[Dorset] networking problem - can anyone help ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a Draytec router connected to my ISP : ip range 192.168.1.x Attached internally ie Lan, is a Linksys Wireless router - which reports that its IP address is 192.168.1.10 When I connect any machine using wireless the IP address is 192.168.2.x So I have bought an HP wireless printer: Its assigned IP: is in the 192.168.2.x range Now if I use a computer connected via wireless - I can see this printer and use it. BUT for the Lan machines I cannot - they are in range 192.168.1.x I have tried setting a route on the Lan machine - route add 192.168.2.x gw 192.168.1.10 BUT it does not appear So what have I missed here ? And finally - if I do get the route to work - what happens if one of the PCs gets moved from the Lan to Wireless or the reverse ? Will it still work ? thanks Peter Linehan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkv027IACgkQ435jXaRMus6ylwCguedB7KSeUmf9eRtlpJMoD0SV ES8An34ZEBo1ZN1ke5Lc+L4mJWj/R0UU =Gu/z -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] networking problem - can anyone help ?
Hi Peter On 20/05/10 07:50, Peter wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a Draytec router connected to my ISP : ip range 192.168.1.x Attached internally ie Lan, is a Linksys Wireless router - which reports that its IP address is 192.168.1.10 When I connect any machine using wireless the IP address is 192.168.2.x So I have bought an HP wireless printer: Its assigned IP: is in the 192.168.2.x range Now if I use a computer connected via wireless - I can see this printer and use it. BUT for the Lan machines I cannot - they are in range 192.168.1.x I have tried setting a route on the Lan machine - route add 192.168.2.x gw 192.168.1.10 BUT it does not appear So what have I missed here ? And finally - if I do get the route to work - what happens if one of the PCs gets moved from the Lan to Wireless or the reverse ? Will it still work ? Can you not just change the printer to a fixed 192.168.1.x ip address? Serve up dhcp (192.168.1.x block) from the Draytek for client PC's, away from your fixed ip range. This will serve out ip addresses for lan and wireless (through the Linksys) clients. Linksys fixed 192.168.1.x ip address, DHCP server off. Cheers Tim -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] OT: But Relevant - Google is releasing a new video codec
On Thursday 20 May 2010, Robert Bronsdon wrote: One fishy element is MS being heavely financially invested in h264 and the MPEG-LA, it makes little sense for them to turn their backs at this juncture without something being in it for them. Since MS have a track record of appearing to support their customers while in reality screwing the maximum amount of revenue while providing the minimum amount of capability, I'm inclined to agree. They will bear watching (but they always did, so what's new). However, things *are* changing. MS products are bleeding market share. Customers are beginning to realise the nature of the beast, but more importantly they are seeing equivalent or better products becoming available which 'just work' and are cheap or free. Even more, customers are fed up with poor quality for high prices and that is helping to drive the slippage in market share. With Google products taking up the slack on the desktop and in the mobile space, MS may find themselves forced to compete and this may mean that IE will support this codec properly. Of course, MS are also known for their marketing methods and they may yet pull a rabbit out of the hat and tighten their grip in which case we can all look forward to another couple of decades of dirty tricks and a strangle-hold on technology. Personally, I doubt it. Android is currently taking the world by storm and ChomeOS will start to make its mark soon I think. That's not to mention other FLOSS products like Firefox and OpenOffice.org. The question then will be; can we really trust Google? I think so, but some are dubious. -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] networking problem - can anyone help ?
On Thu, 2010-05-20 at 07:50 +0100, Peter wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a Draytec router connected to my ISP : ip range 192.168.1.x Attached internally ie Lan, is a Linksys Wireless router - which reports that its IP address is 192.168.1.10 When I connect any machine using wireless the IP address is 192.168.2.x So I have bought an HP wireless printer: Its assigned IP: is in the 192.168.2.x range Now if I use a computer connected via wireless - I can see this printer and use it. BUT for the Lan machines I cannot - they are in range 192.168.1.x I have tried setting a route on the Lan machine - route add 192.168.2.x gw 192.168.1.10 BUT it does not appear So what have I missed here ? And finally - if I do get the route to work - what happens if one of the PCs gets moved from the Lan to Wireless or the reverse ? Will it still work ? thanks Peter Linehan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkv027IACgkQ435jXaRMus6ylwCguedB7KSeUmf9eRtlpJMoD0SV ES8An34ZEBo1ZN1ke5Lc+L4mJWj/R0UU =Gu/z -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset 1. Can you ping the printer from the wired Host? 2. Can you set the default gateway on the Draytek-to-linksys port to the IP address of the linksys port 192.168.1.10 ( Which should be a fixed IP address, not DHCP obtained) and use the port on the linksys that can be set to the default port for the printer-- Forget it - I forgot that it was wireless. Maybe the first half of 2 will work, but then I would be concerned that you lose all connection with the outside world. Peter M. -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
Re: [Dorset] networking problem - can anyone help ?
On 20/05/2010 07:50, Peter wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a Draytec router connected to my ISP : ip range 192.168.1.x Attached internally ie Lan, is a Linksys Wireless router - which reports that its IP address is 192.168.1.10 When I connect any machine using wireless the IP address is 192.168.2.x So I have bought an HP wireless printer: Its assigned IP: is in the 192.168.2.x range Now if I use a computer connected via wireless - I can see this printer and use it. BUT for the Lan machines I cannot - they are in range 192.168.1.x I have tried setting a route on the Lan machine - route add 192.168.2.x gw 192.168.1.10 BUT it does not appear So what have I missed here ? When you say does not appear, do you mean in some sort of automated setup tool?, if so it wont work as I believe they work by sending out broadcast packets and seeing if the printer responds, however the broadcast packet will not transverse IP ranges (broadcast domains). Are you able to ping the printer or get to the printers web panel if it has one? if then the current setup isn't working and you be able to print even if you put the printers IP address in when setting up the printer on your machine. You might be able to add static routes on the routers instead of the client machines to route between the 2 IP ranges. then this mean it wouldn't matter if the machine moved from wireless to lan as it should still be able to get to the printer The best solution would be to disable DCHP on the linksys router and turn in to just an access point (I think you might also have make it act as bridge, I am not sure how this would be done on the linksys wireless router, but we have done it at work with some netgear wireless routers) then the linksys router will just pass the wireless traffic on to the lan and from the lan back to the wireless clients without modifying it. It would be a Layer 2 device if you know your OSI model this would then allow both the wireless machines and lan machines to be on the same range (192.168.1.1) While I am not sure of how to do this on a linksys router if you let me know the model number I could have a look at the manual and see if I can work it out. -- Next meeting: C4L and Bournemouth, Wednesday 2010-06-02 19:00 http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ http://www.linkedin.com/groups?gid=2645413 Chat: http://www.mibbit.com/?server=irc.blitzed.orgchannel=%23dorset List info: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/dorset
