Re: [Dorset] Nexus 7 virus software, any problems?

2013-01-03 Thread Peter Merchant

On 02/01/13 18:36, Terry Coles wrote:

On Tuesday 01 Jan 2013 19:29:51 Andrew R Paterson wrote:

you state "Certainly, on desktop Linux, there are far more virus signatures
in the  virus database than there are known viruses that attack Linux."
Thats an interesting "fact", pray where did you get it from? particularily
the "known viruses that attack" linux bit.

Andrew, I think you are being a little pedantic.  When most people refer to
viruses, they include Trojans, socially engineered malware and anything else
that can generally break your machine.  Similarly, virus scanners on Windows
don't just scan for viruses; they look for all known malware and that is what
the 'virus scanners on Android would appear to do.


Google has its PLay Store just as Apple has its app store - there is no
reason for one to be more "vulnerable" than the other.

Natalie et al have already answered this one.


I remember the days of "Nobody got fired for buying IBM" the hayday of FUD.
Now it seems the AV producers are doing the same thing.
You don't have to be a genius to realise that there would be no market for
AV developers without "viruses".

True, but that doesn't stop the malware authors.


I am still waiting for someone to detail a genuine UNIX (or LInux) virus as
opposed to just being stupid and dowloading and running a script "rm -rf /".

I don't believe that the few genuine Linux/Unix 'viruses' (or malware items if
you prefer) are that simple.  In my original post, I did say that the only
attack vector on Linux is probably social engineering, but since the average
Android user is not a top-notch software engineer, they are likely to fall for
this every time.  I would hope that I wouldn't, but since I am also not a top-
notch software engineer, I prefer to play it safe.  Everyone gets fooled now
and again.


I agree about android running things as a single user, but there is a
difference with malware and viruses. AV software can find viruses but
malware is up to the user.

See above.


Interesting that I should get this in my reading today:

http://www.darkreading.com/blog/240145399/advisory-as-new-year-approaches-android-malware-detection-growing.html?cid=nl_DR_weekly_2013-01-03_html&elq=84c796594e3e4528b96c2cc2ec4a96f5

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Re: [Dorset] Nexus 7 virus software, any problems?

2013-01-03 Thread Terry Coles
On Wednesday 02 Jan 2013 22:38:53 Andrew R Paterson wrote:
> as I give up preaching to the unconvertible, 

As do I.

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Re: [Dorset] Nexus 7 virus software, any problems?

2013-01-03 Thread cam

Quoting Martin Hepworth :



Yes the apps for android arent as tighly scanned as for apple and a few
malware baring apps grt through. Do the av scanners spot them.. Not seen
any independant tests either way

Have a look at the Galaxy tab 2 7.0 8gb mid with a 32gb sdcard extra in it.
The display is better imho and adding in the sd card still works out
cheaper than the nexus.


Martin


I have a Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 8gb with 32gb SD card and will bring it to  
the meeting on 8th if anyone want to see one and try it.


I installed free AV software on to detect/prevent vitus/malware in my  
machine and to prevent any being passing on by me.


Charles Miller


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Re: [Dorset] Next Meeting - Less than one week tonight

2013-01-03 Thread Victor Churchill
On 2 January 2013 20:43, Peter Merchant  wrote:

> I won't make it - the grandchildren are back for the day.


sounds like a perfect reason for an escape :)

I should be able to make it this time, will see folks there.




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