Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot vs Exim file locking

2009-12-21 Thread Ibrahim Harrani
Hi,

I am trying to deploy large e-mail system but I will use qmail-ldap on Linux
and maildir will be mounted by all backends from Netapp via NFS.

In LDAP, there will be only one mailhost entry. All qmail-ldap backends will
have same name and will run dovecot instance. So, all users can access to
mailbox from any server in the pool.  If I distribute users with different
mailhosts and if one mailhost server is down,
the users will not able to access their mailbox until fix the problem or
change mailhost entry with working one.

But I don't know the NFS issues in my planned setup. Do you think that I
will face
same NFS locks/problem(OS based) with Netapp NFS?

Thanks in advance.

On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Daniel Campos dcam...@cesex.com wrote:

 Hi Ecuardo,Timo, thanks for your answers!

 -Mensaje original-
 De: Timo Sirainen [mailto:t...@iki.fi]
 Enviado el: viernes, 18 de diciembre de 2009 15:30
 Para: Daniel Campos
 CC: dovecot@dovecot.org
 Asunto: Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot vs Exim file locking

 On Dec 18, 2009, at 8:41 AM, Daniel Campos wrote:

  We're planning to deploy a large e-mail system storing maildirs in a NAS
  system through NFS. One of the options we're thinking on is using
  Dovecot+EXIM.
 
  As far as I've read in both project's documentation, both services
 implement
  locking allowing multiple servers to access the same maildirs in order to
  distribute the service load.

 Mail deliveries don't require any locks with maildir. But for Dovecot, be
 sure to read http://wiki.dovecot.org/NFS


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Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot vs Exim file locking

2009-12-20 Thread Daniel Campos
Hi Ecuardo,Timo, thanks for your answers!

-Mensaje original-
De: Timo Sirainen [mailto:t...@iki.fi] 
Enviado el: viernes, 18 de diciembre de 2009 15:30
Para: Daniel Campos
CC: dovecot@dovecot.org
Asunto: Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot vs Exim file locking

On Dec 18, 2009, at 8:41 AM, Daniel Campos wrote:

 We're planning to deploy a large e-mail system storing maildirs in a NAS
 system through NFS. One of the options we're thinking on is using
 Dovecot+EXIM.
 
 As far as I've read in both project's documentation, both services
implement
 locking allowing multiple servers to access the same maildirs in order to
 distribute the service load.

Mail deliveries don't require any locks with maildir. But for Dovecot, be
sure to read http://wiki.dovecot.org/NFS


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[Dovecot] Dovecot vs Exim file locking

2009-12-18 Thread Daniel Campos
Hi all:

We're planning to deploy a large e-mail system storing maildirs in a NAS
system through NFS. One of the options we're thinking on is using
Dovecot+EXIM.

As far as I've read in both project's documentation, both services implement
locking allowing multiple servers to access the same maildirs in order to
distribute the service load. However, I can't find any information
explaining whether both locking mechanisms are compatible, whether any
additional configuration is needed both in Dovecot and/or EXIM, or even
whether any locking synchronization between both services is
needed/recommendable at all.

The only remote clue I've found is that, according to Dovecot docs: Because
Dovecot uses its own non-standard locking (dovecot-uidlist.lock dotlock
file), other MUAs accessing the maildir don't support it. (but EXIM is not
a MUA, anyway)

Anyhow theoretically MailDir could even be considered free of locking
problems, but I'm not sure of the real implications of putting together
several Exim and Dovecot installations pointing to the same NFS filesystem. 

Any knowledge/experience/link/clue on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Daniel Campos
 



Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot vs Exim file locking

2009-12-18 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI

On Sex, 18 Dez 2009, Daniel Campos wrote:

We're planning to deploy a large e-mail system storing maildirs in a NAS
system through NFS. One of the options we're thinking on is using
Dovecot+EXIM.

As far as I've read in both project's documentation, both services implement
locking allowing multiple servers to access the same maildirs in order to
distribute the service load. However, I can't find any information
explaining whether both locking mechanisms are compatible, whether any
additional configuration is needed both in Dovecot and/or EXIM, or even
whether any locking synchronization between both services is
needed/recommendable at all.

The only remote clue I've found is that, according to Dovecot docs: Because
Dovecot uses its own non-standard locking (dovecot-uidlist.lock dotlock
file), other MUAs accessing the maildir don't support it. (but EXIM is not
a MUA, anyway)

Anyhow theoretically MailDir could even be considered free of locking
problems, but I'm not sure of the real implications of putting together
several Exim and Dovecot installations pointing to the same NFS filesystem.

Any knowledge/experience/link/clue on this would be greatly appreciated.


As far as I know, maildir does not require locking.

I used sometime exim + dovecot without problems. Now I use dovecot's  
deliver, by doing that you'll certainly have no problems.




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Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot vs Exim file locking

2009-12-18 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Dec 18, 2009, at 8:41 AM, Daniel Campos wrote:

 We're planning to deploy a large e-mail system storing maildirs in a NAS
 system through NFS. One of the options we're thinking on is using
 Dovecot+EXIM.
 
 As far as I've read in both project's documentation, both services implement
 locking allowing multiple servers to access the same maildirs in order to
 distribute the service load.

Mail deliveries don't require any locks with maildir. But for Dovecot, be sure 
to read http://wiki.dovecot.org/NFS