RE: [docbook-apps] suppressing everything but the content of body in xhtml output

2007-06-26 Thread Mauritz Jeanson
 -Original Message-
 From: Brett Leber 
 
 Your XSL works, but I get the following at the top of the file, which 
 I'd also like to suppress:
 
 ?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
 !DOCTYPE div PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN 
 http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;\
 
 How can I do that?


You can't do that using XSLT. The DOCTYPE declaration comes from
xsl:output in xhtml/docbook.xsl. There is no way of completely suppressing
it in a customization layer. You can do this:

 xsl:output omit-xml-declaration=yes doctype-public=
doctype-system=/

But that will still leave

 !DOCTYPE div PUBLIC  

in the output. 

/MJ



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Re: [docbook-apps] suppressing everything but the content of body in xhtml output

2007-06-26 Thread Brett Leber

MJ,

Thanks very much.

Brett

On 6/26/2007 10:43 AM, Mauritz Jeanson wrote:

-Original Message-
From: Brett Leber 

Your XSL works, but I get the following at the top of the file, which 
I'd also like to suppress:


?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE div PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;\


How can I do that?



You can't do that using XSLT. The DOCTYPE declaration comes from
xsl:output in xhtml/docbook.xsl. There is no way of completely suppressing
it in a customization layer. You can do this:

 xsl:output omit-xml-declaration=yes doctype-public=
doctype-system=/

But that will still leave

 !DOCTYPE div PUBLIC  

in the output. 


/MJ




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Re: [docbook-apps] suppressing everything but the content of body in xhtml output

2007-06-26 Thread Bob Stayton
One small correction.  You can't do it with a customization layer, because 
of the way xsl:output elements are combined.  I had some correspondence 
with Michael Kay about Saxon's behavior, and he says that once you have the 
doctypes declared, there is no way to completely undeclare them in a 
customization layer.  But you can edit the original xhtml/docbook.xsl file 
to remove the doctype attributes from the xsl:output there.  Ugly, and a 
maintenance headache, but it is possible.


The xsl:output element's attributes in XSLT 1.0 must always be literals. 
You can't use parameter values to set them, so they can't be made 
conditional.  XSLT 2.0 adds named output declarations that can be 
conditional.


Bob Stayton
Sagehill Enterprises
DocBook Consulting
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To: 'Brett Leber' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Bob Stayton' 
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Subject: RE: [docbook-apps] suppressing everything but the content of 
body in xhtml output




-Original Message-
From: Brett Leber

Your XSL works, but I get the following at the top of the file, which
I'd also like to suppress:

?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE div PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;\

How can I do that?



You can't do that using XSLT. The DOCTYPE declaration comes from
xsl:output in xhtml/docbook.xsl. There is no way of completely 
suppressing

it in a customization layer. You can do this:

xsl:output omit-xml-declaration=yes doctype-public=
doctype-system=/

But that will still leave

!DOCTYPE div PUBLIC  

in the output.

/MJ








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Re: [docbook-apps] suppressing everything but the content of body in xhtml output

2007-06-18 Thread Brett Leber

Bob,

Thanks for the reply. I would say it's commonly done, but that is only 
my suspicion based on what I've seen on the Web.


Naked HTML makes sense, although it doesn't convey that the output is 
an HTML fragment. (Plus some identify naked HTML as HTML with no CSS.) 
I like the explicit content-of-body or body-only, or the Tidy 
parameter show-body-only.


Your XSL works, but I get the following at the top of the file, which 
I'd also like to suppress:


?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
!DOCTYPE div PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN 
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;\


How can I do that?

Thanks!

Brett

On 6/15/2007 5:47 PM, Bob Stayton wrote:

Hi,
It's possible with customization.  If it is commonly
done, it could be incorporated as a feature.  Got a
name for this?  Naked HTML?

You will need to customize the template that generates the
HTML wrapper elements. If you are using the nonchunking
stylesheet, you want to customize the template with
mode=process.root in html/docbook.xsl. If you are
using the chunking stylesheet, you need customize the template
named chunk-element-content in html/chunk-common.xsl.

In both cases, you want to eliminate all those parts of the
template that output the HTML elements you do not want.
If you want to eliminate just the HEAD, then remove the
literal head and /head tags and their content. If you
want completely bare content, then remove the html,
head, and body tags, as well as the template calls
that fill the head element and generate the header
and footer. There will not be much left. For example,
process.root could end up looking like the following:

xsl:template match=* mode=process.root
 xsl:call-template name=root.messages/
 xsl:apply-templates select=./
/xsl:template

Bob Stayton
Sagehill Enterprises
DocBook Consulting
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message - From: Brett Leber [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] suppressing everything but the content of 
body in xhtml output



I'm a little bit disappointed that there weren't any more responses to 
this question (besides Dick's very useful suggestion).


Do most people publishing DocBook in (X)HTML use the output as the 
entire page page on the server? I would think the opposite, that most 
people would *include* the docbook output in the templating system of 
a site.


Tidy is one way forward. But can't we do a little better by outputting 
only the useful content (the content of the body element, most likely) 
for inclusion in a page?


Thanks,

Brett

On 6/12/2007 3:24 PM, Dick Hamilton wrote:

Brett,

I needed to do the same thing, but I cheated and used tidy
with the following configuration file:

show-body-only: yes
output-xhtml: yes

You can also merge divs and clean up other artifacts
pretty easily.

I'm sure there's a way to do this in the transform, but if
you need a quick fix, tidy works pretty well.  If you're not
familiar with tidy, check out tidy.sourceforge.net.

Dick Hamilton


-Original Message-
From: Brett Leber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 
12, 2007 1:05 PM

To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [docbook-apps] suppressing everything but the content of 
body in xhtml output



Hello,

I'd like to output only the content of the xhtml document's body 
(ie, no html, head, or body tags). I found an old post that 
seemed to be what I needed, but the XSL customization didn't work 
for me (granted, it's 5 years old):


Subject: Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Removing html,head  body
 * From: Gisbert Amm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * To: Fredrik Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 10:21:26 +0200

  Currently the HTML head stuff is output by
  this template in html/docbook.xsl:
  
  xsl:template match=* mode=process.root
  
  If you only want to modify this for articles,
  you could add a template in mode process.root
  to your html customization layer:

  xsl:template match=article mode=process.root
   xsl:apply-templates select=./
  /xsl:template

  Then it will not output the headbody stuff, but
  it will process everything in the document
  as html.

I'm using the DocBook 5 stylesheets, and xhtml/docbook.xsl. Any hints?

thanks,

Brett

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Re: [docbook-apps] suppressing everything but the content of body in xhtml output

2007-06-18 Thread Brett Leber

Hendrik,

Not stupid at all :) I'm fairly new to XSL, and the thought hadn't
occurred to me.

Thanks,
Brett

On 6/15/2007 5:48 PM, Hendrik Bunke wrote:

This may be stupid, but why don't you just do another
transformation with one simple XSL-File (something like
xsl:copy-of select=/html/body/node() /?

hendrik bunke

--On Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:01, Brett Leber wrote:


I'm a little bit disappointed that there weren't any more responses to this
question (besides Dick's very useful suggestion).

Do most people publishing DocBook in (X)HTML use the output as the entire page
page on the server? I would think the opposite, that most people would
*include* the docbook output in the templating system of a site.

Tidy is one way forward. But can't we do a little better by outputting only
the useful content (the content of the body element, most likely) for
inclusion in a page?

Thanks,

Brett

On 6/12/2007 3:24 PM, Dick Hamilton wrote:

Brett,

I needed to do the same thing, but I cheated and used tidy
with the following configuration file:

show-body-only: yes
output-xhtml: yes

You can also merge divs and clean up other artifacts
pretty easily.

I'm sure there's a way to do this in the transform, but if
you need a quick fix, tidy works pretty well.  If you're not
familiar with tidy, check out tidy.sourceforge.net.

Dick Hamilton


-Original Message-
From: Brett Leber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007
1:05 PM
To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [docbook-apps] suppressing everything but the content of body
in xhtml output


Hello,

I'd like to output only the content of the xhtml document's body (ie, no
html, head, or body tags). I found an old post that seemed to be
what I needed, but the XSL customization didn't work for me (granted, it's
5 years old):

Subject: Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Removing html,head  body
 * From: Gisbert Amm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * To: Fredrik Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 10:21:26 +0200

  Currently the HTML head stuff is output by
  this template in html/docbook.xsl:
  
  xsl:template match=* mode=process.root
  
  If you only want to modify this for articles,
  you could add a template in mode process.root
  to your html customization layer:

  xsl:template match=article mode=process.root
   xsl:apply-templates select=./
  /xsl:template

  Then it will not output the headbody stuff, but
  it will process everything in the document
  as html.

I'm using the DocBook 5 stylesheets, and xhtml/docbook.xsl. Any hints?

thanks,

Brett

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Re: [docbook-apps] suppressing everything but the content of body in xhtml output

2007-06-15 Thread Bob Stayton

Hi,
It's possible with customization.  If it is commonly
done, it could be incorporated as a feature.  Got a
name for this?  Naked HTML?

You will need to customize the template that generates the
HTML wrapper elements. If you are using the nonchunking
stylesheet, you want to customize the template with
mode=process.root in html/docbook.xsl. If you are
using the chunking stylesheet, you need customize the template
named chunk-element-content in html/chunk-common.xsl.

In both cases, you want to eliminate all those parts of the
template that output the HTML elements you do not want.
If you want to eliminate just the HEAD, then remove the
literal head and /head tags and their content. If you
want completely bare content, then remove the html,
head, and body tags, as well as the template calls
that fill the head element and generate the header
and footer. There will not be much left. For example,
process.root could end up looking like the following:

xsl:template match=* mode=process.root
 xsl:call-template name=root.messages/
 xsl:apply-templates select=./
/xsl:template

Bob Stayton
Sagehill Enterprises
DocBook Consulting
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


- Original Message - 
From: Brett Leber [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [docbook-apps] suppressing everything but the content of 
body in xhtml output



I'm a little bit disappointed that there weren't any more responses to 
this question (besides Dick's very useful suggestion).


Do most people publishing DocBook in (X)HTML use the output as the entire 
page page on the server? I would think the opposite, that most people 
would *include* the docbook output in the templating system of a site.


Tidy is one way forward. But can't we do a little better by outputting 
only the useful content (the content of the body element, most likely) 
for inclusion in a page?


Thanks,

Brett

On 6/12/2007 3:24 PM, Dick Hamilton wrote:

Brett,

I needed to do the same thing, but I cheated and used tidy
with the following configuration file:

show-body-only: yes
output-xhtml: yes

You can also merge divs and clean up other artifacts
pretty easily.

I'm sure there's a way to do this in the transform, but if
you need a quick fix, tidy works pretty well.  If you're not
familiar with tidy, check out tidy.sourceforge.net.

Dick Hamilton


-Original Message-
From: Brett Leber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 
2007 1:05 PM

To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org
Subject: [docbook-apps] suppressing everything but the content of 
body in xhtml output



Hello,

I'd like to output only the content of the xhtml document's body (ie, 
no html, head, or body tags). I found an old post that seemed to 
be what I needed, but the XSL customization didn't work for me 
(granted, it's 5 years old):


Subject: Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Removing html,head  body
 * From: Gisbert Amm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * To: Fredrik Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 * Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 10:21:26 +0200

  Currently the HTML head stuff is output by
  this template in html/docbook.xsl:
  
  xsl:template match=* mode=process.root
  
  If you only want to modify this for articles,
  you could add a template in mode process.root
  to your html customization layer:

  xsl:template match=article mode=process.root
   xsl:apply-templates select=./
  /xsl:template

  Then it will not output the headbody stuff, but
  it will process everything in the document
  as html.

I'm using the DocBook 5 stylesheets, and xhtml/docbook.xsl. Any hints?

thanks,

Brett

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RE: [docbook-apps] suppressing everything but the content of body in xhtml output

2007-06-12 Thread Dick Hamilton
Brett,

I needed to do the same thing, but I cheated and used tidy
with the following configuration file:

show-body-only: yes
output-xhtml: yes

You can also merge divs and clean up other artifacts
pretty easily.

I'm sure there's a way to do this in the transform, but if
you need a quick fix, tidy works pretty well.  If you're not
familiar with tidy, check out tidy.sourceforge.net.

Dick Hamilton

 -Original Message-
 From: Brett Leber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 1:05 PM
 To: docbook-apps@lists.oasis-open.org
 Subject: [docbook-apps] suppressing everything but the 
 content of body in xhtml output
 
 
 Hello,
 
 I'd like to output only the content of the xhtml document's 
 body (ie, 
 no html, head, or body tags). I found an old post that 
 seemed to 
 be what I needed, but the XSL customization didn't work for 
 me (granted, 
 it's 5 years old):
 
 Subject: Re: DOCBOOK-APPS: Removing html,head  body
  * From: Gisbert Amm [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  * To: Fredrik Svensson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  * Date: Wed, 04 Sep 2002 10:21:26 +0200
 
   Currently the HTML head stuff is output by
   this template in html/docbook.xsl:
   
   xsl:template match=* mode=process.root
   
   If you only want to modify this for articles,
   you could add a template in mode process.root
   to your html customization layer:
 
   xsl:template match=article mode=process.root
xsl:apply-templates select=./
   /xsl:template
 
   Then it will not output the headbody stuff, but
   it will process everything in the document
   as html.
 
 I'm using the DocBook 5 stylesheets, and xhtml/docbook.xsl. Any hints?
 
 thanks,
 
 Brett
 
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