Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot-1.2 + Sieve + Managesieve on Debian

2010-03-23 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-03-22 9:31 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 Dovecot has built in locking support for NFS storage.

But it has always been problematic, according to Timo. I think 2.0 is
supposed to help considerably with NFS issues though, so if you choose
this route, I'd highly recommend you do your testing with the 2.0 branch...

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Best regards,

Charles


Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot-1.2 + Sieve + Managesieve on Debian

2010-03-23 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 23.3.2010, at 11.42, Charles Marcus wrote:

 On 2010-03-22 9:31 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 Dovecot has built in locking support for NFS storage.
 
 But it has always been problematic, according to Timo. I think 2.0 is
 supposed to help considerably with NFS issues though,

No, v2.0 won't help at all with NFS issues. Some future version might.



Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot-1.2 + Sieve + Managesieve on Debian

2010-03-23 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-03-23 9:17 AM, Timo Sirainen wrote:
 On 23.3.2010, at 11.42, Charles Marcus wrote:
 On 2010-03-22 9:31 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
 Dovecot has built in locking support for NFS storage.

 But it has always been problematic, according to Timo. I think 2.0 is
 supposed to help considerably with NFS issues though,

 No, v2.0 won't help at all with NFS issues. Some future version might.

Oops, sorry for speaking out of turn... that must have been what I
remembered reading...

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Best regards,

Charles


[Dovecot] Dovecot-1.2 + Sieve + Managesieve on Debian

2010-03-22 Thread Proskurin Kirill

Hello!

I think about migrate from FreeBSD to Linux because I need DRBD for 
clustering.


I want to use Debian Lenny but run on some problems.

I want near latest Dovecot packages. Native repos are too old. Backports 
seems to don`t have a SieveManagesieve support and we need it(am I 
wrong?). Stephan Bosch auto packeges is not for production.


How could I solve this without make own packages?
What Debian folk`s do in this situation?

P.S. I don`t want to use RedHat like OS because I not familiar with it.

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Best regards,
Proskurin Kirill


Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot-1.2 + Sieve + Managesieve on Debian

2010-03-22 Thread Pascal Volk
On 03/22/2010 01:07 PM Proskurin Kirill wrote:
 …
 I want to use Debian Lenny but run on some problems.
 
 I want near latest Dovecot packages. Native repos are too old. Backports 
 seems to don`t have a SieveManagesieve support and we need it(am I 
 wrong?). Stephan Bosch auto packeges is not for production.

Yes, looks like you got some wrong information.
http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/i386/dovecot-common/filelist
lists currently the content of Dovecot v1.2.11, it contains also:
/usr/lib/dovecot/managesieve
/usr/lib/dovecot/managesieve-login
 …


Regards,
Pascal
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Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot-1.2 + Sieve + Managesieve on Debian

2010-03-22 Thread Steffen Kaiser

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On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Proskurin Kirill wrote:


What Debian folk`s do in this situation?


I install from source.

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Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot-1.2 + Sieve + Managesieve on Debian [SOLVED]

2010-03-22 Thread Proskurin Kirill

On 03/22/2010 03:23 PM, Steffen Kaiser wrote:

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On Mon, 22 Mar 2010, Proskurin Kirill wrote:


What Debian folk`s do in this situation?


I install from source.


Not Debian way at all.
Make package from source - may be.

 Yes, looks like you got some wrong information.
 http://packages.debian.org/lenny-backports/i386/dovecot-common/filelist
 lists currently the content of Dovecot v1.2.11, it contains also:
/usr/lib/dovecot/managesieve
/usr/lib/dovecot/managesieve-login

Ops, thank you!
Usually debian pkg is very splited and I thing what they cut sieve and 
managesieve from base package.



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Proskurin Kirill


Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot-1.2 + Sieve + Managesieve on Debian

2010-03-22 Thread Papp Tamas
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 03:07:26PM +0300, Proskurin Kirill wrote:
 Hello!
 
 I think about migrate from FreeBSD to Linux because I need DRBD for 
 clustering.
 
 I want to use Debian Lenny but run on some problems.
 
 I want near latest Dovecot packages. Native repos are too old. Backports 
 seems to don`t have a SieveManagesieve support and we need it(am I 
 wrong?). Stephan Bosch auto packeges is not for production.
 
 How could I solve this without make own packages?
 What Debian folk`s do in this situation?
 
 P.S. I don`t want to use RedHat like OS because I not familiar with it.

I'm not a big freebsd fun, but wou should check this:

http://svn.freebsd.org/viewvc/base?view=revisionrevision=204076

Also deb packages are available here:

http://xi.rename-it.nl/debian/


tamas


Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot-1.2 + Sieve + Managesieve on Debian

2010-03-22 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Papp Tamas put forth on 3/22/2010 9:18 AM:
 On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 03:07:26PM +0300, Proskurin Kirill wrote:
 Hello!

 I think about migrate from FreeBSD to Linux because I need DRBD for 
 clustering.

Need? There are many paths to high availability, DRDB is but one.  You
could stick with BSD and implement an NFS server for shared mailbox storage.
 NFS is very popular for this purpose, widely deployed, well understood, and
supportable.  I'd guess there are many users on this list using shared NFS
storage.

You could also install an inexpensive iSCSI SAN storage box and use a
cluster file system such as GFS for mailbox storage, although I don't know
if GFS is available for BSD.

Given the ubiquity of NFS, I'd recommend you stick with BSD for now and
build a reliable NFS server for mailbox storage.  You will be able to get
ample assistance here and around the web for this setup.  Dovecot has built
in locking support for NFS storage.  It can be done inexpensively as well,
thanks to Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-Proliant-DL380-G4-dual-3-4ghz-4gb-6x72gb-10k_W0QQitemZ120468840192QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCOMP_EN_Servers?hash=item1c0c809f00

This is but an example, as this seller doesn't ship to Hungary.  I'm sure
you can find something similar to build your NFS server upon.

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Stan