[docbook-apps] Release of DocBook 5.1 + XSL?

2014-08-13 Thread graeme
Hi there,
I know this is a cheeky request. Anyway, my organisation is using the
DocBook 5.1 betas in production, and we are keen to know if there is any
information regarding when the final release of the spec, and in
particular the XSL distribution which fully supports it, are likely to
be available.

Is there a known release timeframe?

We're using the assembly workflow to build documents so are hopeful that
at some point oXygen will be enhanced with an assembly manager so that
they're set up than at present. Assemblies work really well, but at
present we're building them manually.

Thanks,

Graeme

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Re: [docbook-apps] Release of DocBook 5.1 + XSL?

2014-08-13 Thread Jirka Kosek
On 13.8.2014 15:04, gra...@heliocentrik.net wrote:
 I know this is a cheeky request. Anyway, my organisation is using the
 DocBook 5.1 betas in production, and we are keen to know if there is any
 information regarding when the final release of the spec, and in
 particular the XSL distribution which fully supports it, are likely to
 be available.
 
 Is there a known release timeframe?

If there are no issues found in 5.1RC3 then plan is to make it OASIS
Committee Specification and then OASIS Standard soon. There are some
review periods required by OASIS process, but if everything goes well
5.1 could be Committee Specification during autumn. OASIS Standard is
just rubber-stamping process, so no changes will be made into
specification and this procedural delay shouldn't have impact on
delaying implementations.

XSL stylesheets are separate story. If you find some bug or missing
feature in assembly support please fill it into tracker so
implementation can be fixed.

Jirka

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[docbook-apps] Minimum TOC depth?

2014-08-13 Thread Ken Morse
Has anyone figured out a way to have a *minimum* TOC depth? With HTML
output, I'll sometimes see a page that has a single TOC that simply points
to the first section -- in that case, it would be really nice to just skip
the TOC.

(On a related note, with chunk.first.sections turned off, even when there
are multiple items in the TOC, the first item will often be a link to
something that's already visible on the page, which is sometimes not all
that useful).

Thanks,
Ken


Re: [docbook-apps] Minimum TOC depth?

2014-08-13 Thread Bob Stayton

Hi Ken,
To clarify the terminology, you are describing here a minimum *length* 
of TOC.  The depth refers to the degree of nesting of sections.


There is no param that controls whether a TOC is omitted if its length 
is below some minumum, but I can see how it would be a good idea.


For HTML output, you could customize the template named 'make.toc' in 
html/autotoc.xsl.  Where it says:


  xsl:if test=$nodes

you could use something like:

  xsl:if test=count($nodes) gt; 1

But $nodes contains only the first level entries for that TOC, not any 
children of those nodes (which are handled by the 'subtoc' template). 
So if you have a single section but it contains many subsections and 
your TOC depth is two or more, then this test would skip the TOC when 
there was more than one entry in the TOC.  To be more precise, the 
template would have to count the entries in all levels of the TOC, which 
is a bit trickier.


Bob Stayton
Sagehill Enterprises
b...@sagehill.net

On 8/13/2014 9:12 AM, Ken Morse wrote:

Has anyone figured out a way to have a /minimum/ TOC depth? With HTML
output, I'll sometimes see a page that has a single TOC that simply
points to the first section -- in that case, it would be really nice to
just skip the TOC.

(On a related note, with chunk.first.sections turned off, even when
there are multiple items in the TOC, the first item will often be a link
to something that's already visible on the page, which is sometimes not
all that useful).

Thanks,
Ken


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