Re: [Dorset] Strange Wireless Behaviour
I'm back home now and so back in the loop. Funnily enough, I managed to get Internet access several times since I got the original message out, but I never got a response to it. I now know that you guys did write some answers. On Monday 27 Sep 2010, Peter Merchant wrote: I wonder if it could be like my situation here at home. I have a 3Com wireless router, and when I switch off the wired LAN computer, the wireless drops it's connection. If the XP wired box is not switched on in the morning, I find it very difficult to get the linux wireless box to connect to anything outside of the router. i.e. the wireless works, and I can get to the router, but can't get out. Hmmm. Possibly. The landlord told me he switched off the router every night before he went to bed and switched it on again in the morning. He said that he didn't have any problems himself and he used wireless to access the network. I never asked him what kind of OS he had, although I'm sure it was some flavour of Windows. It seemed to me that it could only handle one computer at a time, so if I tried when he wasn't, I got on and vice-versa. In the end, I gave up and used the local resources to find out the weather, places to go, etc. In fact the weather was lousy, so I didn't get much walking done, (well not on the hills anyway, I did walk about 20 miles around Whitby / Scarborough / Pickering and anywhere else with castles, abbeys or like attractions :-) ). -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] Strange Wireless Behaviour
In the end, I gave up and used the local resources to find out the weather, places to go, etc. In fact the weather was lousy, so I didn't get much walking done, (well not on the hills anyway, I did walk about 20 miles around Whitby / Scarborough / Pickering and anywhere else with castles, abbeys or like attractions :-) ). Delightful, plenty of good food and beer to be had too. And you mustn't forget the railway. The best fish chips in Whitby is opposite the station. Hope you didn't get suckered into The Magpie. Simono -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] Strange Wireless Behaviour
On Wednesday 29 Sep 2010, Simon O'Riordan wrote: In the end, I gave up and used the local resources to find out the weather, places to go, etc. In fact the weather was lousy, so I didn't get much walking done, (well not on the hills anyway, I did walk about 20 miles around Whitby / Scarborough / Pickering and anywhere else with castles, abbeys or like attractions :-) ). Delightful, plenty of good food and beer to be had too. And you mustn't forget the railway. The best fish chips in Whitby is opposite the station. Hope you didn't get suckered into The Magpie. Simono I did the railway; Pickering to Grosmont and return. Very enjoyable. It was just like travelling on BR in the 1960s; they even had the delays ;-) The only fish and chips I had was in Scarborough. Now there's a town for fish and chips; they have about twice as many chip shops as they have pubs. -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] Strange Wireless Behaviour
When I used to get into Scarborough early in the morning I'd pop into the workman's cafe on top of the fish dock; best cup of tea, and a good egg and chips. Did the Yorkshire Post Friday night run for two years; I could drive to Scarborough in my sleep - and frequently did! Simono On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 18:41 +0100, Terry Coles wrote: On Wednesday 29 Sep 2010, Simon O'Riordan wrote: In the end, I gave up and used the local resources to find out the weather, places to go, etc. In fact the weather was lousy, so I didn't get much walking done, (well not on the hills anyway, I did walk about 20 miles around Whitby / Scarborough / Pickering and anywhere else with castles, abbeys or like attractions :-) ). Delightful, plenty of good food and beer to be had too. And you mustn't forget the railway. The best fish chips in Whitby is opposite the station. Hope you didn't get suckered into The Magpie. Simono I did the railway; Pickering to Grosmont and return. Very enjoyable. It was just like travelling on BR in the 1960s; they even had the delays ;-) The only fish and chips I had was in Scarborough. Now there's a town for fish and chips; they have about twice as many chip shops as they have pubs. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
[Dorset] Strange Wireless Behaviour
Hi All, I'm on my travels again; this time on a walking break in North Yorkshire. My digs provides free Wi-Fi so on the first evening, I successfully connected using the WEP key supplied by the landlord. The following morning, Wi-Fi connected as expected, but there was no path to the internet. When I queried this, the landlord said it was working for him and since I was off out, I didn't try any more. However, it connected and worked fine yesterday evening. Today was almost a replica of yesterday, except that in desperation this evening, I deleted the connection from the list, re-entered the key and it worked! So how come? If I'm getting a connection reported, but no path to the internet. I presume that this is something to do with DHCP; I'm certainly not getting an IP address. Why though? And why does it work some times and not others. I can't see how it can be the WEP key since it worked without interference yesterday evening. I tried ifconfig wlan1 up down and that had no effect whatsoever. Is there anything else that might get it up without the drastic measure of deleting the connection? I'm using my netbook with Ubuntu Netbook Edition 10.04. -- Terry -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] Strange Wireless Behaviour
On 27/09/10 20:53, Terry Coles wrote: Hi All, I'm on my travels again; this time on a walking break in North Yorkshire. My digs provides free Wi-Fi so on the first evening, I successfully connected using the WEP key supplied by the landlord. The following morning, Wi-Fi connected as expected, but there was no path to the internet. When I queried this, the landlord said it was working for him and since I was off out, I didn't try any more. However, it connected and worked fine yesterday evening. Today was almost a replica of yesterday, except that in desperation this evening, I deleted the connection from the list, re-entered the key and it worked! So how come? If I'm getting a connection reported, but no path to the internet. I presume that this is something to do with DHCP; I'm certainly not getting an IP address. Why though? And why does it work some times and not others. I can't see how it can be the WEP key since it worked without interference yesterday evening. I tried ifconfig wlan1 up down and that had no effect whatsoever. Is there anything else that might get it up without the drastic measure of deleting the connection? I've had similar problems in the past. 1. Check /etc/resolv.conf as essential to access the t'internet (DNS). It can get overwritten and you loose internet access. 2. Browser cache issues. Restart the browser. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] Strange Wireless Behaviour
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:53:04 +0100, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk wrote: I presume that this is something to do with DHCP; I'm certainly not getting an IP address. Sounds like this could be the problem. I can't comment on exactly how to fix this. I'm guessing Ubuntu - not sure if Ubuntu has taken on Network Manager. Restarting this is could work. I'll have a rant at this stage and say OpenBSD still has the best wireless system out there. It's not got the complete compatibility list of Network Manager and wpa supplicant. But it ruddy well works. -- Robert Bronsdon -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
Re: [Dorset] Strange Wireless Behaviour
On Mon, 2010-09-27 at 21:51 +0100, Robert Bronsdon wrote: On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:53:04 +0100, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk wrote: I presume that this is something to do with DHCP; I'm certainly not getting an IP address. Sounds like this could be the problem. I can't comment on exactly how to fix this. I'm guessing Ubuntu - not sure if Ubuntu has taken on Network Manager. Restarting this is could work. I'll have a rant at this stage and say OpenBSD still has the best wireless system out there. It's not got the complete compatibility list of Network Manager and wpa supplicant. But it ruddy well works. I wonder if it could be like my situation here at home. I have a 3Com wireless router, and when I switch off the wired LAN computer, the wireless drops it's connection. If the XP wired box is not switched on in the morning, I find it very difficult to get the linux wireless box to connect to anything outside of the router. i.e. the wireless works, and I can get to the router, but can't get out. Peter m. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth? TBD, Wednesday 2010-10-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://bit.ly/4sACa
