Fwd: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Announce: DocBook XSL Stylesheets V1.51.1

2002-06-12 Thread wjoyce

>To: Alex Lancaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From: Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 12:07:22 -0400
>>/ Alex Lancaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
>| There's a problem with the generated docs in both the distribution and
>| the website: they are not in sync with current docsrc.  In particular
>| the recent changes to the section on XSLT processors (in
>| "docsrc/publishing.xml") are not included.  I've filed this under the
>| "Documentation Request" tracker at SourceForge (not sure if this is
>| the appropriate tracker or not):
>
>Thanks, Alex. I fixed the documentation online, and I've fixed the
>Makefile so this won't happen again. If no one reports any other
>errors in the next couple of days, I'll go ahead and make a 1.51.2
>release.
>
>Be seeing you,
>  norm
>
>-- 
>Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  | Any sufficiently advanced
>http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | technology is indistinguishable
>Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | from a rigged demo.
>




Fwd: DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: Announce: DocBook XSL Stylesheets V1.51.1

2002-06-12 Thread wjoyce

>To: Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>From: Alex Lancaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Mon, 03 Jun 2002 06:44:06 -0700
>>> "NW" == Norman Walsh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>NW> Sigh. There's a small glitch in common/en.xml in 1.51.0. So I'm
>NW> releasing 1.51.1. Hey, at least it gave me an opportunity to try
>NW> out the new three part numbering system, right?
>
>Hi Norm,
>
>Sorry to report that you might need to to use the three part numbering
>system again... ;-)
>
>There's a problem with the generated docs in both the distribution and
>the website: they are not in sync with current docsrc.  In particular
>the recent changes to the section on XSLT processors (in
>"docsrc/publishing.xml") are not included.  I've filed this under the
>"Documentation Request" tracker at SourceForge (not sure if this is
>the appropriate tracker or not):
>
>http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=563870&group_id=21935&atid=381743

>
>Alex
>-- 
>Alex Lancaster * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * SourceForge Developer
>




Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: change header in glossary xsl fo

2002-06-12 Thread zope-mailinglist

Bob Stayton wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 12:02:19AM +0200, zope-mailinglist wrote:
> 
>>hello
>>
>>i think i understood something wrong, hm
>>i try to customize the header in my glossary, because for some reason, 
>>the title of the last chapter of my book is in there ?!
>>seems to be a bug i think, normally the title of the glossary should 
>>appear in the header of a glossary, right?
>>
>>for testing it i put this in my custom.xsl:
>>
>>
>>hello the running head
>>
>>
>>but this has no effect on the pdf output
> 
> 
> That's not surprising since the running.head.mode 
> outputs the proper  tags around the text to
> get it to appear in the running head.
> 
> The running.head.mode outputs only chapter or appendix
> information in the current 1.51.1 fo stylesheets.  If your
> glossary is a separate element following your last chapter
> (not inside the chapter), then it should have no running head at all.
> If it does, then that's a fo processor bug.
> 
> If your glossary element is inside your last chapter
> element, then that explains why the running head is for the
> last chapter.
> 
> Assuming you put your glossary as a sibling element
> after your last chapter, you still want the running head to show.
> It looks like adding the glossary to the list of
> elements with a running head is not that simple.
> You'd have to copy the entire template
> 
> from pagesetup.xsl to your customization file and then
> change the match to "glossary", or perhaps to
> "chaper|appendix|glossary" if you plan further
> customizations of all the running heads.
> The reason the template is so long is that it outputs
> the  elements and handles
> the left/right/center alignment based on the
> master page type.
> 
> Or you could file an RFE on the DocBook SourceForge site
> to request that change for the next distribution.  8^)
> 


thanks for the fast response

 > If your glossary element is inside your last chapter
 > element, then that explains why the running head is for the
 > last chapter.

i also thought that this is the case, but it's a sibling

do you have any suggestions about whats the best docbook xml to pdf 
method? either on  win32 or unix


i'm nearly finished with writing my thesis and can't get a proper pdf output

i tried fop before, but there are other issues, regarding vector images
fop seems to be unable to handle advanced svg drawings created with 
illustrator

cheers



Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: change header in glossary xsl fo

2002-06-12 Thread Bob Stayton

On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 12:02:19AM +0200, zope-mailinglist wrote:
> hello
> 
> i think i understood something wrong, hm
> i try to customize the header in my glossary, because for some reason, 
> the title of the last chapter of my book is in there ?!
> seems to be a bug i think, normally the title of the glossary should 
> appear in the header of a glossary, right?
> 
> for testing it i put this in my custom.xsl:
> 
> 
> hello the running head
> 
> 
> but this has no effect on the pdf output

That's not surprising since the running.head.mode 
outputs the proper  tags around the text to
get it to appear in the running head.

The running.head.mode outputs only chapter or appendix
information in the current 1.51.1 fo stylesheets.  If your
glossary is a separate element following your last chapter
(not inside the chapter), then it should have no running head at all.
If it does, then that's a fo processor bug.

If your glossary element is inside your last chapter
element, then that explains why the running head is for the
last chapter.

Assuming you put your glossary as a sibling element
after your last chapter, you still want the running head to show.
It looks like adding the glossary to the list of
elements with a running head is not that simple.
You'd have to copy the entire template

from pagesetup.xsl to your customization file and then
change the match to "glossary", or perhaps to
"chaper|appendix|glossary" if you plan further
customizations of all the running heads.
The reason the template is so long is that it outputs
the  elements and handles
the left/right/center alignment based on the
master page type.

Or you could file an RFE on the DocBook SourceForge site
to request that change for the next distribution.  8^)

-- 

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Publications Architect  Santa Cruz, CA  95060
Technical Publications  voice: (831) 427-7796
Caldera International, Inc. fax:   (831) 429-1887
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



DOCBOOK-APPS: change header in glossary xsl fo

2002-06-12 Thread zope-mailinglist

hello

i think i understood something wrong, hm
i try to customize the header in my glossary, because for some reason, 
the title of the last chapter of my book is in there ?!
seems to be a bug i think, normally the title of the glossary should 
appear in the header of a glossary, right?

for testing it i put this in my custom.xsl:


hello the running head


but this has no effect on the pdf output

thanks in advance, bernd



Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: xsl fop and glossary format in pdf trouble

2002-06-12 Thread zope-mailinglist

Bob Stayton wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2002 at 05:21:20PM +0200, zope-mailinglist wrote:
> 
>>hello all
>>
>>i'm using the xsl stylesheets to create a pdf file using fop
>>everything in the latest version
>>
>>i have a problem with my glossary
>>due to the fact, that e have relatively long terms, the term is written 
>>over the definition in pdf, where the glossary is in table format.
>>
>>questions:
>>1. is there a variable to get my glossary in block format like for 
>>variablelist through:
>>
>>
>>2. is there a possibility to make the term wrap in its table cell, this 
>>would be the best.
> 
> 
> Well, a glossary isn't in a table.
> The current fo stylesheet puts a glossary in a
> fo:list-block, glossentries in a
> fo:list-item, the glossterm in a fo:list-item-label
> and the glossdef in a fo:list-item-body.
> So the fo output is already doing the equivalent of
> the variablelist.  The label just isn't being handled
> properly by FOP when it is longer than its designated
> width.
> 


thanks for your response

there are so many small issues with fop, that i have switched to 
passivetex for pdf generation

cheers



Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Increase default number of pagesequence masters/RFE

2002-06-12 Thread Dave Pawson

At 12:58 12/06/2002 +0200, Jens Stavnstrup wrote:

>I would therefore suggest, that the pagesetup.xsl define an additional
>pagesequence master used specificly for these "pre document" elements,
>and then only use the titlepage1 for the actual titlepage.

 From what I've heard on this list, peoples 'pre document' needs
are so specific, that its difficult to generalise,
hence the 'do it yourself' approach, which is good,
and eventually meets most needs  Just that there
is a little learning in between.

regards DaveP





Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: passivetex reading xslt fo file?

2002-06-12 Thread Bob Stayton

On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 02:35:31PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a test "book" written in docbook-xml and use xsltproc to
> generate HTML from that book. Works fine.
> 
> Now I would like to make a PDF file from the docbook, while avoiding
> jade and any java code. So I settled on passivetex, which was a bitch
> to install. I am running Debian unstable, which has tetex as its tex
> distribution. Since writing documents is not my main job, I'd like to
> stick with the TeX that comes with our distribution instead of using
> TeXlive as it is usually recommended.
> 
> My passivetex can now convert the teiu5.fo to a correct pdf file, so
> at least I did this right.
> 
> Now to convert my own test docbook.
> 
> $ xsltproc -o firstdocbook.fo 
>/usr/share/sgml/docbook/stylesheet/xsl/nwalsh/fo/docbook.xsl firstdocbook.xml
> Making portrait pages on USletter paper (8.5inx11in)
> $ ls -al firstdocbook*
> -rw-rw-r--1 haberhaber 13k Jun 12 12:11 firstdocbook.fo
> -rw-rw-r--1 haberhaber1.3k Jun 11 16:52 firstdocbook.xml
> $ pdflatex "&pdfxmltex" firstdocbook.fo
> This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00a-pretest-2004-ojmw (Web2C 7.3.7)
> (./firstdocbook.fo{/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}
> LaTeX2e <2001/06/01>
> Babel  and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, n 
>ohyphenation, loaded.
> xmltex version: 2000/09/07 v1.8y (Exp):
> (/usr/share/texmf/tex/xmltex/base/xmltex.cfg)
> No File: firstdocbook.cfg
>  xmlns:fo = 5
>  <5:root (/home/haber/.tetex/texmf/tex/latex/passivetex/fotex.xmt
> 
> URI: 6 = http://www.tug.org/fotex
>  xmlns:fotex = 6
>  xmlns:fo = 5
>  
> 
> [snip]
> 
>  <5:conditional-page-master-reference
>  0:master-name = "left2"
>  0:odd-or-even = "even"  >
> 
>  
> 
> 
>
>   
>   <5:page-sequence
>   0:id = "id2773334"
>   0:hyphenate = "true"
>   0:master-name = "titlepage1"
>   0:language = "en"  >
><5:flow
>0:flow-name = "xsl-region-body"  >
> ! Missing \endcsname inserted.
> 
>\Odd:
> l.85 
> 
> ?
> 
> The probably relevant part of the fo file reads:
> 
>   
> blank-or-not-blank="blank"/>
> odd-or-even="odd"/>
> odd-or-even="even"/>
>   
> 
>   
>   language="en">
> 
>   
> text-align="center" space-before="18.6624pt">
>   Simple 
>XML Sample Document
> 
> text-align="center" space-before="10.8pt" keep-with-next="always">John Doe
> 
> 
> Do I understand correctly that xsltproc wrote a fo file that
> passivetex can't read? Can this issue be fixed?

No, the fo file is ok, because the TexLive 7 version of
PassiveTeX can process the fo output from xsltproc.  The
problem is likely the TeX setup.  I have only had success
with PassiveTeX using TexLive.  It is theoretically
possible to add the PassiveTeX updates to an existing TeX
installation, but my attempts to do that so far lead to
failures with obscure errors like you have seen.

Enabling the DocBook XSL passivetex extensions won't help
here.  Currently the only passivetex extension has to
do with handling of dashes.
 
-- 

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Publications Architect  Santa Cruz, CA  95060
Technical Publications  voice: (831) 427-7796
Caldera International, Inc. fax:   (831) 429-1887
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Increase default number of pagesequence masters/RFE

2002-06-12 Thread Bob Stayton

On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 12:58:13PM +0200, Jens Stavnstrup wrote:
> 
> In a typical scenario, when using the book element as root to
> generate FO pages. Pagemaster sequences are typical selected by e.g. the
> named template pagesetup.xsl/select.doublesided.pagemaster, where one of
> two page-sequence-masters choices are returned either titlepage1 or
> twoside1.
> 
> The current design of division.xsl (rule template "book") uses titlepage1
> as the master-reference attribute when defining the current
> fo:page-sequence for both the "titlepage", the "preamble", and misc. table
> of contents.
> 
> The twoside1 pagesequence are used for the rest of the pages in the
> document.
> 
> 
> Allthough I could redefine book myself. I would think that most users have
> a different design for the titlepage (among other things header and
> footer) than for the rest of the pages which aso uses the titlepage
> pages-sequence, i.e. preamble, and toc.
> 
> 
> I would therefore suggest, that the pagesetup.xsl define an additional
> pagesequence master used specificly for these "pre document" elements,
> and then only use the titlepage1 for the actual titlepage.

This is a good idea.  Can you file an RFE at the
DocBook SourceForge site?  That's the best way
to get it into Norm's queue.

-- 

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Publications Architect  Santa Cruz, CA  95060
Technical Publications  voice: (831) 427-7796
Caldera International, Inc. fax:   (831) 429-1887
email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



DOCBOOK-APPS: Re: chunk.xsl and DOCTYPE

2002-06-12 Thread Norman Walsh

/ Michael Wiedmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say:
| Is there any reason why the solution for "Chunk.xsl produce no valid 
| xhtml nor doctype" as suggested in:
| http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-apps/200111/msg00343.html
| is not incorporated in the DocBook XSL stylesheets?

Just oversight on my part. I'll do it next.

Be seeing you,
  norm

-- 
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http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/ | absurd, futile, and transitory?
Chair, DocBook Technical Committee | They are so, and we are so, and
   | they and we go very well
   | together.--Santayana



Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: passivetex reading xslt fo file?

2002-06-12 Thread Togan Muftuoglu

* Marc Haber; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 12 Jun, 2002 wrote:
>> >Do I understand correctly that xsltproc wrote a fo file that
>> >passivetex can't read? Can this issue be fixed?
>> 
>> Have you enabled passivetex extensesion ? By default they are not on
>
>I did not specifically enable them. How do I do that? THe only file I
>have written myself is the XML input, and the XSL file is from the
>distribution.

Create a customization xsl stylesheet lile below. Have a look to
param.xsl for more parameters
-- 

Togan Muftuoglu



http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform"; 
version="1.0"
xmlns:fo="http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Format";>









   
  
 
   











DOCBOOK-APPS: alcovebook-sgml 0.1.2 released

2002-06-12 Thread Yann Dirson

I just released version 0.1.2 of AlcoveBook-SGML.  

Changes: This release has been updated to work with sgml2x 0.99.7, and
integrates a couple of packaging fixes.

Homepage: http://www.alcove-labs.org/en/software/alcovebook/
Download: http://freesoftware.fsf.org/download/alcovebook/
Savannah: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/alcovebook/


AlcoveBook is a strict subset of the DocBook DTD. The ultimate goal is
to provide a series of DTDs for enterprise use, commercial proposal,
whitepaper, etc. For now, this is one single SGML DTD. The stylesheets
are usable with both DocBook and AlcoveBook. They include a set of
extensions over Norman Walsh's modular docbook stylesheets
(docbook-dsssl), and a book-like layout for articles.

-- 
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Technical support managerResponsable de l'assistance technique
Senior Free-Software Consultant  Consultant senior en Logiciels Libres
Debian developer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])Développeur Debian





DOCBOOK-APPS: sgml2x 0.99.7 released

2002-06-12 Thread Yann Dirson

sgml2x 0.99.7 is out.  This is the second release-candidate for 1.0.0.

0.99.6 was only finding definitions in the old location; it now
ignores editor and package-management backups and other cruft in
style-definition dirs; fixes signal handling in the runjade wrapper,
removing the annoying message everyone complained about; and handles
conffile transition in the Debian package.

Homepage: http://www.alcove-labs.org/en/software/alcovebook/
Savannah: http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/alcovebook/
Download: http://savannah.gnu.org/download/alcovebook/


sgml2x allows to easily format a SGML or XML document using DSSSL
style-sheets, and provides the following features:

   - Multiple possible style-sheets per document class

   - Easy specification of style-sheets using aliases

   - Easy integration of new style-sheets by adding a simple new
   definition file in a configuration directory

   - The caller can specify a PATH-like list of configuration
   directories, defaulting to a system-wide, a per-user, and a
   per-project configuration directories

   - Automatic selection of a default style-sheet to be used, based on
   assigned priorities

   - Pass arbitrary options to jade(1)

The document-class used to look for the style-sheets, and the output
format, is for now only derived from the name with which the program
is called, so you will want to call this program through symbolic
links like docbook-2-pdf.

sgml2x is a implemented as a shell wrapper around jade(1) (or,
preferably, openjade(1), although we use the generic name jade
throughout this documentation), jadetex(1) and other tools.

-- 
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Technical support managerResponsable de l'assistance technique
Senior Free-Software Consultant  Consultant senior en Logiciels Libres
Debian developer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])Développeur Debian





Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: passivetex reading xslt fo file?

2002-06-12 Thread Marc Haber

On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 03:25:36PM +0200, Jens Emmerich wrote:
> for most purposes you shold be fine with the DSSSL way, i.e. one of:
> (XML source)->openjade->(jadetex)->pdfjadetex->(pdf)
> (XML source)->openjade->(rtf)->MS Word/Acrobat->(pdf)
> (XML source)->openjade->(mif)->FrameMaker/Acrobat->(pdf)
> I'd recommend the first one if this does fulfill your requirements. We use
> the rtf output frequently as it allows non-DocBookers to insert remarks etc.
> into the rtf for reviews.

I tried the openjade approach, but decided to ditch it because
openjade takes 13 seconds to process my one-page test document. If
documents reach decent sizes, this will probably be worse.

But it is good to know that there are now two ways available to
process the XML document: openjade->pdfjadetex, and xsltproc->htmldoc.

But I'd like still to see output from xsltproc->passivetex.

Greetings
Marc

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Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: passivetex reading xslt fo file?

2002-06-12 Thread Marc Haber

On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 02:53:00PM +0200, Michael Wiedmann wrote:
> Marc Haber wrote:
> ... 
> > Which toolchain is the recommended way for PDF creation from docbook
> > XML sources at this very moment?
> 
> For a working temporary solution - until the direct transformations from
> FO to PDF work better - you should give 'htmldoc' 
> (http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc/) a try which takes your HTML output and 
> creates PDF or PS output which is IMHO quite usable.

I don't really like that approach.

htmldoc's output looks like some web page printed from the browser
which does not surprise since it's essentially the same function in a
command line utility.

That alternative approach will be a nice workaround, but I'd
appreciate getting the "real" toolchain to work because I hope the
output will look better.

Greetings
Marc

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Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: passivetex reading xslt fo file?

2002-06-12 Thread Marc Haber

On Wed, Jun 12, 2002 at 03:52:19PM +0300, Togan Muftuoglu wrote:
> * Marc Haber; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 12 Jun, 2002 wrote:
> >Hi,
> >
> >Do I understand correctly that xsltproc wrote a fo file that
> >passivetex can't read? Can this issue be fixed?
> 
> Have you enabled passivetex extensesion ? By default they are not on

I did not specifically enable them. How do I do that? THe only file I
have written myself is the XML input, and the XSL file is from the
distribution.

Greetings
Marc

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RE: DOCBOOK-APPS: passivetex reading xslt fo file?

2002-06-12 Thread Jens Emmerich

Hi,

for most purposes you shold be fine with the DSSSL way, i.e. one of:
(XML source)->openjade->(jadetex)->pdfjadetex->(pdf)
(XML source)->openjade->(rtf)->MS Word/Acrobat->(pdf)
(XML source)->openjade->(mif)->FrameMaker/Acrobat->(pdf)
I'd recommend the first one if this does fulfill your requirements. We use
the rtf output frequently as it allows non-DocBookers to insert remarks etc.
into the rtf for reviews.

Other ways to consider:
(XML source)->sgmlnorm+some script->(SGML DocBook
3.1-Source)->FrameMaker6+SGML/Acrobat->(pdf) (tested)
(XML source)->FrameMaker7(+SGML)/Acrobat->(pdf) (untested)

It depends on your other evironment. For "legacy" resons we went with the
Frameaker6+SGML way for some time and hope for relief with FrameMaker7 which
has not yet arrived.

Jens

> -Original Message-
> From: Michael Wiedmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Mittwoch, 12. Juni 2002 14:53
> To: Marc Haber
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: passivetex reading xslt fo file?
> 
> 
> Marc Haber wrote:
> ... 
> > Which toolchain is the recommended way for PDF creation from docbook
> > XML sources at this very moment?
> 
> For a working temporary solution - until the direct 
> transformations from
> FO to PDF work better - you should give 'htmldoc' 
> (http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc/) a try which takes your HTML 
> output and 
> creates PDF or PS output which is IMHO quite usable.
> 
> Michael
> -- 
> office:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> private: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.miwie.org/
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 



Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: customized HTML-Layout of output files

2002-06-12 Thread js

Joachim,


Here is an outline of solution based on the following layout. Names in
drawing is frame target names.


||---|
|| head  |
||---|
||   |
| navbar |   |
||   chunkarea   |
||   |
||---|



Note the stylesheet utilises XSLT 1.1 elements (multiple document
output) (supported by Saxon in xsl:document)


Another thing you should be aware of, is that the navigation bar of your
chunked documents should properly be modified. Especially the reference
to the Home and/or Up link (Be carefull not to create recursive frames).





 

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  Creating volume 
framemaster page 

   
   

   
  
 
 
   

   
  Creating volume 
navigationbar page 

  

  
  

 Something here: e.g. links to chapters, appendixes.
 Note, that each link should point to rhe target chunkarea.


  
  
  






   
 
   
  
 


 
   
 
   
 


 
 


   
   
  

  
 
  
  

   
   
   
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Regards

Jens

-Original Message-
Hi Jens,

thanks for helping. I read the 'documentation how-to'. Unfortunately I
didn't find the answer to the following:

> What you basically need is to write a number html frames (top, left, 
> buttom html pages). The empty area could then be a chunked html 
> version of your document.

This is exactly what I want. But how do I get them together? Could you
help again?

Thanks.
Joachim


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Von: Jens Stavnstrup [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. Juni 2002 14:10
An: Joachim Liedtke
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: customized HTML-Layout of output files


Joachim,

First of all you don't wan't ever to modify Norms stylesheets, but rater
write you own customized stylesheet, which may modify some of the
default behaviour.

What you basically need is to write a number html frames (top, left,
buttom html pages). The empty area could then be a chunked html version
of your document.

You refered to the PHP net as an example of what you would like. Try
look at http://www.php.net/download-docs.php, which contains a
"Documentation howto link, which I assume answers all your questions.

Regards

Jens


On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Joachim Liedtke wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm porting our documentations to DocBook to generate HTML-files for 
> our intranet. So far I sorted out how to manipulate the output by 
> setting differnet values in the 'html/param.xsl' and how to chunk the 
> document
into
> many 'pieces' (thanks for the 'helping hand' from some listmembers).
> 
> Now I'm stuck, trying to get the generated output into our CI 
> according layout. I'm aware that this is probably a very simple 
> matter. But after going through the various .xsl-files, I'm completly 
> confused where to put the 'non DocBook-HTML' to make the output look 
> like the rest of our site.
> 
> So far I tried to manipulate the 'docbook.xsl' but it didn't work the 
> way
I
> expected it to.
> 
> What is a good and elegant way to get a manual similar to the PHP 
> manual ( http://www.php.net/manual/en/ ).
> 
> I Hope this question isn't too demanding, but I'm really stuck.
> 
> Thanks a lot
> Joachim
> 

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Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: passivetex reading xslt fo file?

2002-06-12 Thread Togan Muftuoglu

* Marc Haber; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 12 Jun, 2002 wrote:
>Hi,
>
>Do I understand correctly that xsltproc wrote a fo file that
>passivetex can't read? Can this issue be fixed?

Have you enabled passivetex extensesion ? By default they are not on

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Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: passivetex reading xslt fo file?

2002-06-12 Thread Michael Wiedmann

Marc Haber wrote:
... 
> Which toolchain is the recommended way for PDF creation from docbook
> XML sources at this very moment?

For a working temporary solution - until the direct transformations from
FO to PDF work better - you should give 'htmldoc' 
(http://www.easysw.com/htmldoc/) a try which takes your HTML output and 
creates PDF or PS output which is IMHO quite usable.

Michael
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DOCBOOK-APPS: passivetex reading xslt fo file?

2002-06-12 Thread Marc Haber

Hi,

I have a test "book" written in docbook-xml and use xsltproc to
generate HTML from that book. Works fine.

Now I would like to make a PDF file from the docbook, while avoiding
jade and any java code. So I settled on passivetex, which was a bitch
to install. I am running Debian unstable, which has tetex as its tex
distribution. Since writing documents is not my main job, I'd like to
stick with the TeX that comes with our distribution instead of using
TeXlive as it is usually recommended.

My passivetex can now convert the teiu5.fo to a correct pdf file, so
at least I did this right.

Now to convert my own test docbook.

$ xsltproc -o firstdocbook.fo 
/usr/share/sgml/docbook/stylesheet/xsl/nwalsh/fo/docbook.xsl firstdocbook.xml
Making portrait pages on USletter paper (8.5inx11in)
$ ls -al firstdocbook*
-rw-rw-r--1 haberhaber 13k Jun 12 12:11 firstdocbook.fo
-rw-rw-r--1 haberhaber1.3k Jun 11 16:52 firstdocbook.xml
$ pdflatex "&pdfxmltex" firstdocbook.fo
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00a-pretest-2004-ojmw (Web2C 7.3.7)
(./firstdocbook.fo{/usr/share/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}
LaTeX2e <2001/06/01>
Babel  and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german, ngerman, n 
ohyphenation, loaded.
xmltex version: 2000/09/07 v1.8y (Exp):
(/usr/share/texmf/tex/xmltex/base/xmltex.cfg)
No File: firstdocbook.cfg
 xmlns:fo = 5
 <5:root (/home/haber/.tetex/texmf/tex/latex/passivetex/fotex.xmt

URI: 6 = http://www.tug.org/fotex
 xmlns:fotex = 6
 xmlns:fo = 5
 

[snip]

 <5:conditional-page-master-reference
 0:master-name = "left2"
 0:odd-or-even = "even"  >

 


   
  
  <5:page-sequence
  0:id = "id2773334"
  0:hyphenate = "true"
  0:master-name = "titlepage1"
  0:language = "en"  >
   <5:flow
   0:flow-name = "xsl-region-body"  >
! Missing \endcsname inserted.

   \Odd:
l.85 

?

The probably relevant part of the fo file reads:

  



  

  
  

  

  Simple XML 
Sample Document

John Doe


Do I understand correctly that xsltproc wrote a fo file that
passivetex can't read? Can this issue be fixed?

I have read in the mailing list archive that the "old" DSSSL-Toolchain
is more mature. Does this still hold, and am I better off in using the
old toolchain? However, openjade takes 13 seconds to process my 1.4
Kbyte XML file to HTML, and even longer for the FO conversion.

Which toolchain is the recommended way for PDF creation from docbook
XML sources at this very moment?

Any hints will be appreciated.

Greetings
Marc

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DOCBOOK-APPS: chunk.xsl and DOCTYPE

2002-06-12 Thread Michael Wiedmann

Is there any reason why the solution for "Chunk.xsl produce no valid 
xhtml nor doctype" as suggested in:
http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook-apps/200111/msg00343.html
is not incorporated in the DocBook XSL stylesheets?

In general it works like suggested and could make it much easier to 
generate chunk HTML with a DOCTYPE declaration by just setting some 
variables in param.xsl.

Michael
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Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: customized HTML-Layout of output files

2002-06-12 Thread Jens Stavnstrup

Joachim,

First of all you don't wan't ever to modify Norms stylesheets, but rater
write you own customized stylesheet, which may modify some of the
default behaviour.

What you basically need is to write a number html frames (top, left,
buttom html pages). The empty area could then be a chunked html version of
your document.

You refered to the PHP net as an example of what you would like. Try look
at http://www.php.net/download-docs.php, which contains a "Documentation
howto link, which I assume answers all your questions.

Regards

Jens


On Wed, 12 Jun 2002, Joachim Liedtke wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm porting our documentations to DocBook to generate HTML-files for our
> intranet. So far I sorted out how to manipulate the output by setting
> differnet values in the 'html/param.xsl' and how to chunk the document into
> many 'pieces' (thanks for the 'helping hand' from some listmembers).
> 
> Now I'm stuck, trying to get the generated output into our CI according
> layout. I'm aware that this is probably a very simple matter. But after
> going through the various .xsl-files, I'm completly confused where to put
> the 'non DocBook-HTML' to make the output look like the rest of our site.
> 
> So far I tried to manipulate the 'docbook.xsl' but it didn't work the way I
> expected it to.
> 
> What is a good and elegant way to get a manual similar to the PHP manual (
> http://www.php.net/manual/en/ ).
> 
> I Hope this question isn't too demanding, but I'm really stuck.
> 
> Thanks a lot
> Joachim
> 




DOCBOOK-APPS: customized HTML-Layout of output files

2002-06-12 Thread Joachim Liedtke

Hi,

I'm porting our documentations to DocBook to generate HTML-files for our
intranet. So far I sorted out how to manipulate the output by setting
differnet values in the 'html/param.xsl' and how to chunk the document into
many 'pieces' (thanks for the 'helping hand' from some listmembers).

Now I'm stuck, trying to get the generated output into our CI according
layout. I'm aware that this is probably a very simple matter. But after
going through the various .xsl-files, I'm completly confused where to put
the 'non DocBook-HTML' to make the output look like the rest of our site.

So far I tried to manipulate the 'docbook.xsl' but it didn't work the way I
expected it to.

What is a good and elegant way to get a manual similar to the PHP manual (
http://www.php.net/manual/en/ ).

I Hope this question isn't too demanding, but I'm really stuck.

Thanks a lot
Joachim



DOCBOOK-APPS: Increase default number of pagesequence masters/RFE

2002-06-12 Thread Jens Stavnstrup


In a typical scenario, when using the book element as root to
generate FO pages. Pagemaster sequences are typical selected by e.g. the
named template pagesetup.xsl/select.doublesided.pagemaster, where one of
two page-sequence-masters choices are returned either titlepage1 or
twoside1.

The current design of division.xsl (rule template "book") uses titlepage1
as the master-reference attribute when defining the current
fo:page-sequence for both the "titlepage", the "preamble", and misc. table
of contents.

The twoside1 pagesequence are used for the rest of the pages in the
document.


Allthough I could redefine book myself. I would think that most users have
a different design for the titlepage (among other things header and
footer) than for the rest of the pages which aso uses the titlepage
pages-sequence, i.e. preamble, and toc.


I would therefore suggest, that the pagesetup.xsl define an additional
pagesequence master used specificly for these "pre document" elements,
and then only use the titlepage1 for the actual titlepage.


Regards

Jens