Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual
Jean On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 08:02 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 07:34 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > > On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 16:39 -0400, planas wrote: > > > Rogerio > > > > > > On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 14:33 -0300, Rogerio Luz Coelho wrote: > > > > > > > Please be more specific, the Base "chapter" of Getting Started? > > > > > > > > Or Chapter 1 of the Base manual ? > > > > > > > > Which file are you working on? > > > > > > > > On Alfresco or ODFAuhors ? > > > > > > > > Sorry, but until someone shows me a way to organize this mess these > > > > questions must be answered firts :) > > > > > > > > Rogerio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2011/5/14 planas > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > I have started on working on the Base Manual. > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Jay Lozier > > > > > jsloz...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have started with chapter 1 on Alfresco. > > > -- > > > Jay Lozier > > > jsloz...@gmail.com > > > > > > > Rogerio, > > > > To elaborate a bit on Jay's answer: I had put the first four chapters of > > the draft OOo Base Guide on Alfresco (English Content > Documentation > > > Base Guide > Drafts). I assume that's what Jay is referring to. > > > > However, I don't see any of those chapters checked out. The Base Guide > > Outline is checked out, but as far as I can tell by someone else, not > > Jay. > > > > --Jean > > > > More info, which may be of interest to anyone working on the LibO Base > Guide: Dan Lewis, the primary author of the OOo Base Guide, is rewriting > chapter 1 of that book and expects to have his revision on the > ODFAuthors site soon. > > --Jean > > Thanks for the update. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual
Jean On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 07:34 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 16:39 -0400, planas wrote: > > Rogerio > > > > On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 14:33 -0300, Rogerio Luz Coelho wrote: > > > > > Please be more specific, the Base "chapter" of Getting Started? > > > > > > Or Chapter 1 of the Base manual ? > > > > > > Which file are you working on? > > > > > > On Alfresco or ODFAuhors ? > > > > > > Sorry, but until someone shows me a way to organize this mess these > > > questions must be answered firts :) > > > > > > Rogerio > > > > > > > > > > > > 2011/5/14 planas > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I have started on working on the Base Manual. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jay Lozier > > > > jsloz...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > I have started with chapter 1 on Alfresco. > > -- > > Jay Lozier > > jsloz...@gmail.com > > > > Rogerio, > > To elaborate a bit on Jay's answer: I had put the first four chapters of > the draft OOo Base Guide on Alfresco (English Content > Documentation > > Base Guide > Drafts). I assume that's what Jay is referring to. > > However, I don't see any of those chapters checked out. The Base Guide > Outline is checked out, but as far as I can tell by someone else, not > Jay. > > --Jean > > > I forgot to check them out, I am currently working on the Chapter 1. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual
On Sun, 2011-05-22 at 07:34 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 16:39 -0400, planas wrote: > > Rogerio > > > > On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 14:33 -0300, Rogerio Luz Coelho wrote: > > > > > Please be more specific, the Base "chapter" of Getting Started? > > > > > > Or Chapter 1 of the Base manual ? > > > > > > Which file are you working on? > > > > > > On Alfresco or ODFAuhors ? > > > > > > Sorry, but until someone shows me a way to organize this mess these > > > questions must be answered firts :) > > > > > > Rogerio > > > > > > > > > > > > 2011/5/14 planas > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > I have started on working on the Base Manual. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Jay Lozier > > > > jsloz...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > I have started with chapter 1 on Alfresco. > > -- > > Jay Lozier > > jsloz...@gmail.com > > > > Rogerio, > > To elaborate a bit on Jay's answer: I had put the first four chapters of > the draft OOo Base Guide on Alfresco (English Content > Documentation > > Base Guide > Drafts). I assume that's what Jay is referring to. > > However, I don't see any of those chapters checked out. The Base Guide > Outline is checked out, but as far as I can tell by someone else, not > Jay. > > --Jean > More info, which may be of interest to anyone working on the LibO Base Guide: Dan Lewis, the primary author of the OOo Base Guide, is rewriting chapter 1 of that book and expects to have his revision on the ODFAuthors site soon. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual
On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 16:39 -0400, planas wrote: > Rogerio > > On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 14:33 -0300, Rogerio Luz Coelho wrote: > > > Please be more specific, the Base "chapter" of Getting Started? > > > > Or Chapter 1 of the Base manual ? > > > > Which file are you working on? > > > > On Alfresco or ODFAuhors ? > > > > Sorry, but until someone shows me a way to organize this mess these > > questions must be answered firts :) > > > > Rogerio > > > > > > > > 2011/5/14 planas > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have started on working on the Base Manual. > > > > > > -- > > > Jay Lozier > > > jsloz...@gmail.com > > > > > > > I have started with chapter 1 on Alfresco. > -- > Jay Lozier > jsloz...@gmail.com > Rogerio, To elaborate a bit on Jay's answer: I had put the first four chapters of the draft OOo Base Guide on Alfresco (English Content > Documentation > Base Guide > Drafts). I assume that's what Jay is referring to. However, I don't see any of those chapters checked out. The Base Guide Outline is checked out, but as far as I can tell by someone else, not Jay. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual
Rogerio On Sat, 2011-05-21 at 14:33 -0300, Rogerio Luz Coelho wrote: > Please be more specific, the Base "chapter" of Getting Started? > > Or Chapter 1 of the Base manual ? > > Which file are you working on? > > On Alfresco or ODFAuhors ? > > Sorry, but until someone shows me a way to organize this mess these > questions must be answered firts :) > > Rogerio > > > > 2011/5/14 planas > > > Hi all, > > > > I have started on working on the Base Manual. > > > > -- > > Jay Lozier > > jsloz...@gmail.com > > > > > > > > -- > > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > > deleted > > > I have started with chapter 1 on Alfresco. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual
Please be more specific, the Base "chapter" of Getting Started? Or Chapter 1 of the Base manual ? Which file are you working on? On Alfresco or ODFAuhors ? Sorry, but until someone shows me a way to organize this mess these questions must be answered firts :) Rogerio 2011/5/14 planas > Hi all, > > I have started on working on the Base Manual. > > -- > Jay Lozier > jsloz...@gmail.com > > > > -- > Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual
Hi all, I have started on working on the Base Manual. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual Design
Hi, On Sun, 2011-05-08 at 18:16 +0200, Nino Novak wrote: > Hi Jay, > > On Sunday 08 May 2011 00:08, planas wrote: > > > In reviewing the OOo base documents I have an idea to use a simple > > tutorial to highlight database concepts. My idea is to make library > > database to show various concepts of the database. > > > > The idea is to show users how a relational database works and how to > > design one by using a simple one. > > > > Is the idea reasonable to everyone? > > Did you search for existing Base tutorials? (Just to be sure not to > reinvent the wheel) > > Maybe it might be worth having a list of available documents in the > wiki? Maybe even with comments/opinions? > > Nino > Thanks for the comments, my idea was closer to Tom's with downloaded stages for each exercise. I am familiar with Northwinds, MS has a good idea for training documents that allow hands on practice. -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual Design
On Sat, 2011-05-07 at 18:08 -0400, planas wrote:
> Hello
>
> In reviewing the OOo base documents I have an idea to use a simple
> tutorial to highlight database concepts. My idea is to make library
> database to show various concepts of the database.
>
> The idea is to show users how a relational database works and how to
> design one by using a simple one.
>
> Is the idea reasonable to everyone?
> --
> Jay Lozier
> jsloz...@gmail.com
>
As I'm sure you've discovered, we have one tutorial on using Base
("Getting Started with Base", Chapter 8 of the Getting Started Guide)
that covers relational database concepts using an example.
I think another tutorial would be useful and good to have, especially if
we post a sample database to go with it. So, my opinion is: go for it!
--Jean
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual Design
Hi :) Good plan. MS Office (but Excel rather than Access) uses a spreadsheet called "NorthWind" occasionally they have a new folder (Exercise1, Exercise2 and so on) in case the person's progress has taken them off-track. Or is that an ECDL course, i don't quite remember fully now. Regards from Tom :) From: planas To: Libreoffice Documentation Sent: Sat, 7 May, 2011 23:08:36 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual Design Hello In reviewing the OOo base documents I have an idea to use a simple tutorial to highlight database concepts. My idea is to make library database to show various concepts of the database. The idea is to show users how a relational database works and how to design one by using a simple one. Is the idea reasonable to everyone? -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual Design
Hi Jay, On Sunday 08 May 2011 00:08, planas wrote: > In reviewing the OOo base documents I have an idea to use a simple > tutorial to highlight database concepts. My idea is to make library > database to show various concepts of the database. > > The idea is to show users how a relational database works and how to > design one by using a simple one. > > Is the idea reasonable to everyone? Did you search for existing Base tutorials? (Just to be sure not to reinvent the wheel) Maybe it might be worth having a list of available documents in the wiki? Maybe even with comments/opinions? Nino -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual Design
Hello In reviewing the OOo base documents I have an idea to use a simple tutorial to highlight database concepts. My idea is to make library database to show various concepts of the database. The idea is to show users how a relational database works and how to design one by using a simple one. Is the idea reasonable to everyone? -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual
Hi :) I don't think any of the Base developers moved over to LO. I think they all stayed with OOo. Perhaps a few might move over this way now. I noticed a few new people helping in the users lists where Base questions previously met with no response (apart from 1 lone voice suggesting they seek answers from OOo forums). So, perhaps thing might develop now, maybe. Regards from Tom :) From: Jean Hollis Weber To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 6 May, 2011 12:51:26 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 07:29 -0400, John Shabanowitz wrote: > I remember someone on this list asking about a Base manual. There is a > "Getting Started with Base" manual on OO.org. It is from 2009. I have a copy > on my computer. I'm not sure how out of date it is. Has Base changed that > much? Is that the chapter from the Getting Started Guide? If so, we have already rebranded it for LO and it's available through the wiki and the website. AFAIK, Base hasn't changed a lot. Possibly some new features in LO? --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual
On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 07:29 -0400, John Shabanowitz wrote: > I remember someone on this list asking about a Base manual. There is a > "Getting Started with Base" manual on OO.org. It is from 2009. I have a copy > on my computer. I'm not sure how out of date it is. Has Base changed that > much? Is that the chapter from the Getting Started Guide? If so, we have already rebranded it for LO and it's available through the wiki and the website. AFAIK, Base hasn't changed a lot. Possibly some new features in LO? --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual
Hi :) Could you upload it to Alfresco? It is likely to be a good start even if there have been changes. There is so little about Base that any help is good. Many thanks and regards from Tom :) From: John Shabanowitz To: documentation@libreoffice.org Sent: Fri, 6 May, 2011 12:29:44 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual I remember someone on this list asking about a Base manual. There is a "Getting Started with Base" manual on OO.org. It is from 2009. I have a copy on my computer. I'm not sure how out of date it is. Has Base changed that much? . -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual
I remember someone on this list asking about a Base manual. There is a "Getting Started with Base" manual on OO.org. It is from 2009. I have a copy on my computer. I'm not sure how out of date it is. Has Base changed that much? . -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual
Jean On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 13:14 +1000, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 16:53 -0400, planas wrote: > > Jean > > > > On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 05:52 +1000, Jean Weber wrote: > > > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2011, planas wrote: > > > > I am planning to put together a Base manual, starting next. > > > > > > That's excellent news! > > > > > > > OO does not > > > > have a current manual that I could find. I will base the manual on OO > > > > information I can find and any other information I can find. > > > > > > There is an outline and 4 draft chapters of a Base Guide for OOo on > > > the ODFAuthors wwbste, which you may fond useful. If you don't have an > > > ODFAuthors account, I can send them to you or post them on Alfresco. > > > > > > > I will post a draft outline next week for comments on Alfresco. > > > > > > See above. Of course you don't have to follow the OOo guide outline. > > > > > > Jean > > > > > > > I do not have ODF Authors account. Please post the information on > > Alfresco. > > > The outline and 4 draft chapters are now available in the English > > Documentation > Base Guide > OOo draft space on Alfresco. > > --Jean > > Thanks, I will look at this weekend (I hope) -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual
On Wed, 2011-04-27 at 16:53 -0400, planas wrote: > Jean > > On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 05:52 +1000, Jean Weber wrote: > > > On Thursday, April 28, 2011, planas wrote: > > > I am planning to put together a Base manual, starting next. > > > > That's excellent news! > > > > > OO does not > > > have a current manual that I could find. I will base the manual on OO > > > information I can find and any other information I can find. > > > > There is an outline and 4 draft chapters of a Base Guide for OOo on > > the ODFAuthors wwbste, which you may fond useful. If you don't have an > > ODFAuthors account, I can send them to you or post them on Alfresco. > > > > > I will post a draft outline next week for comments on Alfresco. > > > > See above. Of course you don't have to follow the OOo guide outline. > > > > Jean > > > > I do not have ODF Authors account. Please post the information on > Alfresco. The outline and 4 draft chapters are now available in the English > Documentation > Base Guide > OOo draft space on Alfresco. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual
Jean On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 05:52 +1000, Jean Weber wrote: > On Thursday, April 28, 2011, planas wrote: > > I am planning to put together a Base manual, starting next. > > That's excellent news! > > > OO does not > > have a current manual that I could find. I will base the manual on OO > > information I can find and any other information I can find. > > There is an outline and 4 draft chapters of a Base Guide for OOo on > the ODFAuthors wwbste, which you may fond useful. If you don't have an > ODFAuthors account, I can send them to you or post them on Alfresco. > > > I will post a draft outline next week for comments on Alfresco. > > See above. Of course you don't have to follow the OOo guide outline. > > Jean > I do not have ODF Authors account. Please post the information on Alfresco. Thanks -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual
On Thursday, April 28, 2011, planas wrote: > I am planning to put together a Base manual, starting next. That's excellent news! > OO does not > have a current manual that I could find. I will base the manual on OO > information I can find and any other information I can find. There is an outline and 4 draft chapters of a Base Guide for OOo on the ODFAuthors wwbste, which you may fond useful. If you don't have an ODFAuthors account, I can send them to you or post them on Alfresco. > I will post a draft outline next week for comments on Alfresco. See above. Of course you don't have to follow the OOo guide outline. Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Base Manual
Hi, I am planning to put together a Base manual, starting next. OO does not have a current manual that I could find. I will base the manual on OO information I can find and any other information I can find. I will post a draft outline next week for comments on Alfresco. Regards -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@libreoffice.org Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
