[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
@fourdolars: I agree with the part helping the development of CJKUnifonts. However, it is no sense to use AR PL UMing for all styles as AR PL UMing is a serif style font and can only be used in serif part. BTW, the configuration is using AR PL UMing now. So the issue here is which font we should use for sans-serif and monospace part for Chinese. Monospace part is no difference for Chinese to use sans-serif or monospace here because we fallback from DejaVu Sans Mono and Chinese characters are monospaced already. It is always to use open font first that we can improve them by the power of the community. The existing sans-serif style open Chinese fonts are Droid Sans Fallback, WenquanYi Microhei and Zenhei, cwTeX Yuan and Hei Bold, and cwTeX Q Yuan and Hei. The reason why I suggested Droid was written above as Wenquanyi project has stopped development for many years while Droid is still being maintained and releasing new versions. cwTeX fonts are not covering as many characters as droid does, we still have to fallback to Droid to get better Chinese support, but cwTeX and Droid does not share the same font height and width which is not a good result though. Using open fonts makes us have the right to improve the fonts. Droid Sans Fallback has good coverage and uses Apache license, so it should reduce the work for the community to improve in contrast to cwTeX fonts and it's derived fonts. However, we still have other improvement way for other sans-serif style Chinese font. One is to fork Wenquanyi Microhei which some of my friends are planning to do, and the other is to expand the development of cwTeX or cwTeX Q fonts projects. If you don't want to see Droid Sans Fallback which follows GB standard, we can found a project or create a subproject under CJKUnifonts to modify it. It might be a quicker way to have more efficiency. If you cannot accept Droid Sans Fallback however, we can think about choosing cwTeX Q Hei instead and help to improve the font in community way. It will takes more time and work to have the good quality and high quantity as droid font does though. For the information about typography issue to match Chinese font with English font, please see: 1. http://blog.justfont.com/2013/12/popular-typography/ 2. http://breezymove.blogspot.tw/2013/11/cantarell.html This post uses Cantarell as example, but share the same idea with this issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Just FYI, one of the reasons why WQY Microhei is not maintained is that, at some time a Droid Sans Fallback update released by Google contains many more characters than in Microhei, while the project's initial goal was to expand the original Droid Sans to get better coverage. It's currently impossible to get the best appearance for character if no hand-crafted hinting is involved for each type face, even WQY project had that pushed forward a large step while making Microhei, the project leader still said that quality of the font will never match those fonts made by commercial companies because of the limited availability of volunteer manpower. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Your suggestion will create another issue on typography that ubuntu font is sans-serif style while AR PL UMing and CNS11643 are serif style. Plus, AR PL UMing covers more characters than cwTeX and MOE, there is low probability fallbacking to them. And we have already been using AR PL UMing for serif style in the configuration. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1232814] [NEW] Hibernate option is missing from menu in 13.10 even after trying to re-enable
You have been subscribed to a public bug: Summary: The issues stopped appearing from 2013-11-07 onwards. The menu is built correctly now, but it is unknown which version of an updated package from that timeframe actually fixed the menu issue. The documentation needs to be updated with the instructions from the solution below to reenable hibernation in 13.10. - Solution to reenable to hibernate menuentry: File /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable- hibernate.pkla needs to contain: [Re-enable hibernate by default in upower] Identity=unix-user:* Action=org.freedesktop.upower.hibernate ResultActive=yes [Re-enable hibernate by default in logind] Identity=unix-user:* Action=org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate ResultActive=yes - I upgraded from raring to saucy on my notebook, where hibernate was enabled and working fine. Now the hibernate option is missing. I followed the instructions on how to reenable hibernate (https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html) but the option is still missing. Hibernating from terminal via s2disk works. File exists with proper content and permissions: $ sudo ls -l /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 111 Sep 29 18:52 /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla $ sudo cat /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla [Re-enable hibernate by default] Identity=unix-user:* Action=org.freedesktop.upower.hibernate ResultActive=yes ** Affects: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Affects: ubuntu-docs Importance: Undecided Assignee: Kevin Godby (godbyk) Status: Fix Committed -- Hibernate option is missing from menu in 13.10 even after trying to re-enable https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1232814 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-docs in Ubuntu. -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1232814] Re: Hibernate option is missing from menu in 13.10 even after trying to re-enable
** Project changed: indicator-session = ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-docs in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1232814 Title: Hibernate option is missing from menu in 13.10 even after trying to re-enable Status in Ubuntu Documentation: Fix Committed Status in “ubuntu-docs” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: Summary: The issues stopped appearing from 2013-11-07 onwards. The menu is built correctly now, but it is unknown which version of an updated package from that timeframe actually fixed the menu issue. The documentation needs to be updated with the instructions from the solution below to reenable hibernation in 13.10. - Solution to reenable to hibernate menuentry: File /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable- hibernate.pkla needs to contain: [Re-enable hibernate by default in upower] Identity=unix-user:* Action=org.freedesktop.upower.hibernate ResultActive=yes [Re-enable hibernate by default in logind] Identity=unix-user:* Action=org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate ResultActive=yes - I upgraded from raring to saucy on my notebook, where hibernate was enabled and working fine. Now the hibernate option is missing. I followed the instructions on how to reenable hibernate (https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html) but the option is still missing. Hibernating from terminal via s2disk works. File exists with proper content and permissions: $ sudo ls -l /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 111 Sep 29 18:52 /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla $ sudo cat /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla [Re-enable hibernate by default] Identity=unix-user:* Action=org.freedesktop.upower.hibernate ResultActive=yes To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docs/+bug/1232814/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1232814] Re: Hibernate option is missing from menu in 13.10 even after trying to re-enable
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-docs in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1232814 Title: Hibernate option is missing from menu in 13.10 even after trying to re-enable Status in Ubuntu Documentation: Fix Committed Status in “ubuntu-docs” package in Ubuntu: New Bug description: Summary: The issues stopped appearing from 2013-11-07 onwards. The menu is built correctly now, but it is unknown which version of an updated package from that timeframe actually fixed the menu issue. The documentation needs to be updated with the instructions from the solution below to reenable hibernation in 13.10. - Solution to reenable to hibernate menuentry: File /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable- hibernate.pkla needs to contain: [Re-enable hibernate by default in upower] Identity=unix-user:* Action=org.freedesktop.upower.hibernate ResultActive=yes [Re-enable hibernate by default in logind] Identity=unix-user:* Action=org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate ResultActive=yes - I upgraded from raring to saucy on my notebook, where hibernate was enabled and working fine. Now the hibernate option is missing. I followed the instructions on how to reenable hibernate (https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html) but the option is still missing. Hibernating from terminal via s2disk works. File exists with proper content and permissions: $ sudo ls -l /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 111 Sep 29 18:52 /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla $ sudo cat /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla [Re-enable hibernate by default] Identity=unix-user:* Action=org.freedesktop.upower.hibernate ResultActive=yes To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docs/+bug/1232814/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
How about to find another English font to replace Ubuntu font in serif style? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
I don't actually get what you mean here. But I guess that you are talking about it is better to use Western serif font listed before AR PL UMing for serif font family. 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf does not affect the result about serif font family strongly. It is always using AR PL UMing first before DejaVu Serif no matter how you change 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf. I doubt there are some other configurations in combination may have assign AR PL UMing higher priority. And if you want Western font listed before AR PL UMing we have to investigate further to solve the issue. You can see comment #14 for my previous test on changing zh-tw.conf. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1232814] Re: Hibernate option is missing from menu in 13.10 even after trying to re-enable
** No longer affects: ubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ubuntu-docs in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1232814 Title: Hibernate option is missing from menu in 13.10 even after trying to re-enable Status in Ubuntu Documentation: Fix Committed Bug description: Summary: The issues stopped appearing from 2013-11-07 onwards. The menu is built correctly now, but it is unknown which version of an updated package from that timeframe actually fixed the menu issue. The documentation needs to be updated with the instructions from the solution below to reenable hibernation in 13.10. - Solution to reenable to hibernate menuentry: File /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable- hibernate.pkla needs to contain: [Re-enable hibernate by default in upower] Identity=unix-user:* Action=org.freedesktop.upower.hibernate ResultActive=yes [Re-enable hibernate by default in logind] Identity=unix-user:* Action=org.freedesktop.login1.hibernate ResultActive=yes - I upgraded from raring to saucy on my notebook, where hibernate was enabled and working fine. Now the hibernate option is missing. I followed the instructions on how to reenable hibernate (https://help.ubuntu.com/13.10/ubuntu-help/power-hibernate.html) but the option is still missing. Hibernating from terminal via s2disk works. File exists with proper content and permissions: $ sudo ls -l /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 111 Sep 29 18:52 /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla $ sudo cat /etc/polkit-1/localauthority/50-local.d/com.ubuntu.enable-hibernate.pkla [Re-enable hibernate by default] Identity=unix-user:* Action=org.freedesktop.upower.hibernate ResultActive=yes To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docs/+bug/1232814/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
