Re: Thoughts for moving forward
Thanks everybody for your input.I agree that that the 4.2.0 schedule is so nebulous that it makes sense to forge ahead with the 4.1.x documentation.I will start splitting my time with getting the Getting Started one files published to the wiki and starting the review of the Writer and Calk guides. If we can all start Doing issues and assigning ourselves to them in the project so that we know who is doing what and then closing the issue when the work is completed it will go a long way towards knowing where we are at any point in time. Francis for know just post on the list what you are working on and either Digro or I will assign you to the issue. Again, thank you all for ypur ideas and the hard work that you have doneto move us closer to having Sold documentation for the users. Regards Keith Dick Groskamp wrote: Op 8-6-2022 om 16:43 schreef Matthias Seidel: Hi, Am 08.06.22 um 16:41 schrieb F Campos Costero: On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 5:22 PM Keith N. McKenna wrote: Dennis Hamilton wrote: Here's my recommendation. 1. Do not wait for 4.2. Use the available energy and volunteer power to advance the Guides for 4.1. 2. Do not ever tie yourself to a speculative schedule not under your control. Not ever. 3. When 4.2 ships or is ready for/in beta, ship a supplement. There are not supposed to be breaking changes. Probably will though. Just make a quick supplement that can be used in the interim before new 4.2 documents are available. The supplement will also earn feedback for things that people notice that are not covered or need to be covered better, and that will lead to supplement updates and also improved 4.2 documents. Regards, - Dennis Thanks for your recommendation Dennis. It was an approach I hadn't thought of. I am hoping that I will from the other members of the team as well so that we can come to consensus on the path. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org I agree with Dennis that we should not wait for 4.2. I doubt that the changes between 4.1.x and 4.2 will cause anything like the number of revisions needed to update the existing guides Fortunately that's not fact... to match the current release and the schedule for 4.2 cannot even be guessed. Let's just plow ahead. But that's true. Don't wait for 4.2.0. ;-) Regards, Matthias Regards, Francis Already started first round of review for Impress and Draw. So, I agree not to wait for 4.2.0 but trying to fullfill 4.1.x on built on from there - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Thoughts for moving forward
Op 8-6-2022 om 16:43 schreef Matthias Seidel: Hi, Am 08.06.22 um 16:41 schrieb F Campos Costero: On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 5:22 PM Keith N. McKenna wrote: Dennis Hamilton wrote: Here's my recommendation. 1. Do not wait for 4.2. Use the available energy and volunteer power to advance the Guides for 4.1. 2. Do not ever tie yourself to a speculative schedule not under your control. Not ever. 3. When 4.2 ships or is ready for/in beta, ship a supplement. There are not supposed to be breaking changes. Probably will though. Just make a quick supplement that can be used in the interim before new 4.2 documents are available. The supplement will also earn feedback for things that people notice that are not covered or need to be covered better, and that will lead to supplement updates and also improved 4.2 documents. Regards, - Dennis Thanks for your recommendation Dennis. It was an approach I hadn't thought of. I am hoping that I will from the other members of the team as well so that we can come to consensus on the path. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org I agree with Dennis that we should not wait for 4.2. I doubt that the changes between 4.1.x and 4.2 will cause anything like the number of revisions needed to update the existing guides Fortunately that's not fact... to match the current release and the schedule for 4.2 cannot even be guessed. Let's just plow ahead. But that's true. Don't wait for 4.2.0. ;-) Regards, Matthias Regards, Francis Already started first round of review for Impress and Draw. So, I agree not to wait for 4.2.0 but trying to fullfill 4.1.x on built on from there -- DiGro ___ Apache OpenOffice 4.1.12 (Dutch) and scanned with Ziggo Safe Online (F-Secure) - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Re: Thoughts for moving forward
Hi, Am 08.06.22 um 16:41 schrieb F Campos Costero: > On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 5:22 PM Keith N. McKenna > wrote: > >> Dennis Hamilton wrote: >>> Here's my recommendation. >>> >>> 1. Do not wait for 4.2. Use the available energy and volunteer >> power to advance the Guides for 4.1. >>> 2. Do not ever tie yourself to a speculative schedule not under your >> control. Not ever. >>> 3. When 4.2 ships or is ready for/in beta, ship a supplement. There are >> not supposed to be breaking changes. Probably will though. Just make a >> quick supplement that can be used in the interim before new 4.2 documents >> are available. The supplement will also earn feedback for things that >> people notice that are not covered or need to be covered better, and that >> will lead to supplement updates and also improved 4.2 documents. >>> Regards, >>> >>> - Dennis >>> >> Thanks for your recommendation Dennis. It was an approach I hadn't >> thought of. I am hoping that I will from the other members of the team >> as well so that we can come to consensus on the path. >> >> Regards >> Keith >> >> - >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org > > I agree with Dennis that we should not wait for 4.2. I doubt that the > changes between 4.1.x and 4.2 will cause anything like the number of > revisions needed to update the existing guides Fortunately that's not fact... > to match the current release > and the schedule for 4.2 cannot even be guessed. Let's just plow ahead. But that's true. Don't wait for 4.2.0. ;-) Regards, Matthias > Regards, > Francis > smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: Thoughts for moving forward
On Tue, Jun 7, 2022 at 5:22 PM Keith N. McKenna wrote: > Dennis Hamilton wrote: > > Here's my recommendation. > > > > 1. Do not wait for 4.2. Use the available energy and volunteer > power to advance the Guides for 4.1. > > > > 2. Do not ever tie yourself to a speculative schedule not under your > control. Not ever. > > > > 3. When 4.2 ships or is ready for/in beta, ship a supplement. There are > not supposed to be breaking changes. Probably will though. Just make a > quick supplement that can be used in the interim before new 4.2 documents > are available. The supplement will also earn feedback for things that > people notice that are not covered or need to be covered better, and that > will lead to supplement updates and also improved 4.2 documents. > > > > Regards, > > > > - Dennis > > > Thanks for your recommendation Dennis. It was an approach I hadn't > thought of. I am hoping that I will from the other members of the team > as well so that we can come to consensus on the path. > > Regards > Keith > > - > To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org I agree with Dennis that we should not wait for 4.2. I doubt that the changes between 4.1.x and 4.2 will cause anything like the number of revisions needed to update the existing guides to match the current release and the schedule for 4.2 cannot even be guessed. Let's just plow ahead. Regards, Francis
Re: Thoughts for moving forward
Dennis Hamilton wrote: Here's my recommendation. 1. Do not wait for 4.2. Use the available energy and volunteer power to advance the Guides for 4.1. 2. Do not ever tie yourself to a speculative schedule not under your control. Not ever. 3. When 4.2 ships or is ready for/in beta, ship a supplement. There are not supposed to be breaking changes. Probably will though. Just make a quick supplement that can be used in the interim before new 4.2 documents are available. The supplement will also earn feedback for things that people notice that are not covered or need to be covered better, and that will lead to supplement updates and also improved 4.2 documents. Regards, - Dennis Thanks for your recommendation Dennis. It was an approach I hadn't thought of. I am hoping that I will from the other members of the team as well so that we can come to consensus on the path. Regards Keith -Original Message- From: Keith N. McKenna Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 12:25 To: doc@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Thoughts for moving forward With the Getting Started Guide done, and the Writer and Calc Guides ready for review; it is time to consider how we want to move ahead. I see 2 paths forward. Each has advantages and disadvantages that should be discussed 1) continue working on the rest of the Guides for 4.1 Advantage is it gets a full set of up to date guides available Disadvantage is it cuts down time for preparing the changes for 4.2 2) Get the Writer and Calc Guides finished and start working on the guides for 4.2. Advantage is it gives the Team more time to prepare the changes for 4.2, which could be extensive Disadvantage is that the road-map for a 4.2 release is still very fluid with no clear end in sight. Please respond with your thoughts on the best way forward. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
RE: Thoughts for moving forward
Here's my recommendation. 1. Do not wait for 4.2. Use the available energy and volunteer power to advance the Guides for 4.1. 2. Do not ever tie yourself to a speculative schedule not under your control. Not ever. 3. When 4.2 ships or is ready for/in beta, ship a supplement. There are not supposed to be breaking changes. Probably will though. Just make a quick supplement that can be used in the interim before new 4.2 documents are available. The supplement will also earn feedback for things that people notice that are not covered or need to be covered better, and that will lead to supplement updates and also improved 4.2 documents. Regards, - Dennis -Original Message- From: Keith N. McKenna Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 12:25 To: doc@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Thoughts for moving forward With the Getting Started Guide done, and the Writer and Calc Guides ready for review; it is time to consider how we want to move ahead. I see 2 paths forward. Each has advantages and disadvantages that should be discussed 1) continue working on the rest of the Guides for 4.1 Advantage is it gets a full set of up to date guides available Disadvantage is it cuts down time for preparing the changes for 4.2 2) Get the Writer and Calc Guides finished and start working on the guides for 4.2. Advantage is it gives the Team more time to prepare the changes for 4.2, which could be extensive Disadvantage is that the road-map for a 4.2 release is still very fluid with no clear end in sight. Please respond with your thoughts on the best way forward. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
Thoughts for moving forward
With the Getting Started Guide done, and the Writer and Calc Guides ready for review; it is time to consider how we want to move ahead. I see 2 paths forward. Each has advantages and disadvantages that should be discussed 1) continue working on the rest of the Guides for 4.1 Advantage is it gets a full set of up to date guides available Disadvantage is it cuts down time for preparing the changes for 4.2 2) Get the Writer and Calc Guides finished and start working on the guides for 4.2. Advantage is it gives the Team more time to prepare the changes for 4.2, which could be extensive Disadvantage is that the road-map for a 4.2 release is still very fluid with no clear end in sight. Please respond with your thoughts on the best way forward. Regards Keith - To unsubscribe, e-mail: doc-unsubscr...@openoffice.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: doc-h...@openoffice.apache.org
