Re: [Dorset] OT: Sign up to oppose the Digital Economy Bill

2010-04-05 Thread Robert Bronsdon
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:36:44 +0100, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk  
wrote:

 I'm not sure if you left out the sarcasm tags or whether you really  
 believe

Apologies - I did leave off the sarcasm tags.

I think the 'trialing' is one aspect of the 'pirates'. The other is that  
those are the people who are 'into' the content to begin with. Often they  
will purchase the bits they like the most and will download things they  
don't feel are worth their money.

That my experience anyway.

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Re: [Dorset] OT: Sign up to oppose the Digital Economy Bill

2010-04-05 Thread Robert Bronsdon
On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 14:11:48 +0100, Andrew Montgomery-Hurrell  
darkliq...@darkliquid.co.uk wrote:

 Thats essentially what DRM is. As it's already been proven, it is  
 entirely ineffective. However, if they were free, time limited full
 songs would be a nice way of doing publicity and try before you buy.

My personal opinion is that the industry needs to reform their entire  
pricing structure.

Gone are the days people feel 'britney spears et al' require private jets  
and 50 bedroom mansions. Hows about we work out the price of a CD for  
everyone involved in the creation of each disk to earn a maximum of a  
£50,000 salary.

Bets on CDs hitting a few pounds (or less) and piracy dropping to 'almost  
nothing'. Sadly there will still be some piracy.

Same theory for games and movies. If the people involved only earned  
'regular' salaries the costs of each disk would be much more reasonable.

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Re: [Dorset] OT: Sign up to oppose the Digital Economy Bill

2010-04-05 Thread Terry Coles
On Monday 05 Apr 2010, Robert Bronsdon wrote:
 My personal opinion is that the industry needs to reform their entire
 pricing structure.
 
 Gone are the days people feel 'britney spears et al' require private jets
 and 50 bedroom mansions. Hows about we work out the price of a CD for
 everyone involved in the creation of each disk to earn a maximum of a
 £50,000 salary.

Apart from a few very big stars, the only people who make large sums of money 
out of music are the labels.  Most of the artists get locked into very 
restrictive contracts and rely on gigs to get a living.  That's why there is a 
fairly large movement amongst the artists who are also trying to change the 
business model of the music industry.

I think that your formula is a bit difficult to put into practice.  
Personally, I have no problem if genuinely talented artists are able to make 
big money.  What I object to is the rest of the music industry, who leech on 
their backs and get far more out of it than they put in.

Now that the internet provides a direct channel between the artist and the 
consumer, I'm perfectly happy to buy direct from an artist's website.  If they 
are really good, then the money will come and the really, really good, will 
make lots of money.  The leeches will then have to make their money by 
providing a service to the artists, instead of the other way round.

 Bets on CDs hitting a few pounds (or less) and piracy dropping to 'almost
 nothing'. Sadly there will still be some piracy.

Yes.  There will always be piracy, because there will always be people who are 
inherently dishonest.  However, given a fairer business model, where the 
worthy artists are given their rewards direct from the consumer, then it will 
become far less 'acceptable' to rip off music.
 
 Same theory for games and movies. If the people involved only earned
 'regular' salaries the costs of each disk would be much more reasonable.

Movies and games are a more difficult problem, because, you tend to need a 
pretty large organisation to produce them, especially the blockbusters.  
However, the returns at the moment are ridiculously high, well out of 
proportion to the effort expended.  A more equitable business model is needed 
all round, but if I knew what it was I'd be rich :-)

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