Re: usenet/imap
On 13 Sep 2014, at 20:37 , Edwardo Garcia wrote: > Sorry, but Nick was right, it is severe pain to get to do what we > would need, I installed dnews, and oh my god, it is so much cleaner > and configurable out the box that it took 10 minutes to configure to > be anonymous for users but still logs so we know who does what, and it > access file is as simple as postfix! unlike inn, wow so much what they > say, chalk and cheese, dnews is a dream, I do like its pull feature > for only group we want, running now since yesterday, some staff use, > we notify select users who want usenet to use, if everybody happy in > one week we ask for license, even if need pay, much cleaner, better, > and no stress set up Interesting. Where do you get your newsfeed from? I’ve often though about setting up USENET (sans binaries, natch) but just assumed that getting a feed was pretty much impossible. -- 'Yes, but humans are more important than animals,' said Brutha. 'This is a point of view often expressed by humans,' said Om. (Small Gods)
Re: usenet/imap
On 9/13/14, Nick Edwards wrote: > On 9/12/14, Edwardo Garcia wrote: >> On 9/12/14, Nick Edwards wrote: >>> On 9/11/14, Edwardo Garcia wrote: Halo, Has anyones had experiences with feeding usenet into imap folders, we like to have some group for all user, any problem with message limit? We only want the text newsgroups? >>> >>> Thats crazy! >>> >>> Depending on your news feed that will get huge over time, and if you >>> try get a back feed of existing posts, thats even crazier, my upstream >>> feeds me over FORTY THOUSAND text newsgroups. thats unrealistic to >> >> How much of these group are active? Or how many post a day on average you >> get? >> >>> feed into imap, just advertise your news server, or if you dont have >>> one, set up inn on a spare machine, hell for a couple thousand users, >>> >> We looked at inn, it is, to be blunt, a diabolical mess , the access >> file is nightmare, it no limit user concurrency or daily limit by >> default without write external code, if inn is typical, is no wonder >> usenet is not as popular this days. >> > > DNews I've heard since its unsupported now, they are. or have, given > away free keys to some who've asked. We use it, its really powerful, > awesome of system resource niceness, and so easy to configure even a > child could do it (helolo Benny LOL), try download an have a go, yo > can try-before-you-buy with anyway, and I think it still runs forever, > not crippled if you dont get a key, it just puts messages into posts > about it after a while. oh wow, as I say to Dave, yes you are right, total worlds apart, very happy now, will use dnews and forget imap intergration, even though FAQ say it easy to do, no point now, upstream is happy for us to pull a feed from rather than direct feed our imap. > DNews even has a mail gateway which would be a sinch to add to imap, > but again, thats crazy, dont do it, unless you only want a handful of > groups. > > Oh benefit of DNews is, in "pull mode" it only gets what groups are > read, so you dont need to get the full 40K groups if you dont want > them, if you want a full feed, I suggest setting it up as ihave, and > use suck2 to populate your news server with all articles of all groups > your upstream has, but be careful of bandwith requirements for that, > and I suggest you suspend your ihave until that is completed. > > This really off topic now, so if you need to talk more about it, > contact me offlist so we dont upset the crybabies. >
Re: usenet/imap
On 9/13/14, Dave McGuire wrote: > On 09/12/2014 06:33 AM, Edwardo Garcia wrote: >>> Depending on your news feed that will get huge over time, and if you >>> try get a back feed of existing posts, thats even crazier, my upstream >>> feeds me over FORTY THOUSAND text newsgroups. thats unrealistic to >> >> How much of these group are active? Or how many post a day on average you >> get? > > I realize you weren't asking me, but just to give you another data > point, my server receives about 23,000 articles per day. This is nearly > all groups minus the binaries. > >>> feed into imap, just advertise your news server, or if you dont have >>> one, set up inn on a spare machine, hell for a couple thousand users, >>> >> We looked at inn, it is, to be blunt, a diabolical mess , the access >> file is nightmare, it no limit user concurrency or daily limit by >> default without write external code, if inn is typical, is no wonder >> usenet is not as popular this days. > > With respect, this a load of crap. I was a commercial INN admin for > many years, and I run it on my own network to this day. It's a fine > piece of software, does its job very well, is easy to manage, and > generally gives no guff. > Sorry, but Nick was right, it is severe pain to get to do what we would need, I installed dnews, and oh my god, it is so much cleaner and configurable out the box that it took 10 minutes to configure to be anonymous for users but still logs so we know who does what, and it access file is as simple as postfix! unlike inn, wow so much what they say, chalk and cheese, dnews is a dream, I do like its pull feature for only group we want, running now since yesterday, some staff use, we notify select users who want usenet to use, if everybody happy in one week we ask for license, even if need pay, much cleaner, better, and no stress set up > (Of course this is coming from the perspective of someone who ran > C-news, and before that, B-news. B was mostly shell scripts!) > > Just try not to look at it as a mail server, because it isn't, and > you'll be fine with INN. > I think this might be true if you want allow world access and not care who posts where or how or how many. > And for the record, Usenet is "not as popular these days" because most > of the current inhabitants of the Internet are drooling morons who think > the Internet and the WWW are the same thing, and that it's all one big > TV. They'd never understand the concepts of Usenet in the first place. > Binaries still very popular, maybe for reason nick say
Re: Does pigeonhole regex extension support PCRE?
On 9/13/2014 2:08 PM, Lev Serebryakov wrote:
>
> I've tried to use negative look-ahead in :regex match like this:
>
> if header :regex "List-Id" ""
> { ... }
>
> and manage-sieve server complains on save about such regex with
> diagnostic "repetition operator operand invalid" :(
>
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-murchison-sieve-regex-08#section-3
Regards,
Stephan.
Does pigeonhole regex extension support PCRE?
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I've tried to use negative look-ahead in :regex match like this:
if header :regex "List-Id" ""
{ ... }
and manage-sieve server complains on save about such regex with
diagnostic "repetition operator operand invalid" :(
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Black Lion AKA Lev Serebryakov
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