Re: [Dovecot] strange behavior with virtual accounts and imap

2010-10-18 Thread vladi

 On 10/13/2010 02:36 PM, Charles Marcus wrote:

Please don't top-post...

On 2010-10-13 7:15 AM, vladi wrote:

info@ is postfix alias, all mail send to info@ is distributed to all
other accounts. info@ doesn't have email in Maildir Users have
configured POP3 account for sending email via info@ every user have
configured IMAP account for his email and POP3 for info@ but via pop3
cannot receive emails for info@ because postfix doesn't store email
in info's Maildir It's a complete mistery.

Doesn't sound mysterious to me. If info@ is *only* an alias and does
*not* have its own mailbox, then each user that is included in the alias
list should receive a copy of the email in their own Inbox.

In other words, aliases are not user accounts (local or virtual) and
don't have mail delivered, so there is nothing to retrieve from 'info's
Maildir'...


I've change the system to courier and it works fine. The Q. here is
why Dovecot behaves strange

Courier can be installed as either just a standalone POP/IMAP server, or
as a complete solutions (it has an MTA component as well).

It sounds to me like you are confused on the MTA side, and you somehow
confirgured Courier to deliver mail to BOTH an info@ user account *and*
*also* alias it to other users.

Yes, they receive a copy via postfix, but if someone mark the message 
for deletion, every other account downloads his copy from his own 
independent maildir as if himself downloaded it earlier and mark it for 
deletion. It's misbehavior.


Example: I send email to info@ with subject: 'new offer': jane and john 
receive both a copy. Jane with outlook download her mail in the morning 
and delete the message. outlook mark it for deletion and leave it in her 
maildir. john later with his outlook is downloading his mail and the 
same message (his copy) is downloaded as readed and marked to be deleted 
and not as new (as it supposed to be). they don't share same or any imap 
directory. the only common between them is info@ as pop3 for sending 
emails from behalf of i...@. but in this pop3 account postfix doesn't 
store anything. its completely empty.


Re: [Dovecot] strange behavior with virtual accounts and imap

2010-10-13 Thread vladi
 info@ is postfix alias, all mail send to info@ is distributed to all 
other accounts. info@ doesn't have email in Maildir

Users have configured POP3 account for sending email via info@
every user have configured IMAP account for his email and POP3 for info@
but via pop3 cannot receive emails for info@ because postfix doesn't 
store email in info's Maildir
It's a complete mistery. I've change the system to courier and it works 
fine. The Q. here is why Dovecot behaves strange


On 10/11/2010 11:48 PM, Charles Marcus wrote:

On 2010-10-11 3:36 PM, vladi wrote:

There is one group account named info, all the mail is forwarded to
every other account.

Here, this sounds like info@ is a 'list'...


Users download their mail via Outlook (2003, 2007)
with imap.

IMAP protocol is where mail is stored on the SERVER... yes, when an IMAP
client connects, a COPY is downloaded locally for reading, but the
server retains the main/working copy.


If someone downloads email send to info and delete it after that.
Outlook stoke the message and doesn't delete it immediately, thats
normal. But if later someone else downloads his mail and it have
received the same letter to info. The message appear as if it's
already deleted by that user. But is supposed to be unreaded. I cant
find any info why is this happening. Please help

It sounds like all of them are simply talking to the same IMAP account
(info@) - in which case, that's the way IMAP works. If multiple people
are connecting to the same account (or shared folder) over IMAP, and one
person deletes a message, it is deleted for all...

Sounds like you want POP accounts, not IMAP...





[Dovecot] strange behavior with virtual accounts and imap

2010-10-11 Thread vladi

hi,
I've recently setup new mailserver with dovecot and postfix. They use 
mysql and virtual accounts.

All works perfectly except..
There is one group account named info, all the mail is forwarded to 
every other account. Users download their mail via Outlook (2003, 2007) 
with imap. If someone downloads email send to info and delete it after 
that. Outlook stoke the message and doesn't delete it immediately, thats 
normal. But if later someone else downloads his mail and it have 
received the same letter to info. The message appear as if it's already 
deleted by that user. But is supposed to be unreaded.

I cant find any info why is this happening. Please help