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There is a second mail adress, which is also not subscribed. In spite of this today I received 85 mails from your organisation. Incredible is'nt it? Please change it K. Stahl -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
[libreoffice-documentation] unsubscribe
can you explain to me, why I got 85 mails today from your organisation? It is incredible! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] unsubscribe
You chose to subscribe to a new organisation that is has fast-paced development as it's number 1 objective right now. These are exciting times and a chance to be a significant part of the future of a huge project. To try to unsubscribe from the documentation list please send an email to documentation+unsubscr...@documentfoundation.org However it sounds as though you may have signed up to and confirmed the subscription to a number of other mailing lists at TDF and they will need separate unsubscribe notices. I think they all follow the same format of address though. Thanks for joining and offering help with the project. If we had been a lot smaller and slower then we would have needed your input a lot more. Many thanks and regards from Tom Davies From: Kurt Stahl To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Mon, 17 January, 2011 8:46:31 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] unsubscribe can you explain to me, why I got 85 mails today from your organisation? It is incredible! -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Another grep - Drop-down
Hi :) Drop-down list is the usual form known out there but it is quite generic. People outside of LibreOffice do shorten it to "drop-down" fairly often but "drop-down list" is probably better for formal documentation, especially since it is already more widely used. "Selection list", "selection menu" & "combo box" tend to be slightly more specific and are trying to make it sound more posh and high-class. All these terms are less likely to be understood and "combo-box" is definitely tooo geeky for most people. However, they are legitimate as specific types of drop-downs so please lets not change them just to be consistent because that will probably detract from the perceived quality of our documentation. I will try to get back to the documentation i edited yesterday to make "drop-down"s into "drop-down list"s. Thanks for the feedback, thoughts and stats Many regards from Tom :) From: Barbara Duprey To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Sun, 16 January, 2011 19:31:15 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Another grep - Drop-down On 1/16/2011 12:05 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote: > Hi Barbara, > > On 16/01/2011 20:37, Barbara Duprey wrote: >> OK, which is used in the help -- drop-down, drop-down list, drop-down >> menu, ? > - drop-down alone is not used > - drop-down menu is used twice > - drop-down icon is used once > - drop-down list(s) is used several times. > > Kind regards > Sophie Thanks, Sophie! Hmm -- is there another term used instead? "Several" doesn't seem like enough to cover this, as often as such things are used. "Selection list" or "selection menu" maybe? Or "combo box" as it's called in the form control toolbar? A quick check showed that at least sometimes, there is no term used at all, just directions to "select the ..." without mentioning the control type. So maybe that should be preferred? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Another grep - Drop-down
Hi Tom, Barbara, *, 2011/1/17 Tom Davies > Hi :) > > Drop-down list is the usual form known out there but it is quite generic. > People outside of LibreOffice do shorten it to "drop-down" fairly often but > "drop-down list" is probably better for formal documentation, especially > since > it is already more widely used. > I agree with you. "Drop down list" is a well known term and should be used in the documentation. > "Selection list", "selection menu" & "combo box" tend to be slightly more > specific and are trying to make it sound more posh and high-class. All > these > terms are less likely to be understood and "combo-box" is definitely tooo > geeky > for most people. However, they are legitimate as specific types of > drop-downs > so please lets not change them just to be consistent because that will > probably > detract from the perceived quality of our documentation. > I think, I have heard the term "combo box" only in the context of database related stuff. But since I'm not a base user, I don't have any experience there. Sigrid -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Another grep - Drop-down
Hi Barbara, On 16/01/2011 22:31, Barbara Duprey wrote: On 1/16/2011 12:05 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote: Hi Barbara, On 16/01/2011 20:37, Barbara Duprey wrote: OK, which is used in the help -- drop-down, drop-down list, drop-down menu, ? - drop-down alone is not used - drop-down menu is used twice - drop-down icon is used once - drop-down list(s) is used several times. Kind regards Sophie Thanks, Sophie! Hmm -- is there another term used instead? "Several" doesn't seem like enough to cover this, as often as such things are used. Yes, I was also surprised by the "not so many" occurrences of the term (may 6 or 7). "Selection list" or "selection menu" maybe? Or "combo box" as it's called in the form control toolbar? A quick check showed that at least sometimes, there is no term used at all, just directions to "select the ..." without mentioning the control type. So maybe that should be preferred? - selection list is appearing 14 times - selection menu is not used - combo box is really dedicated to Form or Basic use. Kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Another grep - Drop-down
Wow, that is an interesting result! So is "selection list" used more often than "drop-down list"? or is there not much difference between the numbers? Combo-box being used in Base and other form-building sounds exactly right. It is slightly specialised when using it in those contexts so a different name wouldn't suit the context or might make things a bit less clear. Regards from Tom :) From: Sophie Gautier To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Mon, 17 January, 2011 11:08:45 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Another grep - Drop-down Hi Barbara, On 16/01/2011 22:31, Barbara Duprey wrote: > On 1/16/2011 12:05 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote: >> Hi Barbara, >> >> On 16/01/2011 20:37, Barbara Duprey wrote: >>> OK, which is used in the help -- drop-down, drop-down list, drop-down >>> menu, ? >> - drop-down alone is not used >> - drop-down menu is used twice >> - drop-down icon is used once >> - drop-down list(s) is used several times. >> >> Kind regards >> Sophie > > Thanks, Sophie! Hmm -- is there another term used instead? "Several" > doesn't seem like enough to cover this, as often as such things are > used. Yes, I was also surprised by the "not so many" occurrences of the term (may 6 or 7). "Selection list" or "selection menu" maybe? Or "combo box" as it's > called in the form control toolbar? A quick check showed that at least > sometimes, there is no term used at all, just directions to "select the > ..." without mentioning the control type. So maybe that should be > preferred? > - selection list is appearing 14 times - selection menu is not used - combo box is really dedicated to Form or Basic use. Kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Another grep - Drop-down
Hi :) Ok, i have spotted the numbers drop-down list = 6 or 7 selection list= 14 I still think we should aim to use "Drop-down list" because it makes more intuitive sense to people that have not heard either term before. However, i still think there is no need to change whichever of those 2 is used in each place. Someone said there is a glossary or is that not quite built yet? Could i help build it? Is there an easy link to it, if it exists? Regards from Tom :) From: Sophie Gautier To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Mon, 17 January, 2011 11:08:45 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Another grep - Drop-down Hi Barbara, On 16/01/2011 22:31, Barbara Duprey wrote: > On 1/16/2011 12:05 PM, Sophie Gautier wrote: >> Hi Barbara, >> >> On 16/01/2011 20:37, Barbara Duprey wrote: >>> OK, which is used in the help -- drop-down, drop-down list, drop-down >>> menu, ? >> - drop-down alone is not used >> - drop-down menu is used twice >> - drop-down icon is used once >> - drop-down list(s) is used several times. >> >> Kind regards >> Sophie > > Thanks, Sophie! Hmm -- is there another term used instead? "Several" > doesn't seem like enough to cover this, as often as such things are > used. Yes, I was also surprised by the "not so many" occurrences of the term (may 6 or 7). "Selection list" or "selection menu" maybe? Or "combo box" as it's > called in the form control toolbar? A quick check showed that at least > sometimes, there is no term used at all, just directions to "select the > ..." without mentioning the control type. So maybe that should be > preferred? > - selection list is appearing 14 times - selection menu is not used - combo box is really dedicated to Form or Basic use. Kind regards Sophie -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity *** -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] unsubscribe
On 1/17/2011 2:46 AM, Kurt Stahl wrote: can you explain to me, why I got 85 mails today from your organisation? It is incredible! Apparently, when you subscribed to the various lists you were unprepared for the volume of message traffic you would receive, and that's unfortunate. But to stop receiving the e-mails, you will have to retrace the same path you used in subscribing, this time using the word unsubscribe instead of the word subscribe. That is, you will need to unsubscribe any list you are currently receiving. The general format is listname+unsubscr...@libreoffice.org, where listname is, for example, documentation. This will need to be done from the same address used when you subscribed. If you still have the original subscription requests in your Sent folder (or the equivalent), that would be a good place to start. -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Contributing
2011/1/16 Tom Davies > Hi :) > > I have checked just for spellings not even a grammar check. > 1. Changed a couple of titles to Title Case rather than normal sentence. > 2. Should be ? I didn't change it. > 3. There was a subsection covering Debian & Ubuntu that had a "su" command. > Presumably Debian doesn't have "sudo" but Ubuntu does. So, i split that > sub-section into 2 sub-sections; one for Debian and another for Ubuntu. If > Debian does use sudo then the 2 sub-sections could be recombined. Later on > a > subsection for Debian & Ubuntu does use "sudo" for both distros. > Debian has sudo, but it must be configured, but it's ok to let sudo for Debian based distros. People will know what to do... > 4. Is Suse correct? I thought their name was now openSUSE > http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=suse > So, i changed all to openSUSE. > This is the part David has to tell us for what exact distro he wrote the initial install instructions, I tested them in openSUSE 11.3 > 5. 1 instance of libreoffice changed to LibreOffice because it was not in a > url > or command-line command or other code, just a tpyo i think. > 6. Can the source-code tarballs be used in Hurd distros aswell as Linux > ones? > Can they be used in BSD OSes? Is the plural of Linux = Linuxes, Linii, > Linices > or distros? The term 'Distros' may be changing slightly to include other > unix-based platforms. > Now this is waay more geek than I can relate to, someone knows if we can build the LibreOffice in other kernels? 7. i changed "dropdown" to "drop-down" > 8. Titles shouldn't have at the end right? > 9. QuickStarter looked fine as it's camel-case and seems to be a name of > something? > 10. I changed a title from > "Un-Installing a Previous Version of LibreOffice" to just "Un-Installing > LibreOffice" to make the section more useful. Added a line to say that > un-installing previous versions is a smart plan. > 11. I think "deselect" should be changed to "de-select" but i left it as it > was. It was consistent through the document so i guessed it might widely > used > in the rest of documentation in which case it is better to stay consistent > for a > little niggle like this. > For me it is indiferent, even changing the term if something other seems more precise. > > I thought i had proof-read this document before as many of the errors were > tiny > issues that i had corrected somewhere before. These things take a lot less > time > 2nd time around so i am not worried about that but it does worry me that i > might > have followed a wrong work-flow and stuffed something up for someone else? > For > a wiki i should just click on the "Edit" tab at the top, do the changes, > add a > summary of the changes made and click on "Save Page" at the bottom? > You could just add something like "reviewed the spelling" ;) Thanks anyway for this Rogerio -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Install Guide Feedback
2011/1/16 Tom Davies > Hi :) > > I agree. > > However, we sometimes focus tooo much on extremely rare and unlikely > situations. This seems to make non-linux users think that we always have > to use > one of those complicated methods. I have had an offlist chat with someone > from > here who had a brief try at linux. He always used the complicated methods > because he never found the gui package managers. > > Hmm, i am not sure about expecting documentation to be 100% up-to-date. > Sometimes examples have to be given of specific releases but usually > documentation 'should' make that clear and show which part might need > tweaking > if used on subsequent releases. Also i don't expect documentation to be > 100% > good english. That is partly because we all use English slightly > differently. > Different towns, different social groups, different professions all use > different vocabulary and different sentence structures. We aim somewhere > near > perfection and that works well. > > > Anyway the main point was that your documentation was good and will be > useful. > I enjoyed proof-reading it (unlike some people's writings!) but i think > someone > a bit more technical might need to tidy up the areas you said were > incomplete. > I didn't thoroughly test the process you described but it looked about > right at > a skim through. I was more interested in quickly sorting grammar, spelling > and > sundry pedantic stuff like that :) All was good before but is hopefully a > little better now :) > > Thanks and regards from > Tom :) > > Thanks again :) Rogerio -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ *** All posts to this list are publicly archived for eternity ***
