Re: [Dovecot] dovecot-1.2.9: OK No messages copied

2012-03-26 Thread Attila Sipos
thanks.
I find it odd that the 2nd copy attempt returns OK.
I would've thought the "expungeissued" reason would still stand.

For how long does the reason persist?  I suppose it only persists for enough 
time to issue a "NO" response?

Regards
Attila

-Original Message-
From: Timo Sirainen [mailto:t...@iki.fi] 
Sent: 26 March 2012 16:38
To: Attila Sipos
Cc: dovecot@dovecot.org
Subject: Re: [Dovecot] dovecot-1.2.9: OK No messages copied

On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 16:30 +0100, Attila Sipos wrote:
> Thanks for your time.  If you could possibly tell me how to know if an 
> IMAP "UID COPY" is successful, I would appreciate it.
> Basically I'm moving a message from one folder to another.  I thought 
> I could issue a COPY command, check for success, then delete the email 
> from the source folder.

What kind of an application are you building? Most IMAP clients would track the 
state of the mailbox, so they would already know if the UIDs exist or no before 
they do a COPY. And that's really the only solution for this.

If the client sees that some UID exists, but another session deletes it, the 
COPY will fail:

a fetch 1 uid
* 1 FETCH (UID 820)
a OK Fetch completed.
b uid copy 820 Trash
* 1 EXPUNGE
b NO [EXPUNGEISSUED] Some of the requested messages no longer exist.
c uid copy 820 Trash
c OK No messages copied.



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Re: [Dovecot] dovecot-1.2.9: OK No messages copied

2012-03-26 Thread Attila Sipos
OK, clearly I am not experienced enough in IMAP to argue.  I am sure the 
imap-protocol people will tell me to get lost!

Thanks for your time.  If you could possibly tell me how to know if an IMAP 
"UID COPY" is successful, I would appreciate it.
Basically I'm moving a message from one folder to another.  I thought I could 
issue a COPY command, check for success, then delete the email from the source 
folder.

Regards
Attila


-Original Message-
From: Timo Sirainen [mailto:t...@iki.fi] 
Sent: 26 March 2012 16:23
To: Attila Sipos
Cc: dovecot@dovecot.org
Subject: Re: [Dovecot] dovecot-1.2.9: OK No messages copied

It might be more useful from your point of view, but it might not be from from 
someone else's point of view. If you want this changed, see if you can convince 
other people in imap-protocol list. All of the widely used IMAP servers behave 
the way Dovecot does.

On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 16:13 +0100, Attila Sipos wrote:
> I can understand that if using a set of UIDS or a UID range it would be 
> complicated to return a fully-descriptive result and from what I can see, the 
> IMAP RFC author was trying to avoid this complexity.
> 
> However, it someone specifies JUST ONE UID and that UID is non-existent, then 
> a NO response could be a more useful response.  I know the spec allows a 
> response of OK but it is possible that this was not the intention for a 
> single non-existent UID.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Attila
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Timo Sirainen [mailto:t...@iki.fi]
> Sent: 26 March 2012 15:46
> To: Attila Sipos
> Cc: dovecot@dovecot.org
> Subject: Re: [Dovecot] dovecot-1.2.9: OK No messages copied
> 
> On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 14:28 +0100, Attila Sipos wrote:
> 
> > When I issue an IMAP copy command using the wrong UID, the server 
> > gives an "OK No messages copied" response.
> > 
> > This seems like the wrong response to me.
> > If the UID doesn't exist, then it should respond with a "No" 
> > response
> > - maybe something like "NO - copy error: bad UID"
> > 
> > I believe "OK No messages copied" would only be a suitable response 
> > if the email with the supplied UID had already been known to be 
> > copied successfully.
> > I am using dovecot 1.2.9 - has this been fixed in newer versions of 
> > dovecot?
> 
> Dovecot's behavior is correct. This (or things related to this) has been 
> discussed in IMAP protocol mailing list. Basically it's not an error to use 
> nonexistent UIDs. If you want details, ask in IMAP protocol ml and someone 
> will probably explain.
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Dovecot] dovecot-1.2.9: OK No messages copied

2012-03-26 Thread Attila Sipos
I can understand that if using a set of UIDS or a UID range it would be 
complicated to return a fully-descriptive result and from what I can see, the 
IMAP RFC author was trying to avoid this complexity.

However, it someone specifies JUST ONE UID and that UID is non-existent, then a 
NO response could be a more useful response.  I know the spec allows a response 
of OK but it is possible that this was not the intention for a single 
non-existent UID.

Regards

Attila


-Original Message-
From: Timo Sirainen [mailto:t...@iki.fi] 
Sent: 26 March 2012 15:46
To: Attila Sipos
Cc: dovecot@dovecot.org
Subject: Re: [Dovecot] dovecot-1.2.9: OK No messages copied

On Mon, 2012-03-26 at 14:28 +0100, Attila Sipos wrote:

> When I issue an IMAP copy command using the wrong UID, the server 
> gives an "OK No messages copied" response.
> 
> This seems like the wrong response to me.
> If the UID doesn't exist, then it should respond with a "No" response 
> - maybe something like "NO - copy error: bad UID"
> 
> I believe "OK No messages copied" would only be a suitable response if 
> the email with the supplied UID had already been known to be copied 
> successfully.
> I am using dovecot 1.2.9 - has this been fixed in newer versions of 
> dovecot?

Dovecot's behavior is correct. This (or things related to this) has been 
discussed in IMAP protocol mailing list. Basically it's not an error to use 
nonexistent UIDs. If you want details, ask in IMAP protocol ml and someone will 
probably explain.



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[Dovecot] dovecot-1.2.9: OK No messages copied

2012-03-26 Thread Attila Sipos

Hi,

When I issue an IMAP copy command using the wrong UID, the server gives
an "OK No messages copied" response.

This seems like the wrong response to me.
If the UID doesn't exist, then it should respond with a "No" response -
maybe something like "NO - copy error: bad UID"

I believe "OK No messages copied" would only be a suitable response if
the email with the supplied UID had already been known to be copied
successfully.
I am using dovecot 1.2.9 - has this been fixed in newer versions of
dovecot?

Regards

Attila

Attila Sipos

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