Re: [Dovecot] Default fallback behaviour

2012-11-27 Thread Nikita Koshikov
Yes, thanks a lot - this config is working as expected.


Re: [Dovecot] Default fallback behaviour

2012-11-26 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 27.11.2012, at 9.37, Nikita Koshikov wrote:

>>> Here is the problem:
>>> I have few:
>>> passdb {
>>> #1
>>> }
>>> passdb {
>>> #2
>>> }
>>> And relative userdb sections. If user not found in 1) section it
>> fallbacks
>>> to next one - it's expected and right, IMHO. But when the user exists in
>>> both section and password verification fails on 1) database it
>> successfully
>>> authenticated on next one. I think this behaviour should be configured.
>> The
>>> main goal of 1) section for this server is to overwrite users in main
>>> (section2) database.
>> 
> Thank's for the anwer. It's a pity to hear, because it's security feature I
> need to provide. The problem  - that main passdb - is ldap and there are
> about - 5-7 people who can edit it and simply to login as different users.
> Yes, activity is logged - but mailbox can be read\stolen. The main goal for
> passwd-file database is to revrite ldap very critical mailboxes to local
> file. It can be edited only but 1 person - it is nativly to trust 1, but
> not to 7.

Try if a modified version of Alessio's suggestion works:

passdb {
  driver = passwd-file
  args = /etc/passwd.important
}
passdb {
  driver = passwd-file
  args = /etc/passwd.important
  deny = yes
}
passdb {
  driver = ldap
}



Re: [Dovecot] Default fallback behaviour

2012-11-26 Thread Nikita Koshikov
On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:04 AM, Timo Sirainen  wrote:

> On 23.11.2012, at 9.46, Nikita Koshikov wrote:
>
> > Hello list,
> >
> > Here is the problem:
> > I have few:
> > passdb {
> > #1
> > }
> > passdb {
> > #2
> > }
> > And relative userdb sections. If user not found in 1) section it
> fallbacks
> > to next one - it's expected and right, IMHO. But when the user exists in
> > both section and password verification fails on 1) database it
> successfully
> > authenticated on next one. I think this behaviour should be configured.
> The
> > main goal of 1) section for this server is to overwrite users in main
> > (section2) database.
>
> It's not always possible to know why #1 failed. For example PAM doesn't
> always tell if the password was wrong or if the user didn't exist.
>
> > Maybe I missed something and this option is already in dovecot code and I
> > can't find it ? Or if not - will it be added in the future ?
>
>
> I'm not very interested in adding it, especially because it can't be done
> reliably.
>
>
Thank's for the anwer. It's a pity to hear, because it's security feature I
need to provide. The problem  - that main passdb - is ldap and there are
about - 5-7 people who can edit it and simply to login as different users.
Yes, activity is logged - but mailbox can be read\stolen. The main goal for
passwd-file database is to revrite ldap very critical mailboxes to local
file. It can be edited only but 1 person - it is nativly to trust 1, but
not to 7.


Re: [Dovecot] Default fallback behaviour

2012-11-26 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 23.11.2012, at 9.46, Nikita Koshikov wrote:

> Hello list,
> 
> Here is the problem:
> I have few:
> passdb {
> #1
> }
> passdb {
> #2
> }
> And relative userdb sections. If user not found in 1) section it fallbacks
> to next one - it's expected and right, IMHO. But when the user exists in
> both section and password verification fails on 1) database it successfully
> authenticated on next one. I think this behaviour should be configured. The
> main goal of 1) section for this server is to overwrite users in main
> (section2) database.

It's not always possible to know why #1 failed. For example PAM doesn't always 
tell if the password was wrong or if the user didn't exist.

> Maybe I missed something and this option is already in dovecot code and I
> can't find it ? Or if not - will it be added in the future ?


I'm not very interested in adding it, especially because it can't be done 
reliably.



Re: [Dovecot] Default fallback behaviour

2012-11-25 Thread Nikita Koshikov
On Fri, 23 Nov 2012 12:20:23 +0100
Alessio Cecchi wrote:

> Il 23/11/2012 08:46, Nikita Koshikov ha scritto:
> > Hello list,
> >
> > Here is the problem:
> > I have few:
> > passdb {
> > #1
> > }
> > passdb {
> > #2
> > }
> > And relative userdb sections. If user not found in 1) section it fallbacks
> > to next one - it's expected and right, IMHO. But when the user exists in
> > both section and password verification fails on 1) database it successfully
> > authenticated on next one. I think this behaviour should be configured. The
> > main goal of 1) section for this server is to overwrite users in main
> > (section2) database.
> >
> > Maybe I missed something and this option is already in dovecot code and I
> > can't find it ? Or if not - will it be added in the future ?
> >
> > Dovecot version 2.1.10.
> >
> 
> You can enable this features by adding "deny=yes" in the passdb 
> extra_fields of specific users.
> 
> You can find more information here: 
> http://wiki2.dovecot.org/AuthDatabase/PasswdFile ot you can use the 
> "auth-deny.conf.ext" example configuration.
> 
> Ciao

Maybe I was not so clear - but this is not what I'm searching for.
deny=yes will deny user in corresponding database - I want - allow user to 
login, if and only if, users password matches and if it fail(in current passdb) 
- not trying next passdb for checking his password, even if user exists in the 
next database.


Re: [Dovecot] Default fallback behaviour

2012-11-23 Thread Alessio Cecchi

Il 23/11/2012 08:46, Nikita Koshikov ha scritto:

Hello list,

Here is the problem:
I have few:
passdb {
#1
}
passdb {
#2
}
And relative userdb sections. If user not found in 1) section it fallbacks
to next one - it's expected and right, IMHO. But when the user exists in
both section and password verification fails on 1) database it successfully
authenticated on next one. I think this behaviour should be configured. The
main goal of 1) section for this server is to overwrite users in main
(section2) database.

Maybe I missed something and this option is already in dovecot code and I
can't find it ? Or if not - will it be added in the future ?

Dovecot version 2.1.10.



You can enable this features by adding "deny=yes" in the passdb 
extra_fields of specific users.


You can find more information here: 
http://wiki2.dovecot.org/AuthDatabase/PasswdFile ot you can use the 
"auth-deny.conf.ext" example configuration.


Ciao

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[Dovecot] Default fallback behaviour

2012-11-22 Thread Nikita Koshikov
Hello list,

Here is the problem:
I have few:
passdb {
#1
}
passdb {
#2
}
And relative userdb sections. If user not found in 1) section it fallbacks
to next one - it's expected and right, IMHO. But when the user exists in
both section and password verification fails on 1) database it successfully
authenticated on next one. I think this behaviour should be configured. The
main goal of 1) section for this server is to overwrite users in main
(section2) database.

Maybe I missed something and this option is already in dovecot code and I
can't find it ? Or if not - will it be added in the future ?

Dovecot version 2.1.10.