Re: SIS and Filesystem level backups (was just Re: Filesystem level backups?)

2018-04-20 Thread Tanstaafl
Bummer, apparently things haven't changed (for the better) with respct
to backup sand SIS...

:(

On 4/9/2018, 12:28:31 PM, Tanstaafl  wrote:
> On 4/9/2018, 11:34:40 AM, Ivan Warren  wrote:
>> Le 4/9/2018 à 4:56 PM, DurgaPrasad - DatasoftComnet a écrit :
>>> Does doveadm backup backup the attachments as well when using SIS? 
> 
>> As far as I know, it does (it de-shares shared attachments)
>>
>> I've used that solution to stop using SIS at one point (it created
>> more problems than it solved - especially permission issues)
> 
> Hi Ivan,
> 
> Mind if I ask for details?
> 
> (and maybe Aki or Timo):
> 
> I was considering implementing SIS on a new server I'm planning (won't
> be for a few months now probably). I had decided against it a long time
> ago because it was new, and there were drawbacks (backups not being
> properly accounted for being one of the big ones). I was hoping it had
> matured a lot since then and the drawbacks at the time were mostly
> history. Maybe that is not the case?
> 
> If not, are there open bugs dealing with the issues, and plan for
> addressing them? Or is SIs just probably not ever going to be ready for
> prime time?
> 



Re: Sieve "redirect" changes envelope sender in 2.3. / pigeonhole 0.5

2018-04-20 Thread Olaf Hopp

OK, I found a solution:

trusted_users = exim:dovecot

in my exim.conf fixed it.

Anyway this is an important change of behavour between 2.2 und 2.3
In 2.2 the "dovecot" under exims "trusted_users" was not necessary.

Olaf


On 04/20/2018 02:53 PM, Olaf Hopp wrote:

On 04/20/2018 02:01 PM, Olaf Hopp wrote:

Hi (Stephan?),
is it a new feature of dovecot 2.3 /pigeonhole 0.5 that a sieve "redirect" 
changes the envelope sender of
a redirected mail or simply a bug ?

A sends mail to B, B redirects to C
C sees B (not A!) as envelope sender.
It is not a problem if C gets the mail but if that mail bounces
for various reasons it goes back to B and A will never know about this.

I thick this is came with 2.3 / pigeonhole 0.5 ?

# 2.3.1 (c5a5c0c82): /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
# Pigeonhole version 0.5.devel (61b47828)
# OS: Linux 2.6.32-696.23.1.el6.x86_64 x86_64 CentOS release 6.9 (Final)


Regards,
Olaf



I moved one version back, same config except those changes in 10-ssl.conf 
necessary for the 2.2->2.3 upgrade

# 2.2.35 (b1cb664): /opt/dovecot/etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
# Pigeonhole version 0.4.23 (b2e41927)
# OS: Linux 2.6.32-696.23.1.el6.x86_64 x86_64 CentOS release 6.9 (Final)

and this version keeps the envelope sender untouched.
So this a regression with 2.3 / 0.5
Envelope *senders* should never ever be modified.

Regards,
Olaf





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Re: Sieve "redirect" changes envelope sender in 2.3. / pigeonhole 0.5

2018-04-20 Thread Olaf Hopp

On 04/20/2018 02:01 PM, Olaf Hopp wrote:

Hi (Stephan?),
is it a new feature of dovecot 2.3 /pigeonhole 0.5 that a sieve "redirect" 
changes the envelope sender of
a redirected mail or simply a bug ?

A sends mail to B, B redirects to C
C sees B (not A!) as envelope sender.
It is not a problem if C gets the mail but if that mail bounces
for various reasons it goes back to B and A will never know about this.

I thick this is came with 2.3 / pigeonhole 0.5 ?

# 2.3.1 (c5a5c0c82): /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
# Pigeonhole version 0.5.devel (61b47828)
# OS: Linux 2.6.32-696.23.1.el6.x86_64 x86_64 CentOS release 6.9 (Final)


Regards,
Olaf



I moved one version back, same config except those changes in 10-ssl.conf 
necessary for the 2.2->2.3 upgrade

# 2.2.35 (b1cb664): /opt/dovecot/etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
# Pigeonhole version 0.4.23 (b2e41927)
# OS: Linux 2.6.32-696.23.1.el6.x86_64 x86_64 CentOS release 6.9 (Final)

and this version keeps the envelope sender untouched.
So this a regression with 2.3 / 0.5
Envelope *senders* should never ever be modified.

Regards,
Olaf


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Sieve "redirect" changes envelope sender in 2.3. / pigeonhole 0.5

2018-04-20 Thread Olaf Hopp

Hi (Stephan?),
is it a new feature of dovecot 2.3 /pigeonhole 0.5 that a sieve "redirect" 
changes the envelope sender of
a redirected mail or simply a bug ?

A sends mail to B, B redirects to C
C sees B (not A!) as envelope sender.
It is not a problem if C gets the mail but if that mail bounces
for various reasons it goes back to B and A will never know about this.

I thick this is came with 2.3 / pigeonhole 0.5 ?

# 2.3.1 (c5a5c0c82): /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf
# Pigeonhole version 0.5.devel (61b47828)
# OS: Linux 2.6.32-696.23.1.el6.x86_64 x86_64 CentOS release 6.9 (Final)


Regards,
Olaf

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ATIS - Abt. Technische Infrastruktur, Fakultät für Informatik

Dipl.-Geophys. Olaf Hopp
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Am Fasanengarten 5, Gebäude 50.34, Raum 009
76131 Karlsruhe
Telefon: +49 721 608-43973
Fax: +49 721 608-46699
E-Mail: olaf.h...@kit.edu
atis.informatik.kit.edu

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