Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Need of a documentation framework for LibreOffice?

2010-10-31 Thread Mark Morin


On 10/31/2010 4:43 PM, Andreas Mantke wrote:
> Hi Marc
> 
> Am Sonntag, 31. Oktober 2010, 20:26:35 schrieb Marc Paré:
> (...)
> 
>>
>> You can find the Drupal test-site at:  http://www.parEntreprise.ca
>>
> 
> i found it.
> 
>> I have created 5 accounts:
>> Login/pswrds are the same words
>>
>> LibO1
>> LibO2
>> LibO3
>> LibO4
>> LibO5
> 
> I tried to get inside, but there was no success. Maybe i'm a bit sleepy. I 
> tried with 
> user: libO1 and password = user name. The same with libO5.


Cut what he posted i.e. capital L, i,b, capital OH, 1 (LibO1) and paste
into username and password

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: LibreOffice Branding and Documentation

2010-11-06 Thread Mark Morin
On 11/05/2010 11:14 PM, Jeff Prater wrote:
> After spending 5-10 minutes searching the Internet for Windows font limits,
> I was not able to find anything other than some older forum posts. I was
> hoping to find something from Microsoft's website.

I had over 10,000 on my XP box and never had a problem


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] High resolution copy of Libo book

2011-09-19 Thread Mark Morin
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On 9/19/2011 8:25 AM, Danishka Navin wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Tom Davies
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hi :) I think that selling it is fine.
>> 
>> Have the printers tried printing a page that has images such as 
>> screen-shots?  That would give us a good idea of whether the
>> picture resolution needs to be improved or not.  It would be a
>> good for us to get feedback about that anyway.
>> 
> 
> One of project officer ask for high resolution copy but I am not
> aware of what the press feedback.

If 500 copies are going to be printed, I assume that it will be on a
traditional printing press. When it comes to printing this way, high
resolution photos usually have to be scaled back to 192 or even 72
dpi. It all depends on the screen of the printer. If you take an image
that is 300 dpi and print it on a press that is only capable of 150
dpi, the image will be twice as large as the original.

It is best to get the specs of the printer before trying to get high
resolution graphics. A more practical question is, are the graphics
saved in such a way to support the three color separation that is used
in printing presses. This can probably be managed by importing the
original LibO documents into InDesign or some other layout program.
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writer Guide; Chapter 4 - Formatting pages.

2012-02-10 Thread Mark Morin

I get the same thing on windows 7 as well as ubuntu 11.1--both running
version 3.4.4 build 402.

It appears that when you hit "apply" the display changes all the
values to be a function of "maximum footnote height." That would not
be a problem except for the fact that when you click "apply," the
reference point for height changes from the distance from the bottom
of the page to the distance the text area has to be adjusted to allow
for that original height.
It is quite possible that the same calculations are done when you
click "OK" but when you re-edit the values after seeing those strange
numbers, you what you expect to see.
In short, it appears that those strange numbers are the software's
internal calculations and serves no useful purpose to the user except
to confuse him or her.

mark
(a lurker and occasional participant)





On 2/10/2012 11:30 AM, John Smith wrote:
> Hi I am close to finishing updating this chapter, but have run into
> a problem and am unsure of the protocol. I was about to write the
> instructions for formatting footnotes/endnotes when I encountered
> the problem. To replicate, have a single sheet document with lots
> of paragraphs in it (blank or otherwise). Insert a footnote into
> the page:  "Insert > footnote/endnote". Click "OK" in the next
> dialogue box, accepting the default settings. Scroll down to have
> the footnote in view. Now edit the footnote. There are a number of
> ways to get here, but the quickest is to right-click in the page
> and then select "Page" from the context menu. Select the 'Footnote'
> tab. There are two sections to this page; 'Footnote area' and
> 'Separator line'.
> 
> To demonstrate the behaviour, change either, or both, the 'Space
> to text' dimension in the 'Footnote area' section, and/or the
> 'Spacing to footnote contents' dimension in the 'Separator line'
> section.
> 
> Now, if you click "OK", the settings on screen change when the
> dialogue box exits. That's fine. Re-edit, 'right-click > Page'. 
> Change dimensions again, this time, click "Apply". As expected,
> the changes are executed on screen and the dialogue box stays
> open. But ... The dimensions in the dialogue box now change. 1.
> If you click "OK" to exit, these newer altered dimensions are 
> applied. 2.You cannot, having clicked "Apply", change the
> dimensions to anything meaningful. 3.You can exit, having
> pressed "Apply", by clicking "Cancel" and having the changes which
> occurred on "Apply" remain in place. 4.Having pressed "Apply",
> you can then press "Reset", re-do the settings, and then click "OK"
> to exit.
> 
> There are a number of possibilities here I guess. 1. I'm doing
> something wrong. 2. There's something wrong with my set-up. 3.
> There's a problem with the Windows version (if it works correctly
> in other OS's) 4. There's a problem with the software.
> 
> So, if someone else can validate my experience, should I write it
> to instruct on how to do it trouble free, including what shouldn't
> be done? Is this a bug, or just aberrant behaviour that needs no
> further action?. If a bug, what next? Write it warning of this
> bug?
> 
> Advice would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> John
> 

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[libreoffice-documentation] bug in base?

2012-02-18 Thread Mark Morin
apologies if this is not the correct place to put this.
In the current version (3.5) when I go to connect with an existing MySql
database, I do the normal setup (naming the database, host, port, etc.).
A connection to the server is made. The Base GUI comes up and all of my
MySql databases are listed (and usable) in the "Tables" section. In
previous versions (3.4 anyway) just the database I connected to comes
up. It isn't the biggest of deals but if all the databases are going to
get loaded, what is the point of identifying which database you want to
connect to?

mark


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LO Media Player

2012-02-26 Thread Mark Morin
Thanks. webm didn't work for me. My next step was to try ogg (and mkv
is a new one for me)
m

On 2/26/2012 6:32 PM, Jay Lozier wrote:
> On 02/26/2012 05:59 PM, Mark Morin wrote:
>> Does anyone know what the preferred format for video files is
>> with the LO media player? I've tried most every format I can
>> think of and keep getting "incompatible file type"
>> 
>> mark
> 
> I tested the following successfully webm, ogg, and mkv formats. The
> mp4 gave audio without any video.


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc 3.4

2012-04-19 Thread Mark Morin
On 4/19/2012 7:39 PM, Dan Lewis wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 00:05 +0100, John Smith wrote:
>> Hi I wonder if someone with a non-Windows OS could check
>> something for me? Could you open a new Calc document, put the
>> focus other than A1 and then press Alt+Up arrow, and then after
>> that, Alt+Down Arrow. It's supposed to change the row height in
>> the direction of the arrow.
>> 
>> Neither 3.4.6 on my Win XP, nor 3.5.2 on a Win 7 system does
>> this.
>> 
>> Alt plus left/right arrows alters the column width on both
>> machines ok. No problem there.
>> 
>> Thanks John

same thing running Fedora 16 using lo 3.4.5
mark

>> 
> 
> I use Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit with LO versions from the LO website. I
> get the same results as you have for LO 3.4.6 AND 3.5.2. A change
> in the text perhaps?
> 
> --Dan
> 
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 3 Draw, request

2012-05-07 Thread Mark Morin
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On 5/7/2012 5:20 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> 
> Tom Davies schrieb:
>> Hi :) For 2 would it help to just edit an existing menu or create
>> a custom-made one (or few)? Tools - Customise
> 
> The question was about making a tool sticky.
> 
>> 
>> For 1 would Gimp be a better tool for this sort of work?  I'm not
>> sure that Draw is really meant to be an alternative to Photoshop.
>> Gimp handles layers quite well http://www.gimp.org/
> 
> No, Gimp is for raster graphics, Draw is for vector graphics.

I don't have Draw in my linux repo but Inkscape open source equivalent
to Illustrator.

mark

> 
> Kind regards Regina
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice 3 Draw, request

2012-05-08 Thread Mark Morin

On 5/7/2012 5:20 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:
> Hi Tom,
>
> Tom Davies schrieb:
>> Hi :) For 2 would it help to just edit an existing menu or create
>> a custom-made one (or few)? Tools - Customise
>
> The question was about making a tool sticky.
>
>>
>> For 1 would Gimp be a better tool for this sort of work?  I'm not
>> sure that Draw is really meant to be an alternative to Photoshop.
>> Gimp handles layers quite well http://www.gimp.org/
>
> No, Gimp is for raster graphics, Draw is for vector graphics.

oops,
i've been up to my eyebrows with graphic design using photoshop/gimp or
illustrator/inkscape that the simple and obvious slipped right by me.


I don't have Draw in my linux repo but Inkscape open source equivalent
to Illustrator.

mark

>
> Kind regards Regina
>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] chapter 1

2013-09-13 Thread Mark Morin
maybe it's just me but the following really complicates things.

On 9/13/2013 11:37 AM, donwelty wrote:
> I have 
> a tendency to edit most everything I read at least subconsciously. 
>  In part, I also wanted to 
> make sure that the objective is to produce a better document rather than to 
> mollify egos.  In part, I wanted to demonstrate my legitimacy as a 
> writer editor.   Is there configuration management to control the 
> day-to-day changes? style="margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;"> T-Mobile. America's 
> First Nationwide 4G Network.-- Original message 
> --From: Tom Davies 
> Date: 09/13/2013 
> 03:27To: Jean Weber;Don 
> Welty;Cc: documentation@global.libreoffice.org;Subject:Re:
>  [libreoffice-documentation] chapter 1Hi :)
> I agree with most of that except
>
> 1.  Most non-mathematicians seem to mean xor when they say 
> "or".  So for most people "A or B" excludes "A 
> and B" happening a the same time.  
> 2.  without spaces on both side of  "/" it makes things a 
> little cramped and difficult to read.  Also does;
> Technical writers’/power users’
> mean 
> writers’/power
> so that writers and power are interchangeable there or should 
> "Technical writers"
> be put in speech marks or something to keep the 2 words together and 
> similarly with "Power users"?  I think it might be best to 
> swap out the / and replace with an "or" or an "and/or" 
>  
>
> However, one of the advantages with wiki-editing is that 
> 1.  People are free to re-edit later
> 2.  you can experiment and if it looks right then keep it, there is even 
> a "preview" option that can help with experimentation
> 3.  people can look at the history to see changes and see how things are 
> developing
>
> So, i think just "go for it".  All your ideas have merit and 
> almost all are things i either agree with or don't mind either way.  So 
> it's almost always an improvement imo.  As Jean says, go for it :)  
> Regards from 
> Tom :)  
>
>
>
>
> 
>  From: Jean Weber 
> To: Don Welty  
> Cc: 
> "documentation@global.libreoffice.org" 
>  
> Sent: Friday, 13 September 2013, 5:03
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] chapter 1
>  
>
> Don,
> You can get an account on the wiki and fix things yourself. I encourage you 
> to do so. Otherwise, it's unlikely to get done because no one has time to do 
> it. For me at least, it's a much lower priority than fixing the documents 
> made available to users. So I am always delighted when someone else does the 
> job. Please? Many thanks if you will!
>
> --Jean
>
> On 13/09/2013, at 9:57, Don Welty  wrote:
>
> > Please consider the following suggestions:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > This
> > document is Copyright © 2012 by its contributors as listed below. 
> You may distribute it
> > and/or modify it under the terms of the Creative Commons
> > Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported license
> > (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/),
> > version 3.0 or later.
> > The "and/" should be deleted since it does not add anything 
> and is basically useless.  In a law document, it is useless.
> > 
> > The phrase "A and B" excludes all else and means 
>   "both A and B".  The phrase "A or B" is 
> inclusive and means, A, B, or both A and B. 
> > Who we
> > are and what we do
> > The
> > LibreOffice Documentation team is a group of volunteers who strive to
> > provide high quality guides for LibreOffice users and developers. You
> > can become part of the Documentation team by contributing to one or
> > more of our many projects. No matter what your level of experience
> > is, you can make a valuable contribution.
> > 
> > If you wish to imply that the group succeeds in writing high quality 
> guides, take out strive.
> > 
> > Also, the word "provide" is an overused word that is 
> imprecise.  Use "produce" instead.
> > 
> > Examples
> > of current projects:
> >    * User guides
> >    * Tutorials and how-tos
> >    * Blog
> >    * Quick reference cards
> >    * Assist with writing and editing as requested by 
> Website and Help teams
> > Examples
> > of planned projects:
> >    * Administrators’ guide
> >    * BASIC Programmers’ guide
> >    * Technical writers’ / power users’ guide
> > 
> > 
> > There should be no space before or after the  "/"
> > 
> > The words "Examples of" do not add anything, are imprecise and 
> should be deleted.,
> > 
> > Some
> > tasks can be quickly and easily without extra logins, much knowledge
> > of LibreOffice, or a lot of time or long-term commitment. These are
> > described on the Easy
> > Hacks page of the wiki and later in this chapter.
> > 
> > Two problems here, passive and no verb.  Rewrite as:
> > Some tasks do not require extra logins.  . . .   These 
> tasks are . . . .
> > 
> > 
> >    * Mailing list – Most of our day-to-day 
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] chapter 1

2013-09-13 Thread Mark Morin
On 9/12/2013 7:57 PM, Don Welty wrote:
> Please consider the following suggestions:
>
> This
> document is Copyright © 2012 by its contributors as listed below. You may 
> distribute it
> and/or modify it under the terms of the Creative Commons 
> Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported license 
> (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/), version 3.0 or later.
> The "and/" should be deleted since it does not add anything and is basically 
> useless.  In a law document, it is useless.

My first reaction was to think, "yes, style guides have always
instructed to avoid 'and/or'." Then I looked at the current edition of
the APA Style guide (the one applicable to my own work) and found that
there had been a change in recommendations since the edition I had on my
shelf.

> The phrase "A and B" excludes all else and means   "both A and B".  The 
> phrase "A or B" is inclusive and means, A, B, or both A and B. Who we are and 
> what we do
> The
> LibreOffice Documentation team is a group of volunteers who strive to
> provide high quality guides for LibreOffice users and developers. You
> can become part of the Documentation team by contributing to one or
> more of our many projects. No matter what your level of experience
> is, you can make a valuable contribution.
>
> If you wish to imply that the group succeeds in writing high quality guides, 
> take out strive.

Just my two cents but the documents are collectively produced by (not
provided) by a large number of individuals with varying degrees of
expertise in technical writing. My sense is that most individuals are
trying to communicate some complex ideas in a way that can be understood
by anyone who picks up the document. Individuals can succeed in writing
high quality documents (the word "succeed" referring to "writing") but
the quality of the content, how understandable (I know that's not a
proper word) it is to people of different backgrounds--that's not as
easy to evaluate as the quality of the writing. In light of that, it
makes sense to me to say that the team strives to provide high quality work.

> Also, the word "provide" is an overused word that is imprecise.  Use 
> "produce" instead.

Once the documents are produced, they are provided to the community.
Perhaps the word choice should be "to" versus "produced."

> Examples of current projects:
>   * User guides
>   * Tutorials and how-tos
>   * Blog
>   * Quick reference cards
>   * Assist with writing and editing as requested by Website and Help teams
> Examples of planned projects:
>   * Administrators’ guide
>   * BASIC Programmers’ guide
>   * Technical writers’ / power users’ guide
>
>
> There should be no space before or after the  "/"

Formatting wise, the spaces come in handy.

> The words "Examples of" do not add anything, are imprecise and should be 
> deleted.,

Actually, they do add something. Without the words you have a closed
group (guides, tutorials, etc.). With the words, you have a subset of a
larger group yet to be defined. This gives the message that if there is
a subject, not on that list, that someone would like to take on as a
project, it would become part of that list.

As noted, you are free to go in and make any changes yourself but don't
be surprised if someone comes in after you and corrects your changes.


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide?

2013-10-16 Thread Mark Morin
Tell me how to access the document and I'll give it a shot.
mark

On 10/16/2013 5:13 AM, Jean Weber wrote:
> Work on the Calc Guide seems to have stalled, or gone into the "very,
> very slow going" category for those chapters that I'm aware are being
> worked on. We need people to take Chapter 14 and Appendix C. Both
> should be fairly easy to check. If you have problems with replacing
> screenshots in Ch14, just mark which ones need replacement, and make
> any necessary changes to the text.
>
> Would really be nice to get this book done this year, don't you think?
>
> --Jean
>


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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide--Customizing Calc (checking in)

2013-10-31 Thread Mark Morin
Checking in,
I was aiming for the end of the month (October) but it's going to be a
few more days. It was a little more involved than I had anticipated.
Mark
PS Happy Halloween everyone!


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[libreoffice-documentation] Calc Guide Chapter 14 -- Customizing Calc

2013-11-06 Thread Mark Morin
I have uploaded a draft of this chapter along with all the graphics I 
used zipped into one file (as well as embedded into the document).

http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/calc-guide/draft-lo4.1
Have loads of fun with it; I sure did.

Jean--I was pretty close in my time estimate in getting it uploaded 
(just about midnight).


mark

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Help re digital signatures?

2013-12-17 Thread Mark Morin

Hi Peter,
You will need to have either mozilla firefox or thunderbird installed. 
Certificates are under options -> advanced -> certificates -> view 
certificates -> import. Import the certificate that you saved.
In LO select Tools -> Options -> Security -> Certificate path and select 
either thunderbird or firefox as the certificate store.
To sign a document select File -> Document Signatures and then select 
the certificate you wish to use for signing.


On 12/17/2013 3:59 AM, PeeWee wrote:

I think what is required is for somebody who has a digital signature to write
the procedure for using a digital signature and installing a digital
certificate onto a computer. This installation of a digital certificate onto
a computer does have to be very generic because of different setups and
operating systems.

I also suggest that whoever writes the procedure uses a computer with Ubuntu
installed using the Radiance theme. That way screen shots taken would match
Chapter 6 in the Calc Guide. The alternative is to tell me how to install a
digital certificate on an Ubuntu operating system so that I can write the
procedure. I do have access to the free CA Cert Signing Authority
certificate.

With regards

PeterS





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Handbook Chapter 8 -Database tasks

2014-10-12 Thread Mark Morin

Most mail clients will have a "mail to list" option.

On 10/12/2014 6:44 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
The mailing lists have been carefully set-up so that most emailers need to
use "Reply to all" in order to reply to the mailing list at all.  So your
name appears in the "To" or "CC" field.

Some emailers automatically (or can be set to) filter out duplicates but
not all allow it.

My guess is that you get this message twice?  If so it might be worth
poking around your emailer to see if it lets you filter duplicates.
Regards from
Tom :)



On 12 October 2014 08:39, Robert Großkopf 
wrote:


Hi Peter,

I am reading this mailing-list. You are writing the same content to me
an to the mailing-list. Some other people do the same. Don't know why ...




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[libreoffice-documentation] hi

2014-12-26 Thread mark morin
http://best-taste.ru/himself.php?4neoiyb0gwgk4r9

















mdmpsyd
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Is that a bottle of Windex in your pants, because I can see myself in them?

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] from: mdmpsyd

2015-06-07 Thread Mark Morin

Sorry, hacked.  Don't even own an iPhone

On 6/6/2015 9:01 PM, mdmpsyd wrote:

Good morning Documentation



http://fastburningbellyfat.com/access.php?beyond=magh79zp3ksds1





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Sent from my iPhone





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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Writter - Help for Track change

2017-02-27 Thread Mark Morin
Did you download and install the help file? You can find it in the same
place you downloaded 5.3.


On 2/27/2017 4:53 PM, Andrea Mussap wrote:
> Hi all
> I was testing "[Bug 106218] Compare documents results in an extra paragraph 
> at the end of the file", and for that I needed information about the 'Track 
> change' funcionality.
> So I consulted the Help online page 
> (https://help.libreoffice.org/5.3/Common/Help), and and I've searched for 
> 'Track change'. But I couldn't find many info about it in the result page 
> (https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Track_Changes )
>
> So, can you tell me if I'm searching in the right place?
> BRAndrea Mussap.
>
>
>
>
>
>



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Find & replace attributes not working

2020-04-13 Thread Mark Morin
Font, font color and a lot of others can be found by selecting what you
want replaced clicking on the FORMAT button and then selecting the
formatting of the selected text that you are looking for. In the replace
field, enter the text you want to use as the replacement, click FORMAT
and select the formatting you want for that text.

For some reason ATTRIBUTES is only available for the field that you want
replaced--making it rather useless.

On 4/13/2020 8:45 AM, Toni B wrote:
> Hello Team,
>
> I am reviewing *Writer Chapter 3 Working with Text Advanced*..  Under 
> *Advanced
> find and replace techniques -->  **Find and replace text attributes and
> formatting, *I am unable to search for attributes such as *Font *or *Font
> color*.  Nothing appears in the *Find *box to select.
> For example, following these steps below, no options appear under the *Find*
> box to choose from:
>
>
>1.
>
>On the *Find & Replace* dialog (with *Other Options* displayed), click
>the *Attributes* button.
>2.
>
>Select the attribute you wish to search for from the list in the
>Attributes dialog and click *OK*. The names of the selected attributes
>appear under the *Find:* box. For example, to search for text that has
>been changed from the default font color, select the *Font Color*
>attribute.
>
> I am using LibreOffice Writer version 6.4.2.2 on a Windows 10 PC,  Is
> anyone else able to get this working?
>
> Thank you!
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Toni
>


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] LibreOffice print

2020-06-03 Thread Mark Morin
I'm not seeing the post to which you are responding so apologies for
replying to the wrong person.

If what is wanted is professional looking brochures, I'm assuming that
you are talking about a combination of text and graphics. Scribus would
be a more appropriate tool for this. You will have much finer control
over formatting and layout. The comparable Adobe product is InDesign.


On 6/3/2020 12:49 AM, Alan B wrote:
> Not familiar with "printing professional quality brochures". However, as
> far as I know, a PDF is a PDF in that sense that if the file conforms to
> the standard then it can be used for any purpose intended for a PDF. A
> printer would most likely want a PDF/A since that must be a self contained
> document. Draw exports PDF/A.
>
> Don't know about the "quality" of the PDF. I expect would be based on two
> things, the source program's internal representations of the objects to
> print and the PDF printer's fidelity rendering them.
>
> Mac does print to PDF. Check bottom left of printer selection dialog for
> "PDF" button.
>
> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 9:42 PM Prem Nath  wrote:
>
>> Hi, and so many thanks for replying.
>> Was actually asking wondering those PDFs would be good enough for printing
>> professional quality brochures and such.
>> Adobe is prohibitively expensive, for casual users.
>> Am on a Mac.
>>
>> On 03-Jun-2020, at 6:59 AM, Alan B  wrote:
>>
>> 
>> LibreOffice Draw has a menu option File>Export as PDF..., so yes it can.
>>
>> Also, if you're using Windows 10 it has it's own built-in PDF printer.
>> Select "Microsoft Print to PDF" as the printer and it will produce a PDF of
>> the document.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 2, 2020 at 2:39 PM Prem Nath  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, am coming from this link, apologies if this is the wrong email to
>>> contact.
>>>
>>> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/images/c/cd/How-to-create-posters-Draw.pdf
>>> Just wanted to know if the LibreOffice Draw file discussed in the link
>>> can create print quality PDFs, or is there no option but to use Adobe.
>>> The document discusses this partially and also mentions Adobe.
>>> Unsure.
>>> Thanks!
>>>
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Calc's Z-test tool

2020-09-01 Thread Mark Morin
Variance can't be zero for analysis of variance tests (t test, F test,
etc). Statistical testing assumes that you have variance otherwise you
really wouldn't need a test.

On 9/1/2020 4:48 PM, Ilmari Lauhakangas wrote:
> I was looking at a bug report again:
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=132983
>
> The reporter is scratching their head over the "division by zero"
> result for z.
>
> From what I can see, the "Known variance" values can't both be zero,
> if you want to avoid the #DIV/0! results. You have to give at least
> one of them a positive non-zero value.
>
> Now, looking at Help:
> https://help.libreoffice.org/7.1/en-US/text/scalc/01/statistics_test_z.html
>
>
> and the Calc guide chapter CG7009-DataAnalysis-SF-12Aug2020, we see
> this same "division by zero" result and the reader is left holding it.
>
> How to present this better in the docs? I have no experience on the
> topic, but I hope we can find some statistician to shed light on this!
>
> Ilmari
>

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