Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide template
Hello Dave I was just thinking out aloud. Adding Chapter may be a way of improving cross referencing and/or using fields. It needs some thought. Suggested this because I am assembling the Draw Guide ready for publishing. I am coming across a few problems with the referencing. I need to make a list. These problems could template problems. I will let you when I finished the Draw Guide. Regards Peter Schofield Sent from my iPad Mini > On 4 Jun 2020, at 17:37, DaveB wrote: > > Hi Peter, > > At the time of the final revision for the 6.x template we still had a > horribly confusing mix of OOo and LO style naming and the team > contributors agreed that we should stick with the standard names where > possible. Hence, there was no need to add new names like Chapter Title > and Chapter Subtitle, when the existing standard Title and Subtitle > styles could simply be modified to the documentation requirements. > > I see the use of existing style name as being less confusing, > particularly for new contributors. Do you feel there would be any > advantage in adding new style names and asking contributors to use those > instead of the existing standard styles modified to the documentation > requirements. > > Regards > Dave > >> On 04/06/2020 16:12, Peter Schofield wrote: >> Hello Dave >> I shall check the template 6 copy I have and let you know what I find. >> However, that will have to wait until tomorrow when I am at my Mac mini. >> Your list I looks about right for any template. Only exception I can think >> of at the moment is that there should be Chapter Title and Chapter Subtitle >> instead of Title and Subtitle. Title and Subtitle were normally used for the >> complete book when I was writing for a living. >> >> Regards >> >> Peter Schofield >> Sent from my iPad Mini >> >>> On 4 Jun 2020, at 16:53, DaveB wrote: > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide template
Hi Peter, At the time of the final revision for the 6.x template we still had a horribly confusing mix of OOo and LO style naming and the team contributors agreed that we should stick with the standard names where possible. Hence, there was no need to add new names like Chapter Title and Chapter Subtitle, when the existing standard Title and Subtitle styles could simply be modified to the documentation requirements. I see the use of existing style name as being less confusing, particularly for new contributors. Do you feel there would be any advantage in adding new style names and asking contributors to use those instead of the existing standard styles modified to the documentation requirements. Regards Dave On 04/06/2020 16:12, Peter Schofield wrote: > Hello Dave > I shall check the template 6 copy I have and let you know what I find. > However, that will have to wait until tomorrow when I am at my Mac mini. Your > list I looks about right for any template. Only exception I can think of at > the moment is that there should be Chapter Title and Chapter Subtitle instead > of Title and Subtitle. Title and Subtitle were normally used for the complete > book when I was writing for a living. > > Regards > > Peter Schofield > Sent from my iPad Mini > >> On 4 Jun 2020, at 16:53, DaveB wrote: -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide template
Hello Everybody Another reason why we should stay with sans serif fonts. They are easier to read when you are quickly referencing to a user guide. My mail program uses sans serif and it is so easy to read. Regards Peter Schofield Sent from my iPad Mini > On 4 Jun 2020, at 17:04, Dave wrote: > > I keep forgetting LO lists only use outdated teletype formatting, so I > am repeating my previous post in quill pen and parchment style: > > Hi Peter, > > The original 6.x template has/had: > 30 Applied Paragraph Styles + Default > = > Caption > Code > Contents 1 > Contents 2 > Contents 3 > Contents Heading > Definition Term > Figure > Footer > Guide Name > Heading 1 > Heading 2 > Heading 3 > Heading Caution > Heading Note > Heading Tip > List > List 1 > List 2 > Numbering 1 > Numbering 2 > Numbering 3 > Page Break > Subtitle > Table Contents > Table Heading > Text Body > Text Body Indent > Text Note > Title > > 6 Applied Character Styles + Default > > Code > Emphasis > Index Link > Internet Link > Keystroke > Strong Emphasis > > I think Jean would also like one styled as LOList 1_TextBody to assist > with the creating of list items under some circumstances. > > Which styles would you like to see removed? > > Originally there was only one 6.x template in the Nextcloud "Contributor > Resources" folder, but for some unknown reason folks kept creating > additional editions with their own modifications. Hopefully, the Docs > Team can agree on using just the one 7.x template and save save > unnecessary extra work for the person compiling the final book for > publication. However, this seems unlikely since there are already two > versions of the proposed 7.x template in the Nextcloud "Contributor > Resources" folder. > > Regards > Dave > >> On 04/06/2020 14:42, Peter Schofield wrote: >> Hello >> >> There is nothing wrong with LO version 6 template, except the number of >> styles. The only thing that needs doing is serious look at the number of >> styles and the question should be asked is do we need the all. >> >> The version 6 template does need to be updated to match what is happening in >> version 7, if necessary. >> >> Mixing sans serif and serif never looks good in a user guide. It is best to >> keep to one style of font. Sans serif is good and it matches what a user >> would normally see on their computer screen when using LibreOffice. >> >> There need to be only one of the version 7 template. At the moment there are >> too many copies of the version 6 template floating around and which one do >> you use? >> >> Regards >> Peter Schofield >> psaut...@gmail.com >> >> >> >>>> On 4 Jun 2020, at 13:37, DaveB wrote: >>> >>> I will not be joining today's meeting, but since my name still appears >>> in some of the proposed template's comments I will make some observations: >>> >>> * Is there really any important reason to make major changes to the >>> existing 6.x template, or is this just change for the sake of change? >>> >>> * I agree with Steve's comments below. In my view the mix of sans serif >>> and serif fonts used give the template a somewhat messy jumbled >>> appearance and adds nothing to the readability. >>> >>> * Why are the guides (the software?) going to be given the title of >>> "Community Edition"? Did I miss the announcement about the commercial or >>> some other edition? >>> >>> * My view is that unless there is some technical usability improvement >>> that can be made to the existing 6.x template, the 7.x template should >>> only include a few cosmetic changes in line with the software's PR >>> version number change. >>> >>> My 2¢ worth. >>> >>> Regards >>> Dave >>> >>> On 04/06/2020 11:25, Steve Fanning wrote: >>>> Hi Olivier, >>>> >>>> Some personal thoughts on your proposed LO7 template, in advance of the >>>> team meeting to be held later. >>>> >>>> I think that switching the Text Body paragraph style from a sans serif >>>> font to a serif font is an important decision which shouldn’t be made >>>> without proper consideration of its impact. We certainly shouldn’t >>>> commit to that change just because it distinguishes LO7 from LO6. Will >>>> users of the guide
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide template
Hello Dave I shall check the template 6 copy I have and let you know what I find. However, that will have to wait until tomorrow when I am at my Mac mini. Your list I looks about right for any template. Only exception I can think of at the moment is that there should be Chapter Title and Chapter Subtitle instead of Title and Subtitle. Title and Subtitle were normally used for the complete book when I was writing for a living. Regards Peter Schofield Sent from my iPad Mini > On 4 Jun 2020, at 16:53, DaveB wrote: > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide template
I keep forgetting LO lists only use outdated teletype formatting, so Iam repeating my previous post in quill pen and parchment style:Hi Peter,The original 6.x template has/had:30 Applied Paragraph Styles + Default=CaptionCodeContents 1Contents 2Contents 3Contents HeadingDefinition TermFigureFooterGuide NameHeading 1Heading 2Heading 3Heading CautionHeading NoteHeading TipListList 1List 2Numbering 1Numbering 2Numbering 3Page BreakSubtitleTable ContentsTable HeadingText BodyText Body IndentText NoteTitle6 Applied Character Styles + DefaultCodeEmphasisIndex LinkInternet LinkKeystrokeStrong EmphasisI think Jean would also like one styled as LOList 1_TextBody to assistwith the creating of list items under some circumstances.Which styles would you like to see removed?Originally there was only one 6.x template in the Nextcloud "ContributorResources" folder, but for some unknown reason folks kept creatingadditional editions with their own modifications. Hopefully, the DocsTeam can agree on using just the one 7.x template and save saveunnecessary extra work for the person compiling the final book forpublication. However, this seems unlikely since there are already twoversions of the proposed 7.x template in the Nextcloud "ContributorResources" folder.RegardsDaveOn 04/06/2020 14:42, Peter Schofield wrote:HelloThere is nothing wrong with LO version 6 template, except the number of styles. The only thing that needs doing is serious look at the number of styles and the question should be asked is do we need the all.The version 6 template does need to be updated to match what is happening in version 7, if necessary.Mixing sans serif and serif never looks good in a user guide. It is best to keep to one style of font. Sans serif is good and it matches what a user would normally see on their computer screen when using LibreOffice.There need to be only one of the version 7 template. At the moment there are too many copies of the version 6 template floating around and which one do you use?RegardsPeter Schofieldpsauthor@gmail.comOn 4 Jun 2020, at 13:37, DaveBuser.net@posteo.netwrote:I will not be joining today's meeting, but since my name still appearsin some of the proposed template's comments I will make some observations:* Is there really any important reason to make major changes to theexisting 6.x template, or is this just change for the sake of change?* I agree with Steve's comments below. In my view the mix of sans serifand serif fonts used give the template a somewhat messy jumbledappearance and adds nothing to the readability.* Why are the guides (the software?) going to be given the title of"Community Edition"? Did I miss the announcement about the commercial orsome other edition?* My view is that unless there is some technical usability improvementthat can be made to the existing 6.x template, the 7.x template shouldonly include a few cosmetic changes in line with the software's PRversion number change.My 2¢ worth.RegardsDaveOn 04/06/2020 11:25, Steve Fanning wrote:Hi Olivier,Some personal thoughts on your proposed LO7 template, in advance of theteam meeting to be held later.I think that switching the Text Body paragraph style from a sans seriffont to a serif font is an important decision which shouldn’t be madewithout proper consideration of its impact. We certainly shouldn’tcommit to that change just because it distinguishes LO7 from LO6. Willusers of the guides find them more or less readable and attractive afterthe font change?If the team decide to use the serif font for the TextBody style, would it be better to use the same font family for thecharacter styles? This would avoid mixing sans serif and serif characters in a single sentence.On the first page of the template, Ipreferred the chapter number, chapter title and chapter subtitle linesto be left justified, as in the LO6 template.Regards,Steve-- Original Message --From: "Olivier Hallot"olivier.hallot@libreoffice.orgTo: "LibreOffice Documentation"documentation@global.libreoffice.org=Sent: 02/06/2020 20:51:20Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide templateHi TeamI have created a template candidate for our next 7.0 Guide booksavailable in the cloud athttps://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/minfbKWnn6XQkXqThis is work in progress and comment are welcome. I deliberately changedsome styles...* Changed text body font to serif* Deleted unused custom styles in template file* rebuilt the heading style hierarchy where headings inherit fromHeading paragraph style* New logo/banner on top of chapter* Page margins inner/outer values to
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide template
I keep forgetting LO lists only use outdated teletype formatting, so I am repeating my previous post in quill pen and parchment style: Hi Peter, The original 6.x template has/had: 30 Applied Paragraph Styles + Default = Caption Code Contents 1 Contents 2 Contents 3 Contents Heading Definition Term Figure Footer Guide Name Heading 1 Heading 2 Heading 3 Heading Caution Heading Note Heading Tip List List 1 List 2 Numbering 1 Numbering 2 Numbering 3 Page Break Subtitle Table Contents Table Heading Text Body Text Body Indent Text Note Title 6 Applied Character Styles + Default Code Emphasis Index Link Internet Link Keystroke Strong Emphasis I think Jean would also like one styled as LOList 1_TextBody to assist with the creating of list items under some circumstances. Which styles would you like to see removed? Originally there was only one 6.x template in the Nextcloud "Contributor Resources" folder, but for some unknown reason folks kept creating additional editions with their own modifications. Hopefully, the Docs Team can agree on using just the one 7.x template and save save unnecessary extra work for the person compiling the final book for publication. However, this seems unlikely since there are already two versions of the proposed 7.x template in the Nextcloud "Contributor Resources" folder. Regards Dave On 04/06/2020 14:42, Peter Schofield wrote: > Hello > > There is nothing wrong with LO version 6 template, except the number of > styles. The only thing that needs doing is serious look at the number of > styles and the question should be asked is do we need the all. > > The version 6 template does need to be updated to match what is happening in > version 7, if necessary. > > Mixing sans serif and serif never looks good in a user guide. It is best to > keep to one style of font. Sans serif is good and it matches what a user > would normally see on their computer screen when using LibreOffice. > > There need to be only one of the version 7 template. At the moment there are > too many copies of the version 6 template floating around and which one do > you use? > > Regards > Peter Schofield > psaut...@gmail.com > > > >> On 4 Jun 2020, at 13:37, DaveB wrote: >> >> I will not be joining today's meeting, but since my name still appears >> in some of the proposed template's comments I will make some observations: >> >> * Is there really any important reason to make major changes to the >> existing 6.x template, or is this just change for the sake of change? >> >> * I agree with Steve's comments below. In my view the mix of sans serif >> and serif fonts used give the template a somewhat messy jumbled >> appearance and adds nothing to the readability. >> >> * Why are the guides (the software?) going to be given the title of >> "Community Edition"? Did I miss the announcement about the commercial or >> some other edition? >> >> * My view is that unless there is some technical usability improvement >> that can be made to the existing 6.x template, the 7.x template should >> only include a few cosmetic changes in line with the software's PR >> version number change. >> >> My 2¢ worth. >> >> Regards >> Dave >> >> On 04/06/2020 11:25, Steve Fanning wrote: >>> Hi Olivier, >>> >>> Some personal thoughts on your proposed LO7 template, in advance of the >>> team meeting to be held later. >>> >>> I think that switching the Text Body paragraph style from a sans serif >>> font to a serif font is an important decision which shouldn’t be made >>> without proper consideration of its impact. We certainly shouldn’t >>> commit to that change just because it distinguishes LO7 from LO6. Will >>> users of the guides find them more or less readable and attractive after >>> the font change?If the team decide to use the serif font for the Text >>> Body style, would it be better to use the same font family for the >>> character styles? This would avoid mixing sans serif and serif >>> characters in a single sentence.On the first page of the template, I >>> preferred the chapter number, chapter title and chapter subtitle lines >>> to be left justified, as in the LO6 template. >>> Regards, >>> >>> Steve >>> >>> >>> -- Original Message -- >>> From: "Olivier Hallot" >>> To: "LibreOffice Documentation" >>> Sent: 02/06/2020 20:51:20 >>> Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide template >>> >>>> Hi Team >&
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide template
Hi Peter,The original 6.x template has/had:30 Applied Paragraph Styles + Default=CaptionCodeContents 1Contents 2Contents 3Contents HeadingDefinition TermFigureFooterGuide NameHeading 1Heading 2Heading 3Heading CautionHeading NoteHeading TipListList 1List 2Numbering 1Numbering 2Numbering 3Page BreakSubtitleTable ContentsTable HeadingText BodyText Body IndentText NoteTitle6 Applied Character Styles + DefaultCodeEmphasisIndex LinkInternet LinkKeystrokeStrong EmphasisI think Jean would also like one styled as LOList 1_TextBody to assist with the creating of list items under some circumstances.Which styles would you like to see removed?Originally there was only one 6.x template in the Nextcloud "Contributor Resources" folder, but for some unknown reason folks kept creating additional editions with their own modifications. Hopefully, the Docs Team can agree on using just the one 7.x template and save save unnecessary extra work for the person compiling the final book for publication. However, this seems unlikely since there are already two versions of the proposed 7.x template in the Nextcloud "Contributor Resources" folder.RegardsDaveFrom: Peter Schofield [mailto:psaut...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2020, 13:42 UTC To:DaveB Cc:LibreOffice Subject:[libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide template Hello There is nothing wrong with LO version 6 template, except the number of styles. The only thing that needs doing is serious look at the number of styles and the question should be asked is do we need the all. The version 6 template does need to be updated to match what is happening in version 7, if necessary. Mixing sans serif and serif never looks good in a user guide. It is best to keep to one style of font. Sans serif is good and it matches what a user would normally see on their computer screen when using LibreOffice. There need to be only one of the version 7 template. At the moment there are too many copies of the version 6 template floating around and which one do you use? Regards Peter Schofieldpsauthor@gmail.comOn 4 Jun 2020, at 13:37, DaveBuser.net@posteo.netwrote: I will not be joining today's meeting, but since my name still appears in some of the proposed template's comments I will make some observations: * Is there really any important reason to make major changes to the existing 6.x template, or is this just change for the sake of change? * I agree with Steve's comments below. In my view the mix of sans serif and serif fonts used give the template a somewhat messy jumbled appearance and adds nothing to the readability. * Why are the guides (the software?) going to be given the title of "Community Edition"? Did I miss the announcement about the commercial or some other edition? * My view is that unless there is some technical usability improvement that can be made to the existing 6.x template, the 7.x template should only include a few cosmetic changes in line with the software's PR version number change. My 2¢ worth. Regards Dave On 04/06/2020 11:25, Steve Fanning wrote:Hi Olivier, Some personal thoughts on your proposed LO7 template, in advance of the team meeting to be held later. I think that switching the Text Body paragraph style from a sans serif font to a serif font is an important decision which shouldn’t be made without proper consideration of its impact. We certainly shouldn’t commit to that change just because it distinguishes LO7 from LO6. Will users of the guides find them more or less readable and attractive after the font change?If the team decide to use the serif font for the Text Body style, would it be better to use the same font family for the character styles? This would avoid mixing sans serif and serif characters in a single sentence.On the first page of the template, I preferred the chapter number, chapter title and chapter subtitle lines to be left justified, as in the LO6 template. Regards, Steve -- Original Message -- From: "Olivier Hallot"olivier.hallot@libreoffice.orgTo: "LibreOffice Documentation"documentation@global.libreoffice.orgSent: 02/06/2020 20:51:20 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide templateHi Team I have created a template candidate for our next 7.0 Guide books available in the cloud athttps://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/minfbKWnn6XQkXqThis is work in progress and comment are welcome. I deliberately changed some styles... * Changed text body font to serif * Deleted unused custom styles in template file * rebuilt the heading style hierarchy where headings inherit from Heading paragraph style * New logo/banner on top of chapter * Page margins inner/outer values to allow binding. * New Tip/Note/Warning icons/background (from Help) * No new style, no
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide template
Hello There is nothing wrong with LO version 6 template, except the number of styles. The only thing that needs doing is serious look at the number of styles and the question should be asked is do we need the all. The version 6 template does need to be updated to match what is happening in version 7, if necessary. Mixing sans serif and serif never looks good in a user guide. It is best to keep to one style of font. Sans serif is good and it matches what a user would normally see on their computer screen when using LibreOffice. There need to be only one of the version 7 template. At the moment there are too many copies of the version 6 template floating around and which one do you use? Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@gmail.com > On 4 Jun 2020, at 13:37, DaveB wrote: > > I will not be joining today's meeting, but since my name still appears > in some of the proposed template's comments I will make some observations: > > * Is there really any important reason to make major changes to the > existing 6.x template, or is this just change for the sake of change? > > * I agree with Steve's comments below. In my view the mix of sans serif > and serif fonts used give the template a somewhat messy jumbled > appearance and adds nothing to the readability. > > * Why are the guides (the software?) going to be given the title of > "Community Edition"? Did I miss the announcement about the commercial or > some other edition? > > * My view is that unless there is some technical usability improvement > that can be made to the existing 6.x template, the 7.x template should > only include a few cosmetic changes in line with the software's PR > version number change. > > My 2¢ worth. > > Regards > Dave > > On 04/06/2020 11:25, Steve Fanning wrote: >> Hi Olivier, >> >> Some personal thoughts on your proposed LO7 template, in advance of the >> team meeting to be held later. >> >> I think that switching the Text Body paragraph style from a sans serif >> font to a serif font is an important decision which shouldn’t be made >> without proper consideration of its impact. We certainly shouldn’t >> commit to that change just because it distinguishes LO7 from LO6. Will >> users of the guides find them more or less readable and attractive after >> the font change?If the team decide to use the serif font for the Text >> Body style, would it be better to use the same font family for the >> character styles? This would avoid mixing sans serif and serif >> characters in a single sentence.On the first page of the template, I >> preferred the chapter number, chapter title and chapter subtitle lines >> to be left justified, as in the LO6 template. >> Regards, >> >> Steve >> >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Olivier Hallot" >> To: "LibreOffice Documentation" >> Sent: 02/06/2020 20:51:20 >> Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide template >> >>> Hi Team >>> >>> I have created a template candidate for our next 7.0 Guide books >>> available in the cloud at >>> >>> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/minfbKWnn6XQkXq >>> >>> This is work in progress and comment are welcome. I deliberately changed >>> some styles... >>> >>> * Changed text body font to serif >>> * Deleted unused custom styles in template file >>> * rebuilt the heading style hierarchy where headings inherit from >>> Heading paragraph style >>> * New logo/banner on top of chapter >>> * Page margins inner/outer values to allow binding. >>> * New Tip/Note/Warning icons/background (from Help) >>> * No new style, no style rename >>> * Suggestion for Heading colors based on Module colors >>> * Reworked number & bullet list position settings. >>> >>> Glad to discuss items here or in the Team meeting this Thursday June >>> 4th, 18:00 UTC >>> >>> Kind regards >>> -- >>> Olivier Hallot >>> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator >>> Comunidade LibreOffice >>> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 >>> http://tdf.io/joinus > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide template
I will not be joining today's meeting, but since my name still appears in some of the proposed template's comments I will make some observations: * Is there really any important reason to make major changes to the existing 6.x template, or is this just change for the sake of change? * I agree with Steve's comments below. In my view the mix of sans serif and serif fonts used give the template a somewhat messy jumbled appearance and adds nothing to the readability. * Why are the guides (the software?) going to be given the title of "Community Edition"? Did I miss the announcement about the commercial or some other edition? * My view is that unless there is some technical usability improvement that can be made to the existing 6.x template, the 7.x template should only include a few cosmetic changes in line with the software's PR version number change. My 2¢ worth. Regards Dave On 04/06/2020 11:25, Steve Fanning wrote: > Hi Olivier, > > Some personal thoughts on your proposed LO7 template, in advance of the > team meeting to be held later. > > I think that switching the Text Body paragraph style from a sans serif > font to a serif font is an important decision which shouldn’t be made > without proper consideration of its impact. We certainly shouldn’t > commit to that change just because it distinguishes LO7 from LO6. Will > users of the guides find them more or less readable and attractive after > the font change?If the team decide to use the serif font for the Text > Body style, would it be better to use the same font family for the > character styles? This would avoid mixing sans serif and serif > characters in a single sentence.On the first page of the template, I > preferred the chapter number, chapter title and chapter subtitle lines > to be left justified, as in the LO6 template. > Regards, > > Steve > > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Olivier Hallot" > To: "LibreOffice Documentation" > Sent: 02/06/2020 20:51:20 > Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide template > >> Hi Team >> >> I have created a template candidate for our next 7.0 Guide books >> available in the cloud at >> >> https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/minfbKWnn6XQkXq >> >> This is work in progress and comment are welcome. I deliberately changed >> some styles... >> >> * Changed text body font to serif >> * Deleted unused custom styles in template file >> * rebuilt the heading style hierarchy where headings inherit from >> Heading paragraph style >> * New logo/banner on top of chapter >> * Page margins inner/outer values to allow binding. >> * New Tip/Note/Warning icons/background (from Help) >> * No new style, no style rename >> * Suggestion for Heading colors based on Module colors >> * Reworked number & bullet list position settings. >> >> Glad to discuss items here or in the Team meeting this Thursday June >> 4th, 18:00 UTC >> >> Kind regards >> -- >> Olivier Hallot >> LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator >> Comunidade LibreOffice >> Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 >> http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide template
Hi Olivier, Some personal thoughts on your proposed LO7 template, in advance of the team meeting to be held later. I think that switching the Text Body paragraph style from a sans serif font to a serif font is an important decision which shouldn’t be made without proper consideration of its impact. We certainly shouldn’t commit to that change just because it distinguishes LO7 from LO6. Will users of the guides find them more or less readable and attractive after the font change?If the team decide to use the serif font for the Text Body style, would it be better to use the same font family for the character styles? This would avoid mixing sans serif and serif characters in a single sentence.On the first page of the template, I preferred the chapter number, chapter title and chapter subtitle lines to be left justified, as in the LO6 template. Regards, Steve -- Original Message -- From: "Olivier Hallot" To: "LibreOffice Documentation" Sent: 02/06/2020 20:51:20 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide template Hi Team I have created a template candidate for our next 7.0 Guide books available in the cloud at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/minfbKWnn6XQkXq This is work in progress and comment are welcome. I deliberately changed some styles... * Changed text body font to serif * Deleted unused custom styles in template file * rebuilt the heading style hierarchy where headings inherit from Heading paragraph style * New logo/banner on top of chapter * Page margins inner/outer values to allow binding. * New Tip/Note/Warning icons/background (from Help) * No new style, no style rename * Suggestion for Heading colors based on Module colors * Reworked number & bullet list position settings. Glad to discuss items here or in the Team meeting this Thursday June 4th, 18:00 UTC Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
[libreoffice-documentation] Proposal for 7.x guide template
Hi Team I have created a template candidate for our next 7.0 Guide books available in the cloud at https://nextcloud.documentfoundation.org/s/minfbKWnn6XQkXq This is work in progress and comment are welcome. I deliberately changed some styles... * Changed text body font to serif * Deleted unused custom styles in template file * rebuilt the heading style hierarchy where headings inherit from Heading paragraph style * New logo/banner on top of chapter * Page margins inner/outer values to allow binding. * New Tip/Note/Warning icons/background (from Help) * No new style, no style rename * Suggestion for Heading colors based on Module colors * Reworked number & bullet list position settings. Glad to discuss items here or in the Team meeting this Thursday June 4th, 18:00 UTC Kind regards -- Olivier Hallot LibreOffice Documentation Coordinator Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brasil - Local Time: UTC-03:00 http://tdf.io/joinus -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
