Re: [libreoffice-documentation] What to do next

2012-04-06 Thread David Blymire
Thanks, Jean! Eventually I'll get the hang of the process. For now, I'll 
do some reading, as suggested.


David Blymire

On 04/06/2012 06:47 PM, Jean Weber wrote:

On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 08:00, David Blymire  wrote:

Hi everyone,

Is there a part of the update to Writer's Guide 3.5 that hasn't been
claimed?

I was thinking that since I just spent some time in Chap. 13, I could go
back and work on making the screen shots look more consistent, if no one
else has already got it. But there might be something else more pressing.

Please let me know how and where I can help.

David Blymire

No one has "claimed" any of the Writer Guide updates for v3.5, so
please feel free to pick any chapter and go for it. You'll need to
look at the list of new features to see what might need to be done:
http://www.libreoffice.org/download/3-5-new-features-and-fixes/

IMO making screenshots look more consistent is way down the priority
list, in the "nice to have" category. Updating content and correcting
actual mistakes are at the top of the list, in the "essential"
category. I'm not saying "don't do low priority things", just asking
for people to do higher priority things if they feel comfortable doing
so.

You could spend an hour or two having a quick look through the PDF of
the compiled Writer Guide v3.4 that I created, checking it for errors.
I posted a note a day or so ago about what to look for in particular.

--Jean



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[libreoffice-documentation] What to do next

2012-04-06 Thread David Blymire

Hi everyone,

Is there a part of the update to Writer's Guide 3.5 that hasn't been 
claimed?


I was thinking that since I just spent some time in Chap. 13, I could go 
back and work on making the screen shots look more consistent, if no one 
else has already got it. But there might be something else more pressing.


Please let me know how and where I can help.

David Blymire

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Ch 13 of Writer's Guide...

2012-04-02 Thread David Blymire

Jean,

There is one other issue with the master document dialog box (under 
File-Send) -- the click box for "automatic file name extension" in 
Figure 1 is no longer included as a user option. Is this related to some 
other change that needs to be described in the copy, or do I simply 
delete the reference to it?


David Blymire

On 04/02/2012 07:37 AM, David Blymire wrote:

Jean,

Since I'm all "warmed up" on how to do screenshots, I can make the 
changes.


David Blymire

On 04/02/2012 01:12 AM, Jean Weber wrote:
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 07:46, David Blymire  
wrote:

... has been uploaded to ODF Authors. I checked the instructions and
replaced images referencing OOo with new ones. Thanks for your 
patience!


I do have one question about Figure 1. The old version referred to the
"separated by" list (where the user can choose how to separate a 
document

into subdocuments). In my versions (3.4 and 3.5) this has changed to
"styles." I was able to figure out that these were the same thing, 
but if
you want an update, I have a newer screen shot to replace the old 
one. The
text just above Fig. 1 would have to be changed, as well. Maybe this 
can

wait for a future update.

David Blymire


Oh, excellent catch. Yes, let's revise/correct the text and picture
now, while we're finalising the chapter. You want to do that and
replace the copy, or send me the newer screenshot to drop into the
file? (I haven't had a chance yet to look at your other changes.)

--Jean





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Ch 13 of Writer's Guide...

2012-04-02 Thread David Blymire

Jean,

Since I'm all "warmed up" on how to do screenshots, I can make the changes.

David Blymire

On 04/02/2012 01:12 AM, Jean Weber wrote:

On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 07:46, David Blymire  wrote:

... has been uploaded to ODF Authors. I checked the instructions and
replaced images referencing OOo with new ones. Thanks for your patience!

I do have one question about Figure 1. The old version referred to the
"separated by" list (where the user can choose how to separate a document
into subdocuments). In my versions (3.4 and 3.5) this has changed to
"styles." I was able to figure out that these were the same thing, but if
you want an update, I have a newer screen shot to replace the old one. The
text just above Fig. 1 would have to be changed, as well. Maybe this can
wait for a future update.

David Blymire


Oh, excellent catch. Yes, let's revise/correct the text and picture
now, while we're finalising the chapter. You want to do that and
replace the copy, or send me the newer screenshot to drop into the
file? (I haven't had a chance yet to look at your other changes.)

--Jean



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[libreoffice-documentation] Ch 13 of Writer's Guide...

2012-04-01 Thread David Blymire
... has been uploaded to ODF Authors. I checked the instructions and 
replaced images referencing OOo with new ones. Thanks for your patience!


I do have one question about Figure 1. The old version referred to the 
"separated by" list (where the user can choose how to separate a 
document into subdocuments). In my versions (3.4 and 3.5) this has 
changed to "styles." I was able to figure out that these were the same 
thing, but if you want an update, I have a newer screen shot to replace 
the old one. The text just above Fig. 1 would have to be changed, as 
well. Maybe this can wait for a future update.


David Blymire

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer's Guide Questions

2012-03-31 Thread David Blymire

Jean,

I reloaded the file from ODF Authors and discovered a substantial 
difference (500KB) in the size of the original file and the reloaded 
file. So that seems to account for the vanishing images -- they were not 
present in the file the first time. So I can finish the review by Monday 
or earlier (eastern US time).


David Blymire

On 03/31/2012 12:51 AM, Jean Weber wrote:

David,
Unless you are already doing so, I will update the images that I
flagged in that chapter as needing work. Perhaps after I do that, as a
side-effect the file will behave itself better.

--Jean

On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 06:31, Jean Weber  wrote:

Once the file loses the figures completely, the only thing you can do is get a 
fresh copy of the file and start over, or copy the figures into the working 
copy. To tell if the figures are actually gone, look at the file size. If it's 
conspicuously smaller than the original file, the pix are gone.

--Jean

On 31/03/2012, at 4:32, David Blymire  wrote:


Jean,

I seem to be experiencing the vanishing images problem only in this file. I had 
previously configured the settings under tools-options for memory, etc., and I 
can seemingly open any other file and see the images. I tried Chapter 13 from 
version 3.3 and found all the images with no problem. So, either there is some 
setting I'm missing, or the images really are not there. Could the file have 
become corrupted in download? My only other alternative is to open the chapter 
from both 3.4 and 3.3, side by side, and compare the settings, which I'm about 
to do.

I had created a master document with subdocuments to check the instructions, 
and they work just fine. Its not knowing the state of the figures.

David Blymire

On 03/30/2012 07:03 AM, Jean Weber wrote:

David,

How are you doing with that chapter? Have you got the problems with
the figures sorted out?

--Jean



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer's Guide Questions

2012-03-30 Thread David Blymire

Jean,

I seem to be experiencing the vanishing images problem only in this 
file. I had previously configured the settings under tools-options for 
memory, etc., and I can seemingly open any other file and see the 
images. I tried Chapter 13 from version 3.3 and found all the images 
with no problem. So, either there is some setting I'm missing, or the 
images really are not there. Could the file have become corrupted in 
download? My only other alternative is to open the chapter from both 3.4 
and 3.3, side by side, and compare the settings, which I'm about to do.


I had created a master document with subdocuments to check the 
instructions, and they work just fine. Its not knowing the state of the 
figures.


David Blymire

On 03/30/2012 07:03 AM, Jean Weber wrote:

David,

How are you doing with that chapter? Have you got the problems with
the figures sorted out?

--Jean



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[libreoffice-documentation] Writer's Guide Questions

2012-03-27 Thread David Blymire

Jean,

I've been reviewing Chapter 13, "Working With Master Documents." Most of 
it is good, but I do have a couple of questions:


1). About 2/3 of the screen shots needed for the figures are missing 
(not just invisible, but actually not there according to my navigator 
panel). I would be happy to work on that. Is it necessary for my Ubuntu 
version of LO to be 3.4.5? I'm running 3.5 in Ubuntu and 3.4.5 in 
Windows XP, but the XP version is visually not consistent with the 
screen shots that are already there.


2). I have noticed one issue on page 18 "creating one file from a master 
document and its subdocuments." Figure 19 looks completely different in 
Windows. And,in the tip box below Fig. 19; there is no "links" command 
at all. I guess my larger question is: How do we typically deal with 
differences across platforms?


Regards,
David Blymire

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] re-branding

2012-03-08 Thread David Blymire

I'm on it.

David Blymire

On 03/08/2012 02:20 PM, Jean Weber wrote:

Several chapters in Getting Started and Writer Guide are still needing review. 
:-)

Jean

On 09/03/2012, at 1:29, David Blymire  wrote:


Meanwhile, I should have no trouble finding something else to do!

Thanks,
David Blymire

On 03/08/2012 10:23 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Ouch, sorry for the timing there!  It's always good to check these things so 
i'm glad we did!
Thanks Dan :)
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 8/3/12, Dan Lewis   wrote:

From: Dan Lewis
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] re-branding
To: "Tom Davies"
Cc: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 8 March, 2012, 15:15

BIG PROBLEM:  I am presently completing Chapter 2 of the Base Guide for
LO.

--Dan

On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 14:58 +, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
That would be great, if you are up for the challenge!

At a guess i think the Base chapters are waiting in the relevant
folders in ODFAuthors. Good luck and regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 8/3/12, David Blymire   wrote:
        From: David Blymire
  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] re-branding
  To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
  Date: Thursday, 8 March, 2012, 13:34
Tom,
I know I'm a week behind in responding, but I'd be 
interested
  in giving this a whirl if you still need help.
David Blymire
On 03/01/2012 06:35 PM, Tom Davies wrote:
  >   Hi :)
  >   Is anyone fairly new and looking for a challenge?  An area
  that is often avoided 'only' needs some re-branding work in
  it's chapter 2.  It's would help a new person gain an insight
  into the work the docs team did in producing the 3.3.x guides.
  I think Base Chapter 2 needs re-branding but the rest of the
  heavy lifting has already been done.
  >   It needs a 2nd pair of eyes but since Dan wrote it you don't
  need to have any idea of how Base works nor iof how the team
  works.  It's an excellent opportunity to learn a little about
  Base and complete a task that people will appreciate.
  >   Somewhere there is a wiki-page describing what needs to be
  done during re-branding.  I think Jean covered most of it in
  her email about choosing which theme (if you are up for doing
  screen-shots at the same time) and downloading the right
  version of LibreOffice but there are other helpful pointers
  listed somewhere.
  >   Good luck and regards from
  >   Tom :)
  >
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] re-branding

2012-03-08 Thread David Blymire

Meanwhile, I should have no trouble finding something else to do!

Thanks,
David Blymire

On 03/08/2012 10:23 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Ouch, sorry for the timing there!  It's always good to check these things so 
i'm glad we did!
Thanks Dan :)
Regards from
Tom :)


--- On Thu, 8/3/12, Dan Lewis  wrote:

From: Dan Lewis
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] re-branding
To: "Tom Davies"
Cc: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Thursday, 8 March, 2012, 15:15

BIG PROBLEM:  I am presently completing Chapter 2 of the Base Guide for
LO.

--Dan

On Thu, 2012-03-08 at 14:58 +, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
That would be great, if you are up for the challenge!

At a guess i think the Base chapters are waiting in the relevant
folders in ODFAuthors. 
Good luck and regards from

Tom :)


--- On Thu, 8/3/12, David Blymire  wrote:
      
      From: David Blymire

  Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] re-branding
  To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
  Date: Thursday, 8 March, 2012, 13:34
  
  Tom,
  
  I know I'm a week behind in responding, but I'd be interested

  in giving this a whirl if you still need help.
  
  David Blymire
  
  On 03/01/2012 06:35 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

  >  Hi :)
  >  Is anyone fairly new and looking for a challenge?  An area
  that is often avoided 'only' needs some re-branding work in
  it's chapter 2.  It's would help a new person gain an insight
  into the work the docs team did in producing the 3.3.x guides.
  I think Base Chapter 2 needs re-branding but the rest of the
  heavy lifting has already been done.
  >  It needs a 2nd pair of eyes but since Dan wrote it you don't
  need to have any idea of how Base works nor iof how the team
  works.  It's an excellent opportunity to learn a little about
  Base and complete a task that people will appreciate.
  >  Somewhere there is a wiki-page describing what needs to be
  done during re-branding.  I think Jean covered most of it in
  her email about choosing which theme (if you are up for doing
  screen-shots at the same time) and downloading the right
  version of LibreOffice but there are other helpful pointers
  listed somewhere.
  >  Good luck and regards from
  >  Tom :)
  >
  
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] re-branding

2012-03-08 Thread David Blymire

Tom,

I know I'm a week behind in responding, but I'd be interested in giving 
this a whirl if you still need help.


David Blymire

On 03/01/2012 06:35 PM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Is anyone fairly new and looking for a challenge?  An area that is often avoided 'only' needs some re-branding work in it's chapter 2.  It's would help a new person gain an insight into the work the docs team did in producing the 3.3.x guides.  I think Base Chapter 2 needs re-branding but the rest of the heavy lifting has already been done. 

It needs a 2nd pair of eyes but since Dan wrote it you don't need to have any idea of how Base works nor iof how the team works.  It's an excellent opportunity to learn a little about Base and complete a task that people will appreciate. 

Somewhere there is a wiki-page describing what needs to be done during re-branding.  I think Jean covered most of it in her email about choosing which theme (if you are up for doing screen-shots at the same time) and downloading the right version of LibreOffice but there are other helpful pointers listed somewhere. 


Good luck and regards from
Tom :)



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Finished reviewing Chapter 2 of Writer Guide

2012-03-07 Thread David Blymire

Jean,

At the bottom of Page 11, the text reads: "Alternatively, click the Edit 
button to open the Color dialog box, shown in Figure 11." It looked as 
though it should read "Figure 10," but maybe I misunderstood.


Another thing I wasn't clear about was that in my version of LO, 
(version 3.4.5 in Win XP), there were numerous gray shaded blocks 
randomly scattered through the text and in some captions. Was I seeing 
the remnant of previous editing marks? Just curious, for future reference.


-- David B.








On 03/07/2012 03:25 PM, Jean Weber wrote:

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 04:35, David Blymire  wrote:

Jean,

I have reviewed and uploaded Chapter 2 of the Writer Guide, "Setting Up
Writer," to the ODFAuthors "feedback" section. I hope the upload was done
correctly!


Yep, you did it correctly. I do have one question: in the comments on
the upload, you said, "Minor issues highlighted on pages 8 and 11." I
found the one on page 8 (good catch) but not on page 11. What am I
missing? Thanks!

--Jean



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[libreoffice-documentation] Finished reviewing Chapter 2 of Writer Guide

2012-03-07 Thread David Blymire

Jean,

I have reviewed and uploaded Chapter 2 of the Writer Guide, "Setting Up 
Writer," to the ODFAuthors "feedback" section. I hope the upload was 
done correctly!


Thanks,
David Blymire

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Newbie question

2012-02-29 Thread David Blymire
I think I answered my own question! I found what I was looking for after 
reading the instructions a little more closely.


Thanks,
David Blymire

On 02/29/2012 03:59 PM, David Blymire wrote:

Hello,

I'm not clear on where I should go to find items that need to be 
reviewed.


I've seen references to a drafts folder as well as a review list. I 
can see the review list on ODFAuthors, but nothing about drafts (after 
I click on LibreOffice and English). Which one should I use and how do 
I get there? Also, when a reviewer clicks on something to read it, 
does that lock it out so that someone else can't work on the same file 
at the same time?


On a positive note, most of the info I've read so far is very clear. I 
just read through the Producing LibreOffice User Guides file, and 
found it very straightforward.


Thanks for your patience.

David Blymire



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[libreoffice-documentation] Newbie question

2012-02-29 Thread David Blymire

Hello,

I'm not clear on where I should go to find items that need to be reviewed.

I've seen references to a drafts folder as well as a review list. I can 
see the review list on ODFAuthors, but nothing about drafts (after I 
click on LibreOffice and English). Which one should I use and how do I 
get there? Also, when a reviewer clicks on something to read it, does 
that lock it out so that someone else can't work on the same file at the 
same time?


On a positive note, most of the info I've read so far is very clear. I 
just read through the Producing LibreOffice User Guides file, and found 
it very straightforward.


Thanks for your patience.

David Blymire

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer guide chapter 7

2012-02-28 Thread David Blymire

Jean and Tom,

I'll give the Getting Started chapters a look.

David Blymire

On 02/28/2012 04:37 PM, Jean Weber wrote:

John, I will be returning a file containing my edits and updates on top of your 
edits to Chapter 6 (Intro to styles) later today. I'd like to have you go over 
my changes, which may include some questions. Then I plan to work on your 
version of Ch7. I probably have some additions and updates to that one as well. 
I really like what you've done, with a few minor exceptions.

Tom, because I expect to make further changes to Ch7, I think it would be best 
for others to wait until I've done that. There are several chapters in Getting 
Started that really could use someone to go over, and a newcomer could very 
usefully contribute to them.

Jean

On 29/02/2012, at 2:06, John Smith  wrote:


Hi Tom
Well, it's been updated from 3.3 to 3.4. Only 1 graphics replacement. Some 
added content. A couple of queries regarding the Scenario frame as I'm unsure 
of the formatting for it. The layout is a little questionable, I didn't want to 
alter stuff I knew too little about. Probably (?) best for someone in the know 
to deal with it as I'm new to all this stuff too! :-[
Regards

John

On 28/02/2012 13:18, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
Nicely done :)  Which stage is it in?  Does it need proof-reading?  Could a new 
person do the proof-reading?
Regards from
Tom :)



--- On Mon, 27/2/12, John Smith   wrote:

From: John Smith
Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer guide chapter 7
To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Monday, 27 February, 2012, 22:36

Hi
Writer chapter 7, LO3.4 uploaded to ODFAuthors.
Zipped graphics uploaded to Writer guide graphics folder on ODF.

John

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] May I introduce myself...

2012-02-24 Thread David Blymire

Thanks Jean.

I guess I'll start with Getting Started and Writer Guide. Usually, my 
next question on such occasions would be "what's the deadline?" but 
maybe I don't need to lose any sleep over it? :-)


David B.

On 02/24/2012 04:14 PM, Jean Weber wrote:

On 25/02/2012, at 3:41, David Blymire  wrote:


I'm interested in getting started as a documentation volunteer contributor. As 
a former newspaper journalist with more than 10 years' experience, my strengths 
would be in writing, editing, proofreading, researching, etc. I've been using 
OpenOffice.org/LibreOffice for several years, mainly Writer and Calc. While I 
have little formal training in a technical field, I do have experience 
explaining complex and technical issues to a general audience.

I'm very interested in giving something back to the community that keeps this 
worthwhile enterprise moving forward.  I'd be happy to contribute in any way 
you think is appropriate to my background.

After reading the Contributor's Guide and this forum, I'm not clear whether 
you're using ODFAuthors or Alfresco, or both, so some guidance would be 
appreciated.

Thank you,
David Blymire (pronounced with long-i sounds and emphasis on the first 
syllable.)


Welcome, DavidB (to distinguish from DavidN and any other Davids who may be 
involved).

Several parts of the Contributor's Guide are a bit out of date. In particular, 
we've been using the ODFAuthors website while Alfresco was being fixed. DavidN 
has just given us the good news that Alfresco is available again, so the active 
team members need to decide whether to move back. You'll have seen the other 
thread on that topic

Meanwhile we can continue to use the ODFAuthors website. IMO, the most helpful 
thing you could do right now is review the chapters in the Drafts folders for 
Getting Started and Writer Guide. Both books are nearing completion for LO 
v3.4. I did a quick-and-dirty pass through them and marked some some 
screenshots that need replacement and some things that I know need to be 
checked, but they also need a more thorough review than I gave them. Review in 
this context means checking against the 3.4 software to see if instructions and 
screenshots are still correct and any important new features are covered. We'll 
leave other enhancements (structure, wording) for the v3.5 version of those 
books. (We've been doing incremental improvements with each revision.)

BTW, work on the other books is going directly to v3.5. You are welcome to help 
there, particular with Calc, if you prefer. You are also welcome to work on 
anything else that interests you; we have a lot of miscellaneous documents that 
could use some work. I can point you to some of them. One that I'd really like 
to see updated is a tutorial on using Xforms, but there are others.

Jean


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[libreoffice-documentation] May I introduce myself...

2012-02-24 Thread David Blymire

Hello,

I'm interested in getting started as a documentation volunteer 
contributor. As a former newspaper journalist with more than 10 years' 
experience, my strengths would be in writing, editing, proofreading, 
researching, etc. I've been using OpenOffice.org/LibreOffice for several 
years, mainly Writer and Calc. While I have little formal training in a 
technical field, I do have experience explaining complex and technical 
issues to a general audience.


I'm very interested in giving something back to the community that keeps 
this worthwhile enterprise moving forward.  I'd be happy to contribute 
in any way you think is appropriate to my background.


After reading the Contributor's Guide and this forum, I'm not clear 
whether you're using ODFAuthors or Alfresco, or both, so some guidance 
would be appreciated.


Thank you,
David Blymire (pronounced with long-i sounds and emphasis on the first 
syllable.)


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