Re: [Dovecot] Apple mail troubles

2009-10-05 Thread Charles Sprickman

On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Romer Ventura wrote:

No problems here using Apple Mail. Used in 2 iMacs, 1 Power Book G4, 6 
iPhones and Dovecot IMAP works with no problems at all.


Same here.  Two macs running mail.app, one iPhone.  Both have 6 or 7 
accounts, the two biggest accounts talk to a Dovecot server (box w/about 
40K msgs) and a Courier server (about 20K msgs).  No bizarre issues yet.


C


Thank

On Oct 1, 2009, at 6:57 AM, Frank Bonnet wrote:


Hello

I have an Apple computer  user who has great problems
using IMAP and Dovecot.

Some same messages seems to stay in two or more folders
and are impossible to erase from the Apple mail client

Anyone has that kind of troubles ?

Thanks




Re: [Dovecot] Apple mail troubles

2009-10-05 Thread Romer Ventura
No problems here using Apple Mail. Used in 2 iMacs, 1 Power Book G4,  
6 iPhones and Dovecot IMAP works with no problems at all.


Thank

On Oct 1, 2009, at 6:57 AM, Frank Bonnet wrote:


Hello

I have an Apple computer  user who has great problems
using IMAP and Dovecot.

Some same messages seems to stay in two or more folders
and are impossible to erase from the Apple mail client

Anyone has that kind of troubles ?

Thanks




Re: [Dovecot] Apple mail troubles

2009-10-01 Thread David Warden


On Oct 1, 2009, at 8:16 AM, Frank Bonnet wrote:


Axel Luttgens wrote:

Le 1 oct. 2009 à 13:57, Frank Bonnet a écrit :

Hello

I have an Apple computer  user who has great problems
using IMAP and Dovecot.

Some same messages seems to stay in two or more folders
and are impossible to erase from the Apple mail client

Anyone has that kind of troubles ?

No.
Axel
PS: Perhaps could you tell us a bit more (client and server side),  
so that really helpful answers may be provided. ;-)


Well OK

If he try to read some messages with apple mail client some
messages seems duplicated in several IMAP folders

If I read those messages with mutt onto the server everything is clean





It sounds like your local caches in Mac Mail are confused if  
everything looks fine in Mutt. Try selecting a folder with duplicate  
messages and then hit Mailbox > Rebuild. That should delete the local  
cache for that folder and re-download all those messages, which should  
remove duplicates.


Did you recently switch from a different IMAP server to dovecot? The  
"double messages" problem usually happens when IMAP UIDs change on the  
server, and usually happens when you switch to dovecot from something  
else. We recently migrated from courier to dovecot and had to convert  
everyone's UIDs from courier to dovecot to ensure people didn't get  
double messages.


Of course, I have seen double messages in Mac Mail happen without a  
migration and it usually relates to a quota (filesystem, not IMAP  
quota) problem where clients try to delete a message and there's no  
room left to move it to the Trash folder. In that case you usually  
need to up the quota and rebuild that folder's local cache.


-David Warden

Re: [Dovecot] Apple mail troubles

2009-10-01 Thread Thomas Leuxner
On Thu, Oct 01, 2009 at 02:44:53PM +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote:
> OK thank you , but Mac users are difficult to convinct ;-)

I have used it with the 'Mail.app' that came with Leopard and I'm using it with 
Snow Leopard with no (major) problems nowadays. It has some problems when 
listing/subscribing to several namespaces, but I did not encounter the problem 
you describe. Maybe you can provide more details, what Mail.app, 'dovecot -n'?

Regards
Thomas


Re: [Dovecot] Apple mail troubles

2009-10-01 Thread Frank Bonnet

Robert Schetterer wrote:

Frank Bonnet schrieb:

Axel Luttgens wrote:

Le 1 oct. 2009 à 13:57, Frank Bonnet a écrit :


Hello

I have an Apple computer  user who has great problems
using IMAP and Dovecot.

Some same messages seems to stay in two or more folders
and are impossible to erase from the Apple mail client

Anyone has that kind of troubles ?

No.

Axel

PS: Perhaps could you tell us a bit more (client and server side), so
that really helpful answers may be provided. ;-)



Well OK

If he try to read some messages with apple mail client some
messages seems duplicated in several IMAP folders

If I read those messages with mutt onto the server everything is clean




apple mail has a long bug list with imap, as well many user dont use it
rightly , possible the double, is one mail on imap and the same on a
local copy
sometime miracle happens when migration i.e a pop3 account to imap with
apple mail
i would recommend dont use it


OK thank you , but Mac users are difficult to convinct ;-)



Re: [Dovecot] Apple mail troubles

2009-10-01 Thread Robert Schetterer
Frank Bonnet schrieb:
> Axel Luttgens wrote:
>>
>> Le 1 oct. 2009 à 13:57, Frank Bonnet a écrit :
>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> I have an Apple computer  user who has great problems
>>> using IMAP and Dovecot.
>>>
>>> Some same messages seems to stay in two or more folders
>>> and are impossible to erase from the Apple mail client
>>>
>>> Anyone has that kind of troubles ?
>>
>> No.
>>
>> Axel
>>
>> PS: Perhaps could you tell us a bit more (client and server side), so
>> that really helpful answers may be provided. ;-)
>>
>>
> 
> Well OK
> 
> If he try to read some messages with apple mail client some
> messages seems duplicated in several IMAP folders
> 
> If I read those messages with mutt onto the server everything is clean
> 
> 

apple mail has a long bug list with imap, as well many user dont use it
rightly , possible the double, is one mail on imap and the same on a
local copy
sometime miracle happens when migration i.e a pop3 account to imap with
apple mail
i would recommend dont use it
-- 
Best Regards

MfG Robert Schetterer

Germany/Munich/Bavaria


Re: [Dovecot] Apple mail troubles

2009-10-01 Thread Frank Bonnet

Axel Luttgens wrote:


Le 1 oct. 2009 à 13:57, Frank Bonnet a écrit :


Hello

I have an Apple computer  user who has great problems
using IMAP and Dovecot.

Some same messages seems to stay in two or more folders
and are impossible to erase from the Apple mail client

Anyone has that kind of troubles ?


No.

Axel

PS: Perhaps could you tell us a bit more (client and server side), so 
that really helpful answers may be provided. ;-)





Well OK

If he try to read some messages with apple mail client some
messages seems duplicated in several IMAP folders

If I read those messages with mutt onto the server everything is clean




Re: [Dovecot] Apple mail troubles

2009-10-01 Thread Axel Luttgens


Le 1 oct. 2009 à 13:57, Frank Bonnet a écrit :


Hello

I have an Apple computer  user who has great problems
using IMAP and Dovecot.

Some same messages seems to stay in two or more folders
and are impossible to erase from the Apple mail client

Anyone has that kind of troubles ?


No.

Axel

PS: Perhaps could you tell us a bit more (client and server side), so  
that really helpful answers may be provided. ;-)





[Dovecot] Apple mail troubles

2009-10-01 Thread Frank Bonnet

Hello

I have an Apple computer  user who has great problems
using IMAP and Dovecot.

Some same messages seems to stay in two or more folders
and are impossible to erase from the Apple mail client

Anyone has that kind of troubles ?

Thanks