Re: [Dovecot] About using Dovecot indexes with Thunderbird/kmail
Willie Gillespie said the following on 09/20/2011 11:35 PM: On 09/20/2011 03:37 PM, Anton Aylward wrote: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Using_Gloda Well it is off, but I still have these index files ... So perhaps its not index that taking all the space and gets rebuilt when T Bird says its downloading the headers and indexing ... Just have to ask: Is Keep messages for this account on this computer checked under the Synchronization Storage settings? :-) No, its not. I'm aware of that one. I've googled for GLODA and found some articles that makes me think its not as simple as one setting in the about:config It seems even with GLODA turned OFF (see earlier in this thread) that global-messages-db.sqlite keeps getting rebuilt - that is the index is being rebuilt. So there must be more to it. See https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Thunderbird/gloda under 'Data Storage'. Why am I making an issue of this? It seems pointless to me that I should run Dovecot on a server and let it do indexing and full text indexing in the background with the intent to offload this processing and storage from my laptop (and in due course netbook and 'Pad -- both of which will be underpowered and lacking in storage and memory compared to the mailhub server, when my preferred clients - Thunderbird and Kmail/nepomuk - are going to be doing the indexing over again. While it may not matter on a hefty laptop it is going to matter on the Asus eee and tablets. -- My definition of an expert in any field is a person who knows enough about what's really going on to be scared. P. J. Plauger, Computer Language, March 1983
Re: [Dovecot] About using Dovecot indexes with Thunderbird/kmail
Charles Marcus said the following on 09/21/2011 08:05 AM: On 2011-09-20 5:37 PM, Anton Aylward wrote: Charles Marcus said the following on 09/20/2011 04:22 PM: On 2011-09-20 4:03 PM, Anton Aylward wrote: I wish that Thunderbird would NOT index mail on my laptop, but it does. So turn it (GLODA) off... Ah https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Using_Gloda Well it is off, but I still have these index files ... You still have *what* index files? There is only one GLODA index file, and you have to manually delete it after disabling GLODA to make it go away. It will recreate itself, but it will be tiny, and remain static. global-messages-db.sqlite No, it grows. I speculate it grows as I visit new folders but am still looking into that. So perhaps its not index that taking all the space and gets rebuilt when T Bird says its downloading the headers and indexing ... It will definitely say it is downloading headers, but it shouldn't say indexing, that is GLODA. I can't say I like that but see its necessity: how else could it display them :-) But looking under ~/.thunderbird/1current/ I'm finding folders for each folder on the server that have the full text of the messages (but not in mbox format), as well as the XML styled header information. Occasionally I find binary blobs that 'strings' shows contain headers. I've deleted them but it doesn't seem to affect TBird. I'll go back and look to see if they get recreated :-( Do you have it set to download *all* messages? That is the default, and I *hate* it. NO I DO NOT! I NEVER HAVE AND I NEVER WILL That strikes me as such an obvious space-waster! I always disable it globally, then set a few select folders to only download 'on demand' (offline use) (Inbox, Sent, and a few others). Not even that. -- Television is a medium because it is neither rare nor well done. -- Fred Friendly
[Dovecot] About using Dovecot indexes with Thunderbird/kmail
I have Dovecot running well on my Mandriva mail hub, handing out IMAP to the household LAN. This is 1.2.15. Eventually I'll upgrade the OS and get 2.x, but this is working fine. So this question is really about the mail readers I use and how they make use of Dovecot. I have Thunderbird on my laptop and KMail2 on my desktop. Dovecot indexes. GOOD! The trouble is that the mail readers want their own indexes :-( I wish that Thunderbird would NOT index mail on my laptop, but it does. I wish Kmail2 would not use nepomuk/akonadi to index the mail but it does. Why can't they both believe the indexes used by Dovecot? Is this an unreasonable request? -- We stand behind all of our products, except for the manure spreader. -- Corporate motto of an equipment manufacturer
Re: [Dovecot] About using Dovecot indexes with Thunderbird/kmail
Charles Marcus said the following on 09/20/2011 04:22 PM: On 2011-09-20 4:03 PM, Anton Aylwardanton.aylw...@antonaylward.com wrote: I wish that Thunderbird would NOT index mail on my laptop, but it does. So turn it (GLODA) off... Ah https://wiki.mozilla.org/Thunderbird:Using_Gloda Well it is off, but I still have these index files ... So perhaps its not index that taking all the space and gets rebuilt when T Bird says its downloading the headers and indexing ... And then there's nepomuk I'm coming to hate nepomuk! -- Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. -- Knuth
