Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Doodle poll: Doc meeting on Thursday April 23rd
Hi Pulkit, all So we cancel the 12:UTC meeting. Regards Olivier Em 22/04/2020 08:05, Pulkit Krishna escreveu: > Hello Oliver, > There is no need for this. I will send whatever I want to say in the > meeting to the IRC channel at 1200 UTC tomorrow. You or someone else can > convey them I think. No need to organise a separate call just for me. If > anybody else wants to join at 12 UTC then it is OK otherwise no need to do > so. > Pulkit Krishna > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 6:06 PM Olivier Hallot < > olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote: > >> Hi Team >> >> Thanks to all that responded the Doodle poll. >> >> I'd like to suggest the meeting to be split in 2, given the time >> availability of the members. >> >> 1st call at 12:00 UTC, with myself and Pulkit, plus whoever wants to be >> there too. >> >> 2nd call at 18:00 UTC with the rest of the team. >> >> We will use the following jitsi meeting room >> >> https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam >> >> The meeting room is supposed to work will all browsers without the need >> of a specific plugin. >> >> The documentation pad for the meeting minute is >> >> http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation >> >> Main topics (see pad for updated topics) >> * Status of >> - Getting started Guide >> - Draw and Impress >> - Calc >> - Writer >> - Base >> >> * Issues and concerns >> >> * LibreOffice Help pages >> >> See you on THURSDAY April 23rd. >> >> -- >> Olivier Hallot >> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator >> Comunidade LibreOffice >> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 >> http://tdf.io/joinus >> >> -- >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> Problems? >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy >> > -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Find & replace attributes not working
Four comments... 1/ To my mind there's a missing piece of information: the definition of (or how to determine) the default font. Is it the Font used by the Default paragraph style (and if so, is it the Family, the Asian Text Font, or the CTL Font)? Or is it something else, like the Default character style (and if so, is it the Family, the Asian Text Font, or the CTL Font)? Or something else? 2/ The information callout says: "If you want to find text with any font by name, click the Format button in the Find & Replace dialog of LibreOffice Writer." Since people may read just the callout, should it perhaps instead say: "If you want to find text with any font by name (that is not the default font), click the Format button in the Find & Replace dialog of LibreOffice Writer." 3/ Also, reading the text reminds me of why I originally joined the team - to try to write up what I've been learning about what is meant by direct formatting. I've had so little spare time I still haven't made any contribution in that area. So I wonder if, in the opening paragraph that opens by saying: "You can search for text with attributes that are applied either by direct formatting or by styles." - whether the mention of "direct formatting" could be hyperlinked to any documentation that explains what's meant by that. Or is that an area where I could still perhaps make a contribution? 4/ One final small suggestion: in the "To search for all font changes" section, might it be a good idea to add a sentence like: "To search for a specific font (e.g. Times Roman), or a particular font style (e.g. Italic), select "Format..." instead of "Attributes..." in the Find & Replace panel", followed by the "Font" tab in the provided "Search for formatting" panel. luke On 23/4/20 2:37 am, S Shravz wrote: Glad if my inputs did sort this out in some way. I haven't referred to this topic in the guide. Yes! few aspects are actually confusing for the end user to understand, even I have been changing it to be even more user friendly. Have a nice day! Kind regards Shravani On Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 9:40 AM Toni B wrote: Thank you all for the suggestions and research. Shravani - I do see the behavior you describe and afterward, the text makes better sense. As an "end user" I think this behavior is very confusing. I would expect the Find/Replace to work as described in Find and Replace Paragraph Styles. I will have to let this sink in and see if I can find a better way to describe it for those first using it. The expectation of choices popping up in the Find and the Replace boxes really threw me off and I think it may throw others off who are first using the software. I welcome any suggestions or opinions. Thanks again! Toni On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:10 PM S Shravz wrote: Hi Toni, I just looked into the steps you have drafted in your first email, when looked into online help I found related content in the below link which might answer your query: https://help.libreoffice.org/6.4/en-US/text/shared/guide/find_attributes.html?=WRITER=WIN The link says "For example, if you search for the Font attribute, all instances of text that do not use the default font are found". So I guess the "Font" function works only to search for the font which doesn't default in the document. Same with the font color option as well when font color is changed in the document and the "Find next" option is clicked with the "Font color" attribute selected, it works. I tried both the options and it worked for me as per whats mentioned in the link. Hope my explanation makes sense. Kind regards Shravani On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:45 PM Toni B wrote: Is anyone able to get the attributes search to work? On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:49 AM Ilmari Lauhakangas < ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org> wrote: Maybe you are seeing https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106076 Ilmari Toni B kirjoitti 21.4.2020 klo 18.42: Hello Team! I could use some guidance. I am double checking some things in updating the Writer Chapter 3 Guide. I can not get the *Find & Replace > Attributes* option to work at all. Should we report this as a bug? Do we delete this section from the manual? *Format* works fine. It is just the *Attributes* search that doesn't work. Please see the steps in my previous email below. Since the instructions say the search looks for changes from the default, I changed some of the font colors but still no options show up in the *Find*: box. [image: image.png] Thank you! Toni On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:08 PM Mark Morin wrote: Font, font color and a lot of others can be found by selecting what you want replaced clicking on the FORMAT button and then selecting the formatting of the selected text that you are looking for. In the replace field, enter the text you want to use as the replacement, click FORMAT and select the formatting you want for that text. For some reason
Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] Multi-threading in Calc
Hi Developers Can charitable soul involved with threading in Calc spend a couple of minutes to write an outline of what we should look to write a section on the topic in our guide and Help? Just the outline and some pointers for our investigation. We think this feature is a plus, but it is not clear if and how an end user will benefit. Thanks in advance Olivier Mensagem encaminhada Assunto: [libreoffice-documentation] Multi-threading in Calc Data: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 09:06:46 +0100 De: Stephen Fanning Para: LibreOffice Documentation All, I am considering the changes necessary to upgrade the Calc Guide to 6.4. One of the issues we chose to ignore in the 6.2 Calc Guide was multi-threading. The 6.2 Calc Guide contains the following mention of it, when describing the Tools > Options > LibreOffice Calc > Calculate page: CPU threading settings section Enable multi-threaded calculation controls the use of multi-threading / parallelism, which can be used to speed up LibreOffice Calc calculations on computers with multiple processing cores. That’s it in the Calc Guide, and I couldn't readily find anything in the Help files. Is there a slightly more detailed explanation anywhere which might enlighten me further, so that I can in turn include a little more information for the user? Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Find & replace attributes not working
Glad if my inputs did sort this out in some way. I haven't referred to this topic in the guide. Yes! few aspects are actually confusing for the end user to understand, even I have been changing it to be even more user friendly. Have a nice day! Kind regards Shravani On Wed, Apr 22, 2020, 9:40 AM Toni B wrote: > Thank you all for the suggestions and research. > Shravani - I do see the behavior you describe and afterward, the text makes > better sense. > As an "end user" I think this behavior is very confusing. I would expect > the Find/Replace to work as described in Find and Replace Paragraph > Styles. I will have to let this sink in and see if I can find a better way > to describe it for those first using it. The expectation of choices > popping up in the Find and the Replace boxes really threw me off and I > think it may throw others off who are first using the software. I welcome > any suggestions or opinions. > Thanks again! > Toni > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:10 PM S Shravz wrote: > > > Hi Toni, > > > > I just looked into the steps you have drafted in your first email, when > > looked into online help I found related content in the below link which > > might answer your query: > > > > > https://help.libreoffice.org/6.4/en-US/text/shared/guide/find_attributes.html?=WRITER=WIN > > > > The link says "For example, if you search for the Font attribute, all > > instances of text that do not use the default font are found". So I guess > > the "Font" function works only to search for the font which doesn't > default > > in the document. Same with the font color option as well when font color > is > > changed in the document and the "Find next" option is clicked with the > > "Font color" attribute selected, it works. I tried both the options and > it > > worked for me as per whats mentioned in the link. > > > > Hope my explanation makes sense. > > > > Kind regards > > Shravani > > > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:45 PM Toni B wrote: > > > >> Is anyone able to get the attributes search to work? > >> > >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:49 AM Ilmari Lauhakangas < > >> ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org> wrote: > >> > >> > Maybe you are seeing > >> > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106076 > >> > > >> > Ilmari > >> > > >> > Toni B kirjoitti 21.4.2020 klo 18.42: > >> > > Hello Team! > >> > > > >> > > I could use some guidance. I am double checking some things in > >> updating > >> > > the Writer Chapter 3 Guide. I can not get the *Find & Replace > > >> > Attributes* > >> > > option to work at all. Should we report this as a bug? Do we > delete > >> > this > >> > > section from the manual? *Format* works fine. It is just the > >> > *Attributes* > >> > > search that doesn't work. > >> > > > >> > > Please see the steps in my previous email below. Since the > >> instructions > >> > > say the search looks for changes from the default, I changed some of > >> the > >> > > font colors but still no options show up in the *Find*: box. > >> > > > >> > > [image: image.png] > >> > > > >> > > Thank you! > >> > > > >> > > Toni > >> > > > >> > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:08 PM Mark Morin > >> wrote: > >> > > > >> > >> Font, font color and a lot of others can be found by selecting what > >> you > >> > >> want replaced clicking on the FORMAT button and then selecting the > >> > >> formatting of the selected text that you are looking for. In the > >> replace > >> > >> field, enter the text you want to use as the replacement, click > >> FORMAT > >> > >> and select the formatting you want for that text. > >> > >> > >> > >> For some reason ATTRIBUTES is only available for the field that you > >> want > >> > >> replaced--making it rather useless. > >> > >> > >> > >> On 4/13/2020 8:45 AM, Toni B wrote: > >> > >>> Hello Team, > >> > >>> > >> > >>> I am reviewing *Writer Chapter 3 Working with Text Advanced*.. > >> Under > >> > >> *Advanced > >> > >>> find and replace techniques --> **Find and replace text > attributes > >> and > >> > >>> formatting, *I am unable to search for attributes such as *Font > *or > >> > *Font > >> > >>> color*. Nothing appears in the *Find *box to select. > >> > >>> For example, following these steps below, no options appear under > >> the > >> > >> *Find* > >> > >>> box to choose from: > >> > >>> > >> > >>> > >> > >>> 1. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> On the *Find & Replace* dialog (with *Other Options* > displayed), > >> > click > >> > >>> the *Attributes* button. > >> > >>> 2. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Select the attribute you wish to search for from the list in > the > >> > >>> Attributes dialog and click *OK*. The names of the selected > >> > attributes > >> > >>> appear under the *Find:* box. For example, to search for text > >> that > >> > has > >> > >>> been changed from the default font color, select the *Font > >> Color* > >> > >>> attribute. > >> > >>> > >> > >>> I am using LibreOffice Writer version 6.4.2.2 on a Windows 10 PC, > >> Is >
[libreoffice-documentation] Draw Guide Version 6.4 Chapters 1 thru 4
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Find & replace attributes not working
Thank you all for the suggestions and research. Shravani - I do see the behavior you describe and afterward, the text makes better sense. As an "end user" I think this behavior is very confusing. I would expect the Find/Replace to work as described in Find and Replace Paragraph Styles. I will have to let this sink in and see if I can find a better way to describe it for those first using it. The expectation of choices popping up in the Find and the Replace boxes really threw me off and I think it may throw others off who are first using the software. I welcome any suggestions or opinions. Thanks again! Toni On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 3:10 PM S Shravz wrote: > Hi Toni, > > I just looked into the steps you have drafted in your first email, when > looked into online help I found related content in the below link which > might answer your query: > > https://help.libreoffice.org/6.4/en-US/text/shared/guide/find_attributes.html?=WRITER=WIN > > The link says "For example, if you search for the Font attribute, all > instances of text that do not use the default font are found". So I guess > the "Font" function works only to search for the font which doesn't default > in the document. Same with the font color option as well when font color is > changed in the document and the "Find next" option is clicked with the > "Font color" attribute selected, it works. I tried both the options and it > worked for me as per whats mentioned in the link. > > Hope my explanation makes sense. > > Kind regards > Shravani > > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 12:45 PM Toni B wrote: > >> Is anyone able to get the attributes search to work? >> >> On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 11:49 AM Ilmari Lauhakangas < >> ilmari.lauhakan...@libreoffice.org> wrote: >> >> > Maybe you are seeing >> > https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=106076 >> > >> > Ilmari >> > >> > Toni B kirjoitti 21.4.2020 klo 18.42: >> > > Hello Team! >> > > >> > > I could use some guidance. I am double checking some things in >> updating >> > > the Writer Chapter 3 Guide. I can not get the *Find & Replace > >> > Attributes* >> > > option to work at all. Should we report this as a bug? Do we delete >> > this >> > > section from the manual? *Format* works fine. It is just the >> > *Attributes* >> > > search that doesn't work. >> > > >> > > Please see the steps in my previous email below. Since the >> instructions >> > > say the search looks for changes from the default, I changed some of >> the >> > > font colors but still no options show up in the *Find*: box. >> > > >> > > [image: image.png] >> > > >> > > Thank you! >> > > >> > > Toni >> > > >> > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 12:08 PM Mark Morin >> wrote: >> > > >> > >> Font, font color and a lot of others can be found by selecting what >> you >> > >> want replaced clicking on the FORMAT button and then selecting the >> > >> formatting of the selected text that you are looking for. In the >> replace >> > >> field, enter the text you want to use as the replacement, click >> FORMAT >> > >> and select the formatting you want for that text. >> > >> >> > >> For some reason ATTRIBUTES is only available for the field that you >> want >> > >> replaced--making it rather useless. >> > >> >> > >> On 4/13/2020 8:45 AM, Toni B wrote: >> > >>> Hello Team, >> > >>> >> > >>> I am reviewing *Writer Chapter 3 Working with Text Advanced*.. >> Under >> > >> *Advanced >> > >>> find and replace techniques --> **Find and replace text attributes >> and >> > >>> formatting, *I am unable to search for attributes such as *Font *or >> > *Font >> > >>> color*. Nothing appears in the *Find *box to select. >> > >>> For example, following these steps below, no options appear under >> the >> > >> *Find* >> > >>> box to choose from: >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> 1. >> > >>> >> > >>> On the *Find & Replace* dialog (with *Other Options* displayed), >> > click >> > >>> the *Attributes* button. >> > >>> 2. >> > >>> >> > >>> Select the attribute you wish to search for from the list in the >> > >>> Attributes dialog and click *OK*. The names of the selected >> > attributes >> > >>> appear under the *Find:* box. For example, to search for text >> that >> > has >> > >>> been changed from the default font color, select the *Font >> Color* >> > >>> attribute. >> > >>> >> > >>> I am using LibreOffice Writer version 6.4.2.2 on a Windows 10 PC, >> Is >> > >>> anyone else able to get this working? >> > >>> >> > >>> Thank you! >> > >>> >> > >>> Kind regards, >> > >>> >> > >>> Toni >> > >>> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> -- >> > >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: >> > documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org >> > >> Problems? >> > >> >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ >> > >> Posting guidelines + more: >> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette >> > >> List archive: >> > https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ >> > >> Privacy Policy:
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Doodle poll: Doc meeting on Thursday April 23rd
Hello Oliver, There is no need for this. I will send whatever I want to say in the meeting to the IRC channel at 1200 UTC tomorrow. You or someone else can convey them I think. No need to organise a separate call just for me. If anybody else wants to join at 12 UTC then it is OK otherwise no need to do so. Pulkit Krishna On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 6:06 PM Olivier Hallot < olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org> wrote: > Hi Team > > Thanks to all that responded the Doodle poll. > > I'd like to suggest the meeting to be split in 2, given the time > availability of the members. > > 1st call at 12:00 UTC, with myself and Pulkit, plus whoever wants to be > there too. > > 2nd call at 18:00 UTC with the rest of the team. > > We will use the following jitsi meeting room > > https://jitsi.documentfoundation.org/tdfdocteam > > The meeting room is supposed to work will all browsers without the need > of a specific plugin. > > The documentation pad for the meeting minute is > > http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation > > Main topics (see pad for updated topics) > * Status of > - Getting started Guide > - Draw and Impress > - Calc > - Writer > - Base > > * Issues and concerns > > * LibreOffice Help pages > > See you on THURSDAY April 23rd. > > -- > Olivier Hallot > LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator > Comunidade LibreOffice > Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 > http://tdf.io/joinus > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Multi-threading in Calc
All, I am considering the changes necessary to upgrade the Calc Guide to 6.4. One of the issues we chose to ignore in the 6.2 Calc Guide was multi-threading. The 6.2 Calc Guide contains the following mention of it, when describing the Tools > Options > LibreOffice Calc > Calculate page: CPU threading settings section Enable multi-threaded calculation controls the use of multi-threading / parallelism, which can be used to speed up LibreOffice Calc calculations on computers with multiple processing cores. That’s it in the Calc Guide, and I couldn't readily find anything in the Help files. Is there a slightly more detailed explanation anywhere which might enlighten me further, so that I can in turn include a little more information for the user? Regards, Steve -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Reviews
Yes, I agree. Le mer. 22 avr. 2020 6:13 AM, a écrit : > I think Randolph is already doing Impress, but Draw also needs a second > review. > > Kees > > randolph gamo schreef op 21.04.2020 17:23: > > Hi Claire, > > The chapter on impress, of the Getting started guide v6.4 , needs a > > second > > review. It is in the feedback folder there. > > > > Randolph > > > > > > Le mar. 21 avr. 2020 4:09 PM, Claire Wood > > a > > écrit : > > > >> Hi All, I am wondering if anyone needs a reviewer. I’ve kept an eye on > >> the > >> Feedback folders for Draw and Writer but nothing new as yet. Can I > >> have > >> some direction please? Which author do you want me to support this > >> week? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Claire > >> -- > >> Best wishes > >> > >> Claire Wood > >> > >> -- > >> To unsubscribe e-mail to: > >> documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > >> Problems? > >> https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > >> Posting guidelines + more: > >> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > >> List archive: > >> https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > >> Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy > >> > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
