[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Thanks for the explanation, Jack. Then I suppose that fonts-droid is already shipped in Ubuntu Kylin just like in standard Ubuntu. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
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[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
fonts-droid has been included in the Ubuntu seed for a few months now, and I have proposed that flavor distros change their seeds in the same way. @Aron: I couldn't find any ubuntukylin.trusty branch in ubuntu-seeds. Where did you hide it? ;-) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
See that. Probably right now it's the best arrangement for Hong Kong users as well given currently (limited) resource. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
In reply to comment 41: The 2 reports are not entirely related. But I hope this report is only limited to the scope of 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf. The case for Hong Kong is more serious, in that *none* of the fonts described above have enough coverage of Hong Kong Supplementary Character Set (the only one good enough is AR PL UMing HK). Hong Kong users currently don't even have such luxury to discuss whether a font looks good or not. I'll check Droid fallback font to see what's missing and provide comment on whether it's good enough for use in Hong Kong as well. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Yes, it is better to use Western serif font listed before AR PL UMing for serif font family if we want to have a better looking for Western characters. In short, my point is to use those fonts in better compliance with Taiwan's standard instead of those are not. I am not willing to have better Chinese characters but sacrifice the compliance of Taiwan's standard. Of course, that is only my personal opinion. I can not represent all Taiwan users. BTW, I prefer free fonts than non-free. Free means we have chances to fix problems. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
OK, I will try to figure out which configuration play a big role to list AR PL UMing as the first one in serif style when I am free, and then file another bug report for that issue. It might around Chinese new year though. :P -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
@fourdolars: I agree with the part helping the development of CJKUnifonts. However, it is no sense to use AR PL UMing for all styles as AR PL UMing is a serif style font and can only be used in serif part. BTW, the configuration is using AR PL UMing now. So the issue here is which font we should use for sans-serif and monospace part for Chinese. Monospace part is no difference for Chinese to use sans-serif or monospace here because we fallback from DejaVu Sans Mono and Chinese characters are monospaced already. It is always to use open font first that we can improve them by the power of the community. The existing sans-serif style open Chinese fonts are Droid Sans Fallback, WenquanYi Microhei and Zenhei, cwTeX Yuan and Hei Bold, and cwTeX Q Yuan and Hei. The reason why I suggested Droid was written above as Wenquanyi project has stopped development for many years while Droid is still being maintained and releasing new versions. cwTeX fonts are not covering as many characters as droid does, we still have to fallback to Droid to get better Chinese support, but cwTeX and Droid does not share the same font height and width which is not a good result though. Using open fonts makes us have the right to improve the fonts. Droid Sans Fallback has good coverage and uses Apache license, so it should reduce the work for the community to improve in contrast to cwTeX fonts and it's derived fonts. However, we still have other improvement way for other sans-serif style Chinese font. One is to fork Wenquanyi Microhei which some of my friends are planning to do, and the other is to expand the development of cwTeX or cwTeX Q fonts projects. If you don't want to see Droid Sans Fallback which follows GB standard, we can found a project or create a subproject under CJKUnifonts to modify it. It might be a quicker way to have more efficiency. If you cannot accept Droid Sans Fallback however, we can think about choosing cwTeX Q Hei instead and help to improve the font in community way. It will takes more time and work to have the good quality and high quantity as droid font does though. For the information about typography issue to match Chinese font with English font, please see: 1. http://blog.justfont.com/2013/12/popular-typography/ 2. http://breezymove.blogspot.tw/2013/11/cantarell.html This post uses Cantarell as example, but share the same idea with this issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Just FYI, one of the reasons why WQY Microhei is not maintained is that, at some time a Droid Sans Fallback update released by Google contains many more characters than in Microhei, while the project's initial goal was to expand the original Droid Sans to get better coverage. It's currently impossible to get the best appearance for character if no hand-crafted hinting is involved for each type face, even WQY project had that pushed forward a large step while making Microhei, the project leader still said that quality of the font will never match those fonts made by commercial companies because of the limited availability of volunteer manpower. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Your suggestion will create another issue on typography that ubuntu font is sans-serif style while AR PL UMing and CNS11643 are serif style. Plus, AR PL UMing covers more characters than cwTeX and MOE, there is low probability fallbacking to them. And we have already been using AR PL UMing for serif style in the configuration. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
How about to find another English font to replace Ubuntu font in serif style? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
I don't actually get what you mean here. But I guess that you are talking about it is better to use Western serif font listed before AR PL UMing for serif font family. 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf does not affect the result about serif font family strongly. It is always using AR PL UMing first before DejaVu Serif no matter how you change 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf. I doubt there are some other configurations in combination may have assign AR PL UMing higher priority. And if you want Western font listed before AR PL UMing we have to investigate further to solve the issue. You can see comment #14 for my previous test on changing zh-tw.conf. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
@zerng07: I think CJKUnifonts does want to follow Taiwan's standard (CNS11643), China's standard (GB18030), and other countries' standard also. However this project seema to stop the development since 2010 (http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/CJKUnifonts/). CJKUnifonts is a truely open source project and it also has many bugs needed to fix. fonts-moe-standard and fonts-cns11643 are the fonts released by Taiwan government, and they are licensed by CC-BY-ND (Non-Free). The Debian package maintainers are both Taiwanese. I am the maintainer of fonts-cns11643. As you said some glyphs of AR PL UMing/UKai don't follow Taiwan standard. I agree with you. But I think they are bugs and we should help to fix them as a FLOSS member. I also agree that WenQuanYi Micro Hei looks better than AR PL UMing/UKai. But remember, WenQuanYi Micro Hei follows GB18030 and it is not compliant to CNS11643. I think we should use AR PL UMing/UKai as the default fonts for Taiwan users, and help the development of CJKUnifonts to follow Taiwan standard. Or we can help the development of WenQuanYi to include the support of CNS11643. However at this point I think AR PL UMing/UKai is better than WenQuanYi Micro Hei to follow Taiwan standard. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
BTW, there are other fonts: fonts-cwtex-* following Taiwan standard and licensed by GPL-2+. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
@fourdollars Actually, CJKUnifonts (AR PL UMing and AR PL UKai) do not follow Taiwan standard too. That's because they both were composed of Traditional style and Simplified style fonts before. AR PL UMing is compoesed of 文鼎細上海宋繁 and 文鼎報宋簡 while AR PL UKai is composed of 文鼎中楷繁 and 文鼎中楷簡. For example, 角 from AR PL UMing TW is using Simplified style. That's the proof. fonts-moe-standard and fonts-cns11643 fonts are not maintained by open source community and have no promising future to improve by open source community. @happyaron Yes, I agree with you. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
The fonts that follow Taiwan standard are fonts-arphic-uming, fonts-arphic-ukai, fonts-moe-standard-kai, fonts-moe-standard-song fonts-cns11643-kai and fonts-cns11643-sung. I think we should avoid using other fonts in 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf. For more information, please see the following links. (traditional Chinese) http://blog.justfont.com/?p=5305 http://www.arphic.com/tw/news/epaper/agent/201108/font_technology.htm -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
But Droid Sans can give way better screen experience than the alternatives you pointed above. And I believe it's more reasonable to default to those fonts in printing materials, i.e. in libreoffice. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
** Also affects: ubuntu-seeds Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: New Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
** Changed in: ubuntu-seeds Status: New = In Progress ** Changed in: ubuntu-seeds Assignee: (unassigned) = Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in Ubuntu Seeds: In Progress Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-seeds/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
ttf-wqy-microhei is seeded too. Should this be changed? ttf-wqy-microhei (from ttf-wqy-microhei) is seeded in: edubuntu: dvd kubuntu-active: daily-live kubuntu: daily-live lubuntu: daily, daily-live, daily-preinstalled ubuntu-gnome: daily-live ubuntu: daily-live ubuntukylin: daily-live ubuntustudio: dvd xubuntu: daily-live -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Right, Iain, I was wrong when I said in comment #20 that fonts-android is already in main, and have now filed a MIR application as bug #1249132. On 2013-11-07 12:12, Iain Lane wrote: ttf-wqy-microhei is seeded too. Should this be changed? Seeding fonts-droid instead of ttf-wqy-microhei is reasonably a logical consequential step, and seems to be needed to complete the MIR process... However, I'd suggest that we wait a couple of months to see if Droid Sans Fallback proves to work smoothly and gets broadly accepted by Chinese users. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu/trusty/ttf-wqy-microhei/lp-1173571 ** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/language-selector -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
This bug was fixed in the package language-selector - 0.118 --- language-selector (0.118) trusty; urgency=low * data/pkg_depends: ttf-wqy-zenhei replaced with fonts-droid for Chinese (LP: #1173571). * fontconfig/69-language-selector-zh-hk.conf, -zh-cn.conf, -zh-sg.conf: Droid Sans Fallback moved to top. * fontconfig/69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf: Outdated DejaVu bindings removed (LP: #1173571). -- Gunnar Hjalmarsson gunna...@ubuntu.com Wed, 06 Nov 2013 14:58:00 +0100 ** Changed in: language-selector (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress = Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: Fix Released Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
[Documentation-packages] [Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf
Could we start the MIP for fonts-droid these days to finish this issue? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Documentation Packages, which is subscribed to ttf-wqy-microhei in Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf Status in “language-selector” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Status in “ttf-wqy-microhei” package in Ubuntu: In Progress Bug description: In quantal and previous version of ubuntu, we use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as default Chinese (Traditional) fonts for Sans, Monospace. However, the default font is set to WenQuanYi Zen Hei in 0.110 version provided by Raring. It is a regression that most of Chinese (Traditional) users don't appreciate this change. We would like to use WenQuanYi Micro Hei as before. I changed the conf provided by raring to fit we Chinese (Traditional) users more to have WenQuanYi Micro Hei back. Please accept the patch. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+subscriptions -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages Post to : documentation-packages@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~documentation-packages More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp