Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Impress toolbars in 5.0

2015-07-06 Thread Kevin O'Brien
Thanks, that is a good idea. I'll try that.

Regards,



On Sun, Jul 5, 2015 at 5:43 AM, Cor Nouws oo...@nouenoff.nl wrote:
 Hi Kevin,

 Kevin O'Brien wrote on 03-07-15 23:58:
 Many of the toolbars that are referenced in the text are docked at the
 end of the Standard toolbar and not floating on my 5.0 in Windows
 installation. If that was a a setting I made, I have forgotten about
 it.
 If not, it is a change in behavior that should probably be
 reflected in the Getting Started guide. Can anyone confirm this
 behavior?

 On Linux I only see the Presentation tool bar besides the Standard tool bar.
 I don't think that is different on Windows.
 But you can check if by removing/backing up the current user profile and
 start with a fresh one.

 Ciao,
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Installation Instructions in Getting Started.

2015-07-04 Thread Kevin O'Brien
I want to respond to the idea that helping is overwhelming. It is
work, no doubt about it. But as someone who definitely doe not know
everything (people on the users list can confirm that I regularly post
questions there) I still find I can make a contribution. For example,
yesterday I did a draft of the update of Chapter 6, Impress, to the
5.0 level. I happened to have the day off from work, so I applied my
butt to the chair, and went through the chapter one page at a time
with Impress 5.0 open and checked everything the documentation said. I
discovered that some menu choices had changed, that some terminology
had changed, and updated the documentation to reflect that. Then I put
in new screenshots because what I saw was somewhat different from the
old screenshots. It took me most of the day to do my first draft, I
posted a couple of questions to the list, and I used comments on the
draft to explain some of the changes I made. So it was definitely a
time commitment, but I wanted to make a contribution. I expect doing
an hour a day for a week would accomplish the same thing for anyone
who didn't want to do it in one day, but what it requires mostly is
being careful about checking everything.

If you or anyone else wants to ask me about my work process on this I
am happy to answer any questions.

Regards,



On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 8:59 AM, John Paton john.pa...@patonnet.org.uk wrote:
 Hi, this is a response to some discussion about Installation
 Instructions in the Getting Started Guide. This was a few weeks ago but
 I have been on holiday in the interim.

 I have been 'lurking' on this list for some time now, having
 thought that I might be able to contribute to the documentation, but
 having been overwhelmed by the size of the task.

 As an ordinary user of LO I thought that I might make a point relating
 to the Installation info in the Getting Started book.

 I suspect that the vast majority of ordinary users like me, who use
 Linux as their OS, simply install LO from their distribution's
 repositories, if it is not already installed as part of the base install
 of their distribution. (As a side comment this will often be an older
 version of LO - my version is 4.2 for instance in the latest Linux Mint
 17.1 install). Distributions aimed at non technical users in particular
 tend not to include even the most up to date 'stable' version.

 This requires no knowledge of the Installation process since the Package
 Manager for the distribution handles the whole thing seamlessly.

 In those circumstances the ordinary user may certainly find a 'Getting
 Started Guide' useful but will have no use for installation
 instructions, which might frighten them anyway.

 I accept that Users on Windows and OSX may have different needs but I
 have no idea what the 'market penetration' of LO is on these platforms.
 LO or one of the forks is almost the default Office suite in mainstream
 Linux distributions.

 I know that this post hardly helps move the documentation forward but I
 felt that the view of an ordinary user may be of interest.

 John

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[libreoffice-documentation] Question about audience Getting Started

2015-07-03 Thread Kevin O'Brien
Is the assumption about the Getting Started guide that these are
people new to LibreOffice? I ask because I see some menu options that
a new person would not see, and which the documentation does not
mention (e.g. My Templates).

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[libreoffice-documentation] Impress Issue?

2015-07-03 Thread Kevin O'Brien
In reviewing the chapter on Impress in the Getting Started, I ran
across something that looks different from earlier versions. It has to
do with the Layout properties for Handouts. If you open a presentation
in normal view, then go to the Handout tab, the Layout works as
expected. If you then go to another window, like to consult a document
of some kind, when you come back there is an error message:

Properties for the task that you are performing are not available for
the current selection.

If you then click the Normal tab, and then back to the Handout tab,
the usual Layout properties are back again. This is happening on the
Windows 5.0.0.2 version. When I check the earlier 4.2.8.2 version in
Linux, I don't see this behavior. It feels a little like a bug, though
not a huge one. Can anyone confirm this?

If so, do I file a bug, put a note in the documentation, or ignore it?

Thanks,

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[libreoffice-documentation] Chapter 6 first draft uploaded

2015-07-03 Thread Kevin O'Brien
I uploaded my first draft of Chapter 6, Impress. The page layout
defeated me on Pages 11-12 when I inserted new screen shots, and I am
hoping someone can see where my problem is. There are a couple of
questions outstanding still, but I inserted comments where necessary.

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[libreoffice-documentation] Impress toolbars in 5.0

2015-07-03 Thread Kevin O'Brien
Many of the toolbars that are referenced in the text are docked at the
end of the Standard toolbar and not floating on my 5.0 in Windows
installation. If that was a a setting I made, I have forgotten about
it. If not, it is a change in behavior that should probably be
reflected in the Getting Started guide. Can anyone confirm this
behavior?

Thanks,

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GMail

2014-12-28 Thread Kevin O'Brien
I use two-factor for my account as well. It isn't that big a deal
compared to what happens if someone gets into your account.

Regards,

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 Hi :)
 Ah, since i use GMail too i figure it's a good time for me to change my
 password too jic.

 I use 2 factor authentication which can get a bit awkward when i want to
 login away from my regular machines but hopefully that helped.
 Regards from
 Tom :)

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[libreoffice-documentation] Re: [libreoffice-users] Saving Impress Templates

2014-12-23 Thread Kevin O'Brien
Thanks Tom. I had in mind to get to documentation, but you saved me the trouble.

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 11:24 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi :)
 I thought it might be good for the documentation team to know about this
 thread.  Templates are not so easy in Impress apparently and the guides
 don't seem to be helping at the moment.

 A bug-report has been filed but i was wondering if it would be good to have
 the work-around in the Impress Guide fro this branch.

 Messy Christmar everyone!
 Regards from
 Tom :)



 On 23 December 2014 at 14:53, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com wrote:

 Brian, thank you, that worked, and I doubt I would have thought of it
 any time soon. But I have gone over the Impress Guide and I don't see
 this in there. I am using the IG4.2, which I believe is the latest,
 and the section for Working with Templates begins on Page 47, and I
 just cannot find your solution in there anywhere. Are you using a
 different version of the Impress Guide, perhaps?

 Thanks,



 On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Brian Barker b.m.bar...@btinternet.com
 wrote:
  At 16:26 22/12/2014 -0500, Kevin O'Brien wrote:
 
  From what I read in the documentation I should be able to create a
  Template, save it as a Template, and then it should appear in Available
  for
  Use on the right. When I do that it isn't working, so either I am doing
  it
  wrong or the documentation is missing something.
 
  What I am seeing is that when I am in Impress and go to Save as
  Templates--Save As Template, the window that opens only has one tab,
  Documents, and not the four tabs I am used to seeing (Documents,
  Spreadsheets, Presentations, Drawings). If I go to
  File--New--Templates in
  Impress I see all four tabs, but Templates I saved in the Documents tab
  do
  not appear.
 
  So, am I reading the documentation wrong? Or is something wrong here?
  This
  is LO 4.3 on Windows 7. I'll see what I get when I do it on a Linux
  box.
 
 
  Chapter 2 of the Impress Guide say that you won't see the relevant
  template
  folder if it is empty. Catch-22, eh?!
 
  Here's what it suggests you do:
 
  Saving templates to a hidden folder
  This procedure is for a LibreOffice installation that has yet to have
  any
  user created or imported templates for use in Impress. Any empty
  template
  folders are hidden in the Template Manager and a work-around is
  necessary to
  save the first template into the My Templates folder.
  1) Go to File  Save As Template on the main menu bar to open the
  Template
  Manager dialog. By default the Template Manager opens at the Documents
  page.
  2) Double click on the MediaWiki folder to select it and activate the
  Save
  icon, then click the Save icon.
  3) Specify the template name in the pop-up dialog and click Accept. The
  template is saved into the MediaWiki folder. This appears in the
  MediaWiki
  folder on the dialog page of the file type being saved, which is
  Presentations.
  4) Close the Template Manager dialog.
  5) Go to File  New  Templates on the main menu bar to open the
  Template
  Manager dialog again.
  Note: Closing and opening the Template Manager is necessary so that the
  following steps can be carried out to move your template into the My
  Templates folder.
  6) Select the Presentations tab to open the dialog page for
  presentations
  (Figure 32).
  7) Double-click the MediaWiki folder to open it.
  8) Select the template you have just added and the file handling
  controls
  are displayed.
  9) Click the Move to folder icon and select My Templates from the drop
  list
  that appears. Your template will be moved from the MediaWiki folder to
  the
  My Templates
  folder.
  10) Close the Template Manager dialog.
 
  I trust this helps.
 
  Brian Barker
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer 4.2 Guide Chapter 14

2014-09-30 Thread Kevin O'Brien
I think I will get there, but too many things hit me at once. My contract
just ended and I am looking for another one, and I spent most of a day on
this chapter and had to stop at some point. When I do understand it I think
I can improve the guide on this point.

I plan to take another chapter on the next go around and keep contributing.

Regards,

On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 5:55 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks, Kevin. I have now amended and published that chapter.

 I found the implementation of conditional fields incredibly confusing,
 too. It's actually very logical, just backward from the way I think
 about it as a user, not a programmer. Years ago I needed to use that
 feature in real work for awhile, and I eventually got accustomed to
 its logic.

 --Jean


 On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 11:17 PM, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  No, that was the only change I made. I went through doing each of the
 tasks
  to make sure that the text properly explained everything, but I had
 problems
  with understanding exactly what the conditional fields were doing
 exactly. I
  don't say there is anything wrong with the existing text, only that I had
  trouble understanding the theory behind it. When I have more time I plan
 to
  dig into it, and when I have the proper understanding I will make a
 rewrite
  you can look at.
 
  Thanks,
 
  On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 1:11 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Kevin,
  I see a file in the Feedback folder, but it appears to be unchanged
  from the earlier version, except for the date field that should not
  have been there (and now isn't). Did you make any other changes in it?
  I'm a bit behind on keeping up with what's been happening with this
  chapter. I just want to make sure any further changes are being made
  on the latest iteration.
 
  Regarding the keyboard shortcuts: yes, a note about them is needed.
  I'll write one. Thanks for catching that.
 
  --Jean
 
 
  On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 6:11 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com
 wrote:
   Put your reviewed file here:
  
 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/writer-guide/feedback-4.2
  
   Tell us you've done that. Amend the Tasks page on the wiki,
  
  
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UserGuideTasks#Writer_Guide
  
   I'll take it from there. Thanks!
  
   --Jean
  
  
   On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:05 PM, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com
   wrote:
   I did a review of 14 (Fields), but I may not have handled the
 paperwork
   properly. I did not have an account on Authors when I volunteered. I
   noted
   three things in my review:
  
   1. A date field was inserted that looked like a mistake. I believe
   Sophie
   confirmed it was an error and said she would remove it.
   2. I noted that the keyboard shortcuts did not work for me. My guess
 is
   that it is a KDE problem. Tom, I thought you were going to confirm
   this,
   but I am comfortable with what I found at this point. The questions
   here is
   whether the Guide should say anything about this. I think Jean or
   Sophie
   needs to make that call.
   3. I could not make sense of the section on Conditionals. I could
 click
   the
   buttons and get similar screen shots, but I could not understand
   exactly
   what it was supposed to be doing. I can give ti a try again this
   weekend,
   but I think this is a section that should be rewritten since it is
 not
   at
   all clear what it is doing. Tom you suggested that would be a good
   idea,
   but for a later version of the guide. I will keep this idea on my
 todo
   list
   if that is agreeable to everyone, and see how to offer a rewrite for
 a
   future version.
  
   So, I did a review of Ch.14 with the above results, but I did not
   formally
   do a check-out of the chapter. What should I do now to move this
   forward? I
   now have my Authors account so I can log in and do whatever is
 needed.
  
   Thanks,
  
  
  
   On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
   Hi :)
   I am not sure but i think someone, KO(?), is working on Chapter 14
  
  
  
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UserGuideTasks#Status_of_tasks_-_WG_-_LO_v4.2
  
   I'm even less sure about Chapter 15, Forms.  Peter Goggin expressed
   interest just before he vanished.  So he might be working on it
   already or
   might have been distracted by having to sort out his email-client or
   ISP or
   something.
  
   So if 2 people here could take on one of the 2 other chapters;
   12, Table of Contents, Indexes
   Appendix A, Shortcuts
   then that would be great.
  
   I had a little go at reviewing Shortcut, i mean how hard could that
   be?!
   Once again i found myself running into problems that none of the
 rest
   of
   you seem to find at all difficult.  I could try blaming Ubuntu or my
   install on Ubuntu or that my ham-fisted use of LibreOffice over the
   years
   has messed up the tool-bars

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Five chapters of Writer 4.2 Guide awaiting review

2014-09-25 Thread Kevin O'Brien
I did a review of 14 (Fields), but I may not have handled the paperwork
properly. I did not have an account on Authors when I volunteered. I noted
three things in my review:

1. A date field was inserted that looked like a mistake. I believe Sophie
confirmed it was an error and said she would remove it.
2. I noted that the keyboard shortcuts did not work for me. My guess is
that it is a KDE problem. Tom, I thought you were going to confirm this,
but I am comfortable with what I found at this point. The questions here is
whether the Guide should say anything about this. I think Jean or Sophie
needs to make that call.
3. I could not make sense of the section on Conditionals. I could click the
buttons and get similar screen shots, but I could not understand exactly
what it was supposed to be doing. I can give ti a try again this weekend,
but I think this is a section that should be rewritten since it is not at
all clear what it is doing. Tom you suggested that would be a good idea,
but for a later version of the guide. I will keep this idea on my todo list
if that is agreeable to everyone, and see how to offer a rewrite for a
future version.

So, I did a review of Ch.14 with the above results, but I did not formally
do a check-out of the chapter. What should I do now to move this forward? I
now have my Authors account so I can log in and do whatever is needed.

Thanks,



On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 3:58 AM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi :)
 I am not sure but i think someone, KO(?), is working on Chapter 14

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UserGuideTasks#Status_of_tasks_-_WG_-_LO_v4.2

 I'm even less sure about Chapter 15, Forms.  Peter Goggin expressed
 interest just before he vanished.  So he might be working on it already or
 might have been distracted by having to sort out his email-client or ISP or
 something.

 So if 2 people here could take on one of the 2 other chapters;
 12, Table of Contents, Indexes
 Appendix A, Shortcuts
 then that would be great.

 I had a little go at reviewing Shortcut, i mean how hard could that be?!
 Once again i found myself running into problems that none of the rest of
 you seem to find at all difficult.  I could try blaming Ubuntu or my
 install on Ubuntu or that my ham-fisted use of LibreOffice over the years
 has messed up the tool-bars and stuff so much that it's difficult to see
 what's going on.  Really though i just don't know how you folks manage to
 do it at all, let alone to make it look so easy.

 Regards from
 Tom :)


 On 25 September 2014 07:44, K-J LibreOffice k...@libreoffice.org wrote:

  Hi all,
  Am 18.09.2014 um 08:17 schrieb Jean Weber:
 
  Where is everyone? Is no one willing or available to review anything?
  If not, then I'll just publish them as is. Quality assurance on
  documentation is desirable, but if we hang around indefinitely waiting
  for people, it means nothing gets published.
 
  Chapters are here:
  http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/writer-guide/drafts-v4.2/
 
 
  We have three chapters to do:
 
  12 TOCS, Indexes
  15 Forms
  A Shortcuts
 
  https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/
  UserGuideTasks#Writer_Guide
 
  Who takes care of one of them?
 
  Does anybody know about chapter 14?
 
 
 
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Five chapters of Writer 4.2 Guide awaiting review

2014-09-21 Thread Kevin O'Brien
I'm going to come back to it, but I agree a bit of re-writing is probably
in order. But I can't do that until I can understand what it is trying to
do.

Other than the two things mentioned, the only thing I noted was a date
field that to me made no sense on page 9. Who can I ask about this, in case
it does actually make sense and I could not see it? I responded to an
e-mail by Jean, but I gather Sophie may have a role, and I am not entirely
clear yet.

Thanks,




On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 7:31 PM, Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 Hi :)
 Yes, i saw the email from Nino.  It makes a lot of sense.

 I've no idea how documentation would handle something like this.  Perhaps
 in
 a coloured box?  or in the Preface or Intro (as Mac 's are handled)?

 If you can't make sense of a section then maybe it needs a bit of
 re-writing?  That'd have to wait until the next version.  On the other hand
 maybe it's just time you took a break, or read on past the section and then
 return to it later?
 Regards from
 Tom :)



 Kevin O'Brien-2 wrote
  It was from the repos. I only download from the website on Windows.
 
  I see that Nino Novak is saying that the KDE desktop is intercepting the
  calls, which certainly fits what I am seeing. If so, there is nothing to
  be
  done except possibly adding an explanatory note in the documentation, but
  that is not my call, and in any case you should probably confirm what I
 am
  seeing.
 
  I'm still trying to figure out the conditional content. I have gone over
  it
  about 20 times and somehow it isn't clicking for me. I can do the steps,
  but somehow the part about triggering the choice/condition is just isn't
  making nay sense to me.
  g
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 Nino wrote
  Kevin,
 
  AFAIK in KDE Ctrl+Fx brings up Desktop #X - so these keys are intercepted
  by
  the OS and not passed through to the application (i.e. LibreOffice).
 
  (If you learn how to disable temporarily this interception I'd like to
  know
  it as I have been googling it several times but did never find a working
  solution)
 
  Regards,
  Nino





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Five chapters of Writer 4.2 Guide awaiting review

2014-09-20 Thread Kevin O'Brien
Writer Chapter 14 - Fields

I have run into something that looks like a problem, but on Page 17,
Keyboard Shortcuts, I am not getting that working on any machine with KDE
(in this case, Kubuntu 14.04). On Windows and Ubuntu 14.04 they seem to
work fine. Ctrl+F2 should bring up the Insert Fields window, but it isn't
doing that. Should I ignore this? Is it unique to me?

Regards,




On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com wrote:

 I am downloading 14 right now. I'll get that done in the next few days.

 Regards,



 On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:

 Where is everyone? Is no one willing or available to review anything?
 If not, then I'll just publish them as is. Quality assurance on
 documentation is desirable, but if we hang around indefinitely waiting
 for people, it means nothing gets published.

 Chapters are here:
 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/writer-guide/drafts-v4.2/

 We haven't heard from JohnS in over 2 months, so I'll go through the
 chapter (number 12) that he had checked out; I've changed the status
 on the Tasks page. That will be the last one to complete this book.
 (And I do hope John's okay.)

 No, I'm not going to spend my time trying to find other people to do
 the reviewing work. This list has a lot of people on it. If everyone's
 too busy, that's understandable. If you're waiting for a personal
 invitation, someone else will have to fill that role.

 If you're not sure what reviewing is, read Chapter 2 of the
 Contributors Guide, here:

 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development#Contributors_Guide

 Note that you do NOT need to be any kind of technical expert -- what
 you do need is to follow the instructions in the chapter and see if
 they make sense and if the illustrations match the program and the
 text. Big deal, eh? It would be nice if you also correct any errors
 you find, but the most important thing is to identify the errors.

 You do NOT need an ODFAuthors login to download these files; I've made
 them available to all. You do need a login to upload any amended
 files, or you can send them directly to me and I'll upload them. If
 you don't want to amend files, you can send an email to the list
 itemising what you've found.

 --Jean

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[libreoffice-documentation] Request ODF Authors account

2014-09-20 Thread Kevin O'Brien
I think I need an account to facilitate helping out. I do the LibreOffice
podcasts on Hacker Public Radio and speak on LibreOffice at various Open
Source events in the area, so I have some knowledge on the subject. But
there are plenty of people who know more than I do. I learn more every
day.g

I just volunteered to review Chapter 14 of the Writer guide when Jean asked
for help.

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Five chapters of Writer 4.2 Guide awaiting review

2014-09-20 Thread Kevin O'Brien
It was from the repos. I only download from the website on Windows.

I see that Nino Novak is saying that the KDE desktop is intercepting the
calls, which certainly fits what I am seeing. If so, there is nothing to be
done except possibly adding an explanatory note in the documentation, but
that is not my call, and in any case you should probably confirm what I am
seeing.

I'm still trying to figure out the conditional content. I have gone over it
about 20 times and somehow it isn't clicking for me. I can do the steps,
but somehow the part about triggering the choice/condition is just isn't
making nay sense to me.g

Regards,


On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 5:28 PM, Tom Davies tomc...@gmail.com wrote:

 HI :)
 I cant get to a KDE desktop until Monday and even then it's the same one
 you are using, ie Kubuntu 14.04

 Just out of curiosity was that LO pre-installed (or from the repos) or did
 you download it from the LibreOffice website?  My work's reception machine
 has the one from the LibreOffice website.

 Regards from
 Tom :)



 On 20 September 2014 21:11, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com wrote:

 Writer Chapter 14 - Fields

 I have run into something that looks like a problem, but on Page 17,
 Keyboard Shortcuts, I am not getting that working on any machine with KDE
 (in this case, Kubuntu 14.04). On Windows and Ubuntu 14.04 they seem to
 work fine. Ctrl+F2 should bring up the Insert Fields window, but it isn't
 doing that. Should I ignore this? Is it unique to me?

 Regards,




 On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:00 AM, Kevin O'Brien zwiln...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I am downloading 14 right now. I'll get that done in the next few days.
 
  Regards,
 
 
 
  On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 2:17 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  Where is everyone? Is no one willing or available to review anything?
  If not, then I'll just publish them as is. Quality assurance on
  documentation is desirable, but if we hang around indefinitely waiting
  for people, it means nothing gets published.
 
  Chapters are here:
 
 http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/writer-guide/drafts-v4.2/
 
  We haven't heard from JohnS in over 2 months, so I'll go through the
  chapter (number 12) that he had checked out; I've changed the status
  on the Tasks page. That will be the last one to complete this book.
  (And I do hope John's okay.)
 
  No, I'm not going to spend my time trying to find other people to do
  the reviewing work. This list has a lot of people on it. If everyone's
  too busy, that's understandable. If you're waiting for a personal
  invitation, someone else will have to fill that role.
 
  If you're not sure what reviewing is, read Chapter 2 of the
  Contributors Guide, here:
 
 
 https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development#Contributors_Guide
 
  Note that you do NOT need to be any kind of technical expert -- what
  you do need is to follow the instructions in the chapter and see if
  they make sense and if the illustrations match the program and the
  text. Big deal, eh? It would be nice if you also correct any errors
  you find, but the most important thing is to identify the errors.
 
  You do NOT need an ODFAuthors login to download these files; I've made
  them available to all. You do need a login to upload any amended
  files, or you can send them directly to me and I'll upload them. If
  you don't want to amend files, you can send an email to the list
  itemising what you've found.
 
  --Jean
 
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