Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc's Z-test tool

2020-09-01 Thread Mark Morin
Variance can't be zero for analysis of variance tests (t test, F test,
etc). Statistical testing assumes that you have variance otherwise you
really wouldn't need a test.

On 9/1/2020 4:48 PM, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
> I was looking at a bug report again:
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132983
>
> The reporter is scratching their head over the "division by zero"
> result for z.
>
> From what I can see, the "Known variance" values can't both be zero,
> if you want to avoid the #DIV/0! results. You have to give at least
> one of them a positive non-zero value.
>
> Now, looking at Help:
> https://help.libreoffice.org/7.1/en-US/text/scalc/01/statistics_test_z.html
>
>
> and the Calc guide chapter CG7009-DataAnalysis-SF-12Aug2020, we see
> this same "division by zero" result and the reader is left holding it.
>
> How to present this better in the docs? I have no experience on the
> topic, but I hope we can find some statistician to shed light on this!
>
> Ilmari
>

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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc's Z-test tool

2020-09-01 Thread Ilmari Lauhakangas
I was looking at a bug report again: 
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132983


The reporter is scratching their head over the "division by zero" result 
for z.


From what I can see, the "Known variance" values can't both be zero, if 
you want to avoid the #DIV/0! results. You have to give at least one of 
them a positive non-zero value.


Now, looking at Help:
https://help.libreoffice.org/7.1/en-US/text/scalc/01/statistics_test_z.html

and the Calc guide chapter CG7009-DataAnalysis-SF-12Aug2020, we see this 
same "division by zero" result and the reader is left holding it.


How to present this better in the docs? I have no experience on the 
topic, but I hope we can find some statistician to shed light on this!


Ilmari

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Re[2]: [libreoffice-documentation] Please give your feedback for this document edit

2020-09-01 Thread Steve (GMail)

Hi Ronnie,

As Olivier commented, this update is what we hoped for.

A few further comments for you to consider:

SUMMARY SUB-SECTION
1.Should the summary state that this function calculates the 
“principal value”, which is an accepted term I believe.
2.Similarly, would it be worth mentioning “arc cosine” as well as 
“inverse trigonometric cosine”.


ARGUMENTS SUB-SECTION
1.Since the Syntax sub-section gives the argument name as Number, I 
would suggest that the singular form is used in this subsection too.
2.A very minor point, but is it worth putting a plus sign before 
“1”?
3.I would be wary about using the acronym NaN which may not be 
familiar to some of our users. Perhaps replace with the more specific 
“an invalid numeric value (#NUM!) error”.
4.Apologies but I do not know what the last sentence really means 
(“Because ACOS is a static method of Math, you always use it as Math”).


EXAMPLES SUB-SECTION
1.I think the format looks great.
2.In description for third and fourth examples, radian and degree 
should both be plural.

3.In description for fourth example, insert “by” before 180/PI().
4.In description for fifth example, again I would not bother with 
the NaN acronym. So maybe change “error (NaN)” to “an error”. Also I 
suspect you could safely delete “which is between -1 and 1” as it is 
already been stated.
5.A point for discussion – is the dynamic GIF appropriate for 
functions like this or is animation unnecessary for such a simple 
function? Would a static GIF convey the necessary information 
adequately?
6.Another point for discussion – as the GIF covers the whole of the 
function and isn’t really an example, would it be more appropriately 
placed in the Additional details sub-section?


I hope these thoughts help. And please keep up the good work!

Regards,

Steve


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Hi Ronnie

I think we're on track. A small note below.

Em 01/09/2020 11:25, GANDHI RONNIE escreveu:

 Hello all,

 I have edited this Calc function ACOS's wiki page where I made a few
 changes:
 1. Following a tabular example format
 2. Added bad case example
 3. Added a gif I created myself to avoid copyright issues besides getting
 benefit of customizing to our needs


The vertical axis should mention "radians" and pi.


 4. Adding related functions
 5. Linked to corresponding ODF section

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Calc_Functions/ACOS

 I would be applying similar changes to Calc functions one by one with an
 exception of Gifs and images only wherever needed.

 Looking forward to your feedback.
 Regards,
 Ronnie


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Please give your feedback for this document edit

2020-09-01 Thread Olivier Hallot
Hi Ronnie

I think we're on track. A small note below.

Em 01/09/2020 11:25, GANDHI RONNIE escreveu:
> Hello all,
> 
> I have edited this Calc function ACOS's wiki page where I made a few
> changes:
> 1. Following a tabular example format
> 2. Added bad case example
> 3. Added a gif I created myself to avoid copyright issues besides getting
> benefit of customizing to our needs

The vertical axis should mention "radians" and pi.

> 4. Adding related functions
> 5. Linked to corresponding ODF section
> 
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Calc_Functions/ACOS
> 
> I would be applying similar changes to Calc functions one by one with an
> exception of Gifs and images only wherever needed.
> 
> Looking forward to your feedback.
> Regards,
> Ronnie
> 
regards
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LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator
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Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00
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[libreoffice-documentation] Please give your feedback for this document edit

2020-09-01 Thread GANDHI RONNIE
Hello all,

I have edited this Calc function ACOS's wiki page where I made a few
changes:
1. Following a tabular example format
2. Added bad case example
3. Added a gif I created myself to avoid copyright issues besides getting
benefit of customizing to our needs
4. Adding related functions
5. Linked to corresponding ODF section

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Calc_Functions/ACOS

I would be applying similar changes to Calc functions one by one with an
exception of Gifs and images only wherever needed.

Looking forward to your feedback.
Regards,
Ronnie

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