Is it time to shut down this effort?
> 
> My answer to the question posed in the tittle of this e-mail
> unfortunately is yes. We have been moving by fits and starts for almost
> 4 years and have very little to show for it. I would like to hear the
> opinions of others though.
> 
> Keith
> 



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