Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-08 Thread Steve

 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Fri, 08 Jan 2010 00:55:45 -0600
> Von: Stan Hoeppner 
> An: dovecot@dovecot.org
> Betreff: Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What 
> is best IMAP enabled webmail packageto go with Dovecot?

> 
> On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 12:23:50 -0500, Thomas Harold
> 
> wrote:
> > On 1/6/2010 11:38 AM, Steve wrote:
> >>
> >> An advice on another nice Web enabled mail client? Have you looked at
> >> SOGo? Have a look at their online demo ->
> >> http://www.scalableogo.org/tour/online_demo.html
> >>
> >> It has more to offer then RoundCube (aka: Calendaring,
> >> synchronization with Funambol, etc).
> > 
> > Ah? (perks up ears at the mention of Funambol)
> > 
> > And SOGo plays nicely with postfix + dovecot?
> 
> I saw that suggestion and checked out the online demo at the SOGo site. 
> Aside from the fantastic look/feel of the UI, the one thing that really
> caught my attention is the "right click" context menu on messages, like
> that in a full MUA such as T-Bird.  The right click feature is really darn
> sweet for a free webmail client.  I must take a closer look at SOGo.  As
> you can see from the header of my email I'm already taking Roundcube for a
> spin, although I'm on an old version, relying on the Debian Lenny backport
> package.
> 
RoundCube is a great Web app. It's written by a Swiss guy (I am from 
Switzerland too). So it can only be good :)

SOGo is as well a great app. On my setup I offer Squirrel Mail, RoundCube, 
Horde, SOGo Monotone/Trunk (dev version) and Group Office. Most people like the 
more advanced packages like SOGo, Group Office and Horde.

I personally like Squirrel Mail the most since it is so lean and it's not 
disturbing me with additional stuff that I don't need (mostly I check mail over 
Web while I am out of office and then I just need to quickly read and reply. 
That's it).


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>
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Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-07 Thread Steve

 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Thu, 07 Jan 2010 12:23:50 -0500
> Von: Thomas Harold 
> An: dovecot@dovecot.org
> Betreff: Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What 
> is best IMAP enabled webmail packageto go with Dovecot?

> On 1/6/2010 11:38 AM, Steve wrote:
> >
> > An advice on another nice Web enabled mail client? Have you looked at
> > SOGo? Have a look at their online demo ->
> > http://www.scalableogo.org/tour/online_demo.html
> >
> > It has more to offer then RoundCube (aka: Calendaring,
> > synchronization with Funambol, etc).
> 
> Ah? (perks up ears at the mention of Funambol)
> 
> And SOGo plays nicely with postfix + dovecot?
>
Yes. SOGo does not care much about Postfix or Dovecot. It uses standard SMTP 
and standard IMAP/POP.

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Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-07 Thread Thomas Harold

On 1/6/2010 11:38 AM, Steve wrote:


An advice on another nice Web enabled mail client? Have you looked at
SOGo? Have a look at their online demo ->
http://www.scalableogo.org/tour/online_demo.html

It has more to offer then RoundCube (aka: Calendaring,
synchronization with Funambol, etc).


Ah? (perks up ears at the mention of Funambol)

And SOGo plays nicely with postfix + dovecot?



Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-07 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI
aja-li...@tni.org wrote:
> If you try Roundcube for a while you might find out nice features,
> like the "del" key works for deleting an email, drag and drop is
> possible, and there's "email auto completion" within the email compose
> window, and you can add email-addresses in emails to the address-book
> with just one mouse click.
>
> Drawbacks I've found in RoundCube so far : I couldn't find out how to 
> toggle individual emails in the mailbox window, and the search options 
> seem rather limited compared to Squirrelmail, and RoundCube only has one 
> official skin/theme included.
>   

Also, according to the site threading support does not exist yet (but it
is planned). To me this is a big no-no.


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Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-06 Thread aja-lists

On 01/04/2010 10:00 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

Hi,


So, what's the best FOSS IMAP enabled web mail front end with a
modern look/feel?  I'd like to run it on lighttpd, which I'm already
 using, not apache.


I'm using RoundCube 0.3.x (from the RoundCube website) + mysql + apache2
on Debian Lenny, and I'm very pleased with it so far.

In the RC configuration I have set the "preview pane" on by default, I
don't understand why it was off by default (The comment in the config
file even mentions that "preview pane" on is better), so I recommend
doing that too.

And I suggest that you install/enable at least the "address book
compose" plugin, and the "squirrelmail copy prefs" plugins.

I found out that the "squirrelmail copy prefs" RC plugin even converts
the address-books from Squirrelmail :) !!
But note : this plugin apparently works only at the first RC login of an
user, so make sure the "squirrelmail copy prefs" plugin is installed and
configured correctly before you log in as your user.

Make sure you read enough about how to install and configure RC,
and secure at least the directories "temp" and "logs", and make sure
that the RC .htaccess files work with your lighttpd installation.

If you try Roundcube for a while you might find out nice features,
like the "del" key works for deleting an email, drag and drop is
possible, and there's "email auto completion" within the email compose
window, and you can add email-addresses in emails to the address-book
with just one mouse click.

Drawbacks I've found in RoundCube so far : I couldn't find out how to 
toggle individual emails in the mailbox window, and the search options 
seem rather limited compared to Squirrelmail, and RoundCube only has one 
official skin/theme included.


(And for the record : imho Squirrelmail is a very decent webmail,
too bad that the very nice themes for it are closed source and
commercially priced, and I really dislike installing/configuring and
using Horde)

Regards,
Adrian




Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-06 Thread Steve

 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Wed, 06 Jan 2010 10:31:18 -0600
> Von: Stan Hoeppner 
> An: Dovecot Mailing List 
> Betreff: Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What 
> is best IMAP enabled webmail packageto go with Dovecot?

> David Abrahams put forth on 1/5/2010 1:44 PM:
> > At Mon, 4 Jan 2010 22:08:22 +0100,
> > Egbert Jan van den Bussche wrote:
> >>
> >> Welcome! 
> >> Have a look at RoundCube webmail. I used to use squirrelmail but had
> the
> >> same issues as you. RoundCube is very nice.
> > 
> > I second that emotion
> 
> After a bit of researching, I've decided to go with Roundcube.  However,
> my
> Linux distribution doesn't have a standard package of Roundcube, only a
> backport
> of Roundcube, version 0.2.2.
> 
> Normally I really prefer to stick with distro packages for my application
> needs,
> for a variety of reasons, mainly easy installation of security updates and
> dependency resolution.
> 
> Aptitude handles dependencies very well, so I'd really like to go with the
> Debian backport of Roundcube 2.2, **unless** there are majorly needed
> functionality upgrades or major bug fixes in the 0.3.1 available directly
> from
> the roundcube.net download section.
> 
> What will I be missing if I go with the Debian 0.2.2 backport instead of
> the
> current 0.3.1?  Are there any other Debian users here who have
> recommendations
> or advice?  Are there any installation gotchas via either the backport
> method or
> the straight install method via the roundcube.net files?
> 
> Thanks for any/all advice.
> 
An advice on another nice Web enabled mail client? Have you looked at SOGo? 
Have a look at their online demo -> 
http://www.scalableogo.org/tour/online_demo.html

It has more to offer then RoundCube (aka: Calendaring, synchronization with 
Funambol, etc).


> --
> Stan
>
// Steve
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Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-06 Thread Stan Hoeppner
David Abrahams put forth on 1/5/2010 1:44 PM:
> At Mon, 4 Jan 2010 22:08:22 +0100,
> Egbert Jan van den Bussche wrote:
>>
>> Welcome! 
>> Have a look at RoundCube webmail. I used to use squirrelmail but had the
>> same issues as you. RoundCube is very nice.
> 
> I second that emotion

After a bit of researching, I've decided to go with Roundcube.  However, my
Linux distribution doesn't have a standard package of Roundcube, only a backport
of Roundcube, version 0.2.2.

Normally I really prefer to stick with distro packages for my application needs,
for a variety of reasons, mainly easy installation of security updates and
dependency resolution.

Aptitude handles dependencies very well, so I'd really like to go with the
Debian backport of Roundcube 2.2, **unless** there are majorly needed
functionality upgrades or major bug fixes in the 0.3.1 available directly from
the roundcube.net download section.

What will I be missing if I go with the Debian 0.2.2 backport instead of the
current 0.3.1?  Are there any other Debian users here who have recommendations
or advice?  Are there any installation gotchas via either the backport method or
the straight install method via the roundcube.net files?

Thanks for any/all advice.

--
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Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-05 Thread David Abrahams
At Mon, 4 Jan 2010 22:08:22 +0100,
Egbert Jan van den Bussche wrote:
> 
> Welcome! 
> Have a look at RoundCube webmail. I used to use squirrelmail but had the
> same issues as you. RoundCube is very nice.

I second that emotion

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Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-05 Thread Eric Rostetter

Quoting Stan Hoeppner :

I've looked a little at both now and am still reading.  One thing I  
don't like
is that I'm seeing requirements a SQL server.  That adds unnecessary  
complexity

to the system and I'd rather avoid it if possible.  IIRC, one of the


You can/could run Horde/IMP without a SQL DB.  Some Horde modules may not
work without it, but the basic e-mail functionality can be used without
any SQL DB.  Some features may also be slower without it, but that doesn't
mean it won't work or be useful without it.

--
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The Department of Physics
The University of Texas at Austin

Go Longhorns!


Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-05 Thread Eric Rostetter

Quoting Stan Hoeppner :


So, what's the best FOSS IMAP enabled web mail front end with a modern
look/feel?  I'd like to run it on lighttpd, which I'm already using,  
not apache.


www.horde.org would work (there are debian ports).  As to which is best,
depends on who you listen to. :)

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The Department of Physics
The University of Texas at Austin

Go Longhorns!


Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-05 Thread Thomas Harold

On 1/5/2010 1:32 AM, Ken Price wrote:


If this is more than a hobby system, then you'll need to account for
address books and personal settings for your users - at the least.  That
means some sort of backend database.


I've been looking at Funambol lately to support some Blackberry users 
(we're not running BES).  If I understand it correctly, it will let us 
sync our TBird address book (and Lightning Calendar/Tasks) to the 
Blackberry and possibly to additional copies of Thunderbird.


http://www.funambol.com/

(I've also been looking at some of the groupware solutions like SoGo.)


Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-05 Thread Thomas Harold

On 1/4/2010 4:00 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

Greetings everyone,

I'd like to install a webmail package on the same host.  I used Squirrelmail for
this purpose many years ago and I wasn't wholly impressed with the user
interface.  I'm also not impressed by the fact that I regularly receive spam
from compromised Squirrelmail hosts/accounts.  I really like the look/feel of
the Scalix Web Access AJAX based interface, but I can't/won't use Scalix as it's
not supported on Debian, it has more features than I need, and the system
requirements are a bit steep.



SquirrelMail or RoundCube.  We have SM setup currently and I plan on 
setting up RoundCube sometime in January.


Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-05 Thread Geert Hendrickx
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 09:15:54AM -0200, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:
> On Ter, 05 Jan 2010, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> >I've looked a little at both now and am still reading.  One thing I
> >don't like is that I'm seeing requirements a SQL server.  That adds
> >unnecessary complexity to the system and I'd rather avoid it if
> >possible.  IIRC, one of the reasons I chose Squirrelmail a few years
> >ago was that it's requirements were pretty simple, and that it didn't
> >require a database backend for anything.
> 
> IMP/Horde can work with a sqlite database, which is just a file and
> requires no running server.


Same for Roundcube, btw.


Geert



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Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-05 Thread Eduardo M KALINOWSKI

On Ter, 05 Jan 2010, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
I've looked a little at both now and am still reading.  One thing I  
don't like
is that I'm seeing requirements a SQL server.  That adds unnecessary  
complexity
to the system and I'd rather avoid it if possible.  IIRC, one of the  
reasons I

chose Squirrelmail a few years ago was that it's requirements were pretty
simple, and that it didn't require a database backend for anything.


IMP/Horde can work with a sqlite database, which is just a file and  
requires no running server.




--
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Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-05 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 5.1.2010, at 10.17, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

>> v1.1+ has somewhat faster search code. At least it's using boyer-moore with 
>> some of my own uglyness to make it support incremental searches. Wonder if 
>> there's a nicer and faster way to do that than what I implemented.
> 
> Hi Timo,
> 
> I'm not sure if you saw my original post.  I'm using Dovecot 1.0.15 (Debian
> Lenny package) so I'm quite behind the current Dovecot rev.

I did, and I agree that it's Dovecot's searching code that's the bottleneck in 
your system, that's why I said it should work faster (with less CPU usage) in 
v1.1. You could get a v1.2 Debian package from backports.org.

And you're right, Dovecot doesn't try to use threads to do searching faster. I 
don't think it's all that useful in most installations, and implementing it is 
too much work.

Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-05 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Timo Sirainen put forth on 1/5/2010 1:32 AM:
> On 5.1.2010, at 7.44, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> 
>> As we can see from the 1% I/O wait on CPU0 and 0% on CPU1, it's seems pretty
>> clear that the CPUs are being occupied by the dovecot search code, not by 
>> disk
>> I/O.
> 
> v1.1+ has somewhat faster search code. At least it's using boyer-moore with 
> some of my own uglyness to make it support incremental searches. Wonder if 
> there's a nicer and faster way to do that than what I implemented.

Hi Timo,

I'm not sure if you saw my original post.  I'm using Dovecot 1.0.15 (Debian
Lenny package) so I'm quite behind the current Dovecot rev.  Also, the (very
basic) search performance data I posted previously is from rather old hardware,
a dual Celeron 550 MHz machine with PC100 RAM, although the SATA controller and
500GB 7.2Krpm (16MB cache) disk are fairly current technology and relatively
speedy.  Though, I don't believe the storage subsystem is much in play during
this search.  The numbers below lead me to believe the mbox file under query is
almost entirely in cache.

Here's some more performance data for the search in question, in case it might
be useful to you:

Cpu0  :  0.2%us,  0.1%sy,  0.0%ni, 99.7%id,  0.1%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu0  :  0.0%us,  1.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 99.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu0  :  0.0%us,  1.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 99.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu0  : 31.4%us,  2.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 66.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu0  : 41.2%us,  2.9%sy,  0.0%ni, 54.9%id,  1.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu0  :  5.9%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 94.1%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu0  :  1.0%us,  1.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 98.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu0  : 10.8%us,  2.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 87.3%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu0  : 53.5%us,  4.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 41.6%id,  1.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu0  : 11.8%us,  2.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 85.3%id,  1.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu0  :  0.0%us,  1.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 99.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu0  :  0.0%us,  1.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 99.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st

Cpu1  :  0.2%us,  0.1%sy,  0.0%ni, 99.7%id,  0.1%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu1  : 13.7%us,  1.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 85.3%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu1  : 83.3%us,  6.9%sy,  0.0%ni,  8.8%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  1.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu1  : 62.4%us,  5.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 32.7%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu1  : 51.5%us,  4.9%sy,  0.0%ni, 42.7%id,  1.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu1  : 88.1%us,  5.9%sy,  0.0%ni,  5.0%id,  1.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu1  : 92.1%us,  7.9%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu1  : 80.2%us,  5.9%sy,  0.0%ni, 12.9%id,  1.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu1  : 41.2%us,  2.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 56.9%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu1  : 81.6%us,  3.9%sy,  0.0%ni, 13.6%id,  1.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu1  : 92.2%us,  7.8%sy,  0.0%ni,  0.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu1  : 82.0%us,  4.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 14.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st

Mem:387044k total,   319144k used,67900k free,21284k buffers
Mem:387044k total,   319268k used,67776k free,21284k buffers
Mem:387044k total,   319276k used,67768k free,21284k buffers
Mem:387044k total,   319276k used,67768k free,21284k buffers
Mem:387044k total,   319276k used,67768k free,21284k buffers
Mem:387044k total,   319276k used,67768k free,21284k buffers
Mem:387044k total,   319276k used,67768k free,21284k buffers
Mem:387044k total,   319268k used,67776k free,21292k buffers
Mem:387044k total,   319268k used,67776k free,21292k buffers
Mem:387044k total,   319268k used,67776k free,21292k buffers
Mem:387044k total,   319268k used,67776k free,21292k buffers
Mem:387044k total,   319268k used,67776k free,21292k buffers

Swap:   995988k total,  440k used,   995548k free,   232492k cached
Swap:   995988k total,  440k used,   995548k free,   232500k cached
Swap:   995988k total,  440k used,   995548k free,   232512k cached
Swap:   995988k total,  440k used,   995548k free,   232556k cached
Swap:   995988k total,  440k used,   995548k free,   232576k cached
Swap:   995988k total,  440k used,   995548k free,   232596k cached
Swap:   995988k total,  440k used,   995548k free,   232608k cached
Swap:   995988k total,  440k used,   995548k free,   232620k cached
Swap:   995988k total,  440k used,   995548k free,   232660k cached
Swap:   995988k total,  440k used,   995548k free,   232676k cached
Swap:   995988k total,  440k used,   995548k free,   232688k cached
Swap:   995988k total,  440k used,   995548k free,   232696k cached

--
Stan


Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-04 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 5.1.2010, at 7.44, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

> As we can see from the 1% I/O wait on CPU0 and 0% on CPU1, it's seems pretty
> clear that the CPUs are being occupied by the dovecot search code, not by disk
> I/O.

v1.1+ has somewhat faster search code. At least it's using boyer-moore with 
some of my own uglyness to make it support incremental searches. Wonder if 
there's a nicer and faster way to do that than what I implemented.



Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-04 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Rick Romero put forth on 1/4/2010 3:14 PM:
> 
> Are you sure the CPU is pegged from CPU and not disk I/O?  I used to
> import 160GB of InnoDB data on a quad core (U320/RAID 10) and after the
> cache would fill up, only 1 core would show as pegged because the disk
> I/O wasn't fast enough.  Seems like the index on 10k messages might be
> kinda big.  Got more RAM lying around?  Just a guess.

I guess I didn't look closely enough before stating that.  I saw an imap process
eating 99 %CPU and 'assumed' it was one thread, which is usually the case when I
see one process listed as 99% in top.  Upon further inspection, it would seem
it's more than one thread, but the combined CPU usage is being shown in top as
99, which fooled me upon first glance.

top - 23:09:04 up 23 days, 22:49,  1 user,  load average: 0.08, 0.02, 0.01
Tasks:  50 total,   2 running,  48 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu0  : 59.2%us,  4.9%sy,  0.0%ni, 34.9%id,  1.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Cpu1  : 32.1%us,  3.0%sy,  0.0%ni, 64.9%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,  0.0%si,  0.0%st
Mem:387044k total,   331396k used,55648k free,22808k buffers
Swap:   995988k total,  428k used,   995560k free,   239544k cached

  PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+  COMMAND
 9161 stan  20   0 26776  22m  22m R   99  6.1   0:10.77 imap

As we can see from the 1% I/O wait on CPU0 and 0% on CPU1, it's seems pretty
clear that the CPUs are being occupied by the dovecot search code, not by disk
I/O.  Recall that I'm using mbox format, so we're dealing with a single file
with 10,600 email messages within, not 10,600 individual files as is the case
with maildir.  This particular mbox "folder/file" with the 10K+ messages is 46MB
in size.  There are few users and the host is very lightly loaded at this point.
 My guess is that this file has been wholly (or very nearly so) cached in the
Linux page and/or buffer caches.  This would tend to explain the phenomenal body
search speed on such low end hardware.

> I like Horde (extendability) and Roundcube (speed), and would recommend
> using imapproxy for either webmail system.  It helps speed things up.

I've looked a little at both now and am still reading.  One thing I don't like
is that I'm seeing requirements a SQL server.  That adds unnecessary complexity
to the system and I'd rather avoid it if possible.  IIRC, one of the reasons I
chose Squirrelmail a few years ago was that it's requirements were pretty
simple, and that it didn't require a database backend for anything.

--
Stan


Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-04 Thread Patrick Domack
I also like horde, but I will say it's not exactly an easy learning  
curve for most people. The new dimp client makes things easier, while  
losing lots of features.


For simple, and easy to install roundcube is the way to go. If you  
want max power from a webmail package, defently horde.


Quoting Spyros Tsiolis :


Hi Stan,

i would suggest the (very) powerfull horde bundle of packages.
not only webmail but also reminder calendar and and many more.

http://www.horde.org

That's what i am doing these days (trying to make dovecot work with
horde that is).

HTH,

s.


--- On Mon, 4/1/10, Stan Hoeppner  wrote:


From: Stan Hoeppner 
Subject: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so  
far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

To: dovecot@dovecot.org
Date: Monday, 4 January, 2010, 23:00
Greetings everyone,

I'm new to the list as of today.  I just installed
Dovecot a couple of days ago
for the first time, Debian Lenny Dovecot v1.0.15-2.3. 
So far I'm pretty
impressed.  I'm using mbox format with Dovecot
auto-deciding to place mail in
user home directories, which is great.  It works very
well with the Win32
Thunderbird 3 client over a small basic 100FDX switched
net.  I've got one list
mail folder with 10,600 messages and server side body
searching that folder via
T-Bird is very quick, on the order of 5 seconds.  It
would probably be quicker
if Dovecot threaded the search to use both CPUs, but
pegging just the one CPU
the search is still very darn quick.  And this is on a
dual P2-550 class machine
with only 384MB RAM and a single 500GB 7200RPM SATA drive.

I'd like to install a webmail package on the same
host.  I used Squirrelmail for
this purpose many years ago and I wasn't wholly impressed
with the user
interface.  I'm also not impressed by the fact that I
regularly receive spam
from compromised Squirrelmail hosts/accounts.  I
really like the look/feel of
the Scalix Web Access AJAX based interface, but I
can't/won't use Scalix as it's
not supported on Debian, it has more features than I need,
and the system
requirements are a bit steep.

So, what's the best FOSS IMAP enabled web mail front end
with a modern
look/feel?  I'd like to run it on lighttpd, which I'm
already using, not apache.

Thanks in advance for any advice.  My apologies if my
first post is a little OT,
but I figured there's probably no better place to ask about
the best webmail
front end for Dovecot than here.

--
Stan












Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-04 Thread Spyros Tsiolis
Hi Stan,

i would suggest the (very) powerfull horde bundle of packages.
not only webmail but also reminder calendar and and many more.

http://www.horde.org

That's what i am doing these days (trying to make dovecot work with
horde that is).

HTH,

s.


--- On Mon, 4/1/10, Stan Hoeppner  wrote:

> From: Stan Hoeppner 
> Subject: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is 
> best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?
> To: dovecot@dovecot.org
> Date: Monday, 4 January, 2010, 23:00
> Greetings everyone,
> 
> I'm new to the list as of today.  I just installed
> Dovecot a couple of days ago
> for the first time, Debian Lenny Dovecot v1.0.15-2.3. 
> So far I'm pretty
> impressed.  I'm using mbox format with Dovecot
> auto-deciding to place mail in
> user home directories, which is great.  It works very
> well with the Win32
> Thunderbird 3 client over a small basic 100FDX switched
> net.  I've got one list
> mail folder with 10,600 messages and server side body
> searching that folder via
> T-Bird is very quick, on the order of 5 seconds.  It
> would probably be quicker
> if Dovecot threaded the search to use both CPUs, but
> pegging just the one CPU
> the search is still very darn quick.  And this is on a
> dual P2-550 class machine
> with only 384MB RAM and a single 500GB 7200RPM SATA drive.
> 
> I'd like to install a webmail package on the same
> host.  I used Squirrelmail for
> this purpose many years ago and I wasn't wholly impressed
> with the user
> interface.  I'm also not impressed by the fact that I
> regularly receive spam
> from compromised Squirrelmail hosts/accounts.  I
> really like the look/feel of
> the Scalix Web Access AJAX based interface, but I
> can't/won't use Scalix as it's
> not supported on Debian, it has more features than I need,
> and the system
> requirements are a bit steep.
> 
> So, what's the best FOSS IMAP enabled web mail front end
> with a modern
> look/feel?  I'd like to run it on lighttpd, which I'm
> already using, not apache.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any advice.  My apologies if my
> first post is a little OT,
> but I figured there's probably no better place to ask about
> the best webmail
> front end for Dovecot than here.
> 
> --
> Stan
> 





Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-04 Thread Rick Romero


Are you sure the CPU is pegged from CPU and not disk I/O?  I used to  
import 160GB of InnoDB data on a quad core (U320/RAID 10) and after  
the cache would fill up, only 1 core would show as pegged because the  
disk I/O wasn't fast enough.  Seems like the index on 10k messages  
might be kinda big.  Got more RAM lying around?  Just a guess.


I like Horde (extendability) and Roundcube (speed), and would  
recommend using imapproxy for either webmail system.  It helps speed  
things up.


Rick

Quoting "Stan Hoeppner" :


Greetings everyone,

I'm new to the list as of today.  I just installed Dovecot a couple  
of days ago

for the first time, Debian Lenny Dovecot v1.0.15-2.3.  So far I'm pretty
impressed.  I'm using mbox format with Dovecot auto-deciding to place mail in
user home directories, which is great.  It works very well with the Win32
Thunderbird 3 client over a small basic 100FDX switched net.  I've  
got one list
mail folder with 10,600 messages and server side body searching that  
folder via
T-Bird is very quick, on the order of 5 seconds.  It would probably  
be quicker

if Dovecot threaded the search to use both CPUs, but pegging just the one CPU
the search is still very darn quick.  And this is on a dual P2-550  
class machine

with only 384MB RAM and a single 500GB 7200RPM SATA drive.

I'd like to install a webmail package on the same host.  I used  
Squirrelmail for

this purpose many years ago and I wasn't wholly impressed with the user
interface.  I'm also not impressed by the fact that I regularly receive spam
from compromised Squirrelmail hosts/accounts.  I really like the look/feel of
the Scalix Web Access AJAX based interface, but I can't/won't use  
Scalix as it's

not supported on Debian, it has more features than I need, and the system
requirements are a bit steep.

So, what's the best FOSS IMAP enabled web mail front end with a modern
look/feel?  I'd like to run it on lighttpd, which I'm already using,  
not apache.


Thanks in advance for any advice.  My apologies if my first post is  
a little OT,

but I figured there's probably no better place to ask about the best webmail
front end for Dovecot than here.

--
Stan







Re: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-04 Thread Egbert Jan van den Bussche
Welcome! 
Have a look at RoundCube webmail. I used to use squirrelmail but had the
same issues as you. RoundCube is very nice.

Egbert Jan

> -Oorspronkelijk bericht-
> Van: dovecot-bounces+egbert=vandenbussche...@dovecot.org 
> [mailto:dovecot-bounces+egbert=vandenbussche...@dovecot.org] 
> Namens Stan Hoeppner
> Verzonden: maandag 4 januari 2010 22:01
> Aan: dovecot@dovecot.org
> Onderwerp: [Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really 
> impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package 
> to go with Dovecot?
> 
> 
> Greetings everyone,
> 
> I'm new to the list as of today.  I just installed Dovecot a 
> couple of days ago for the first time, Debian Lenny Dovecot 
> v1.0.15-2.3.  So far I'm pretty impressed.  I'm using mbox 
> format with Dovecot auto-deciding to place mail in user home 
> directories, which is great.  It works very well with the 
> Win32 Thunderbird 3 client over a small basic 100FDX switched 
> net.  I've got one list mail folder with 10,600 messages and 
> server side body searching that folder via T-Bird is very 
> quick, on the order of 5 seconds.  It would probably be 
> quicker if Dovecot threaded the search to use both CPUs, but 
> pegging just the one CPU the search is still very darn quick. 
>  And this is on a dual P2-550 class machine with only 384MB 
> RAM and a single 500GB 7200RPM SATA drive.
> 
> I'd like to install a webmail package on the same host.  I 
> used Squirrelmail for this purpose many years ago and I 
> wasn't wholly impressed with the user interface.  I'm also 
> not impressed by the fact that I regularly receive spam from 
> compromised Squirrelmail hosts/accounts.  I really like the 
> look/feel of the Scalix Web Access AJAX based interface, but 
> I can't/won't use Scalix as it's not supported on Debian, it 
> has more features than I need, and the system requirements 
> are a bit steep.
> 
> So, what's the best FOSS IMAP enabled web mail front end with 
> a modern look/feel?  I'd like to run it on lighttpd, which 
> I'm already using, not apache.
> 
> Thanks in advance for any advice.  My apologies if my first 
> post is a little OT, but I figured there's probably no better 
> place to ask about the best webmail front end for Dovecot than here.
> 
> --
> Stan
> 



[Dovecot] First time Dovecot user, really impressed so far. What is best IMAP enabled webmail package to go with Dovecot?

2010-01-04 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Greetings everyone,

I'm new to the list as of today.  I just installed Dovecot a couple of days ago
for the first time, Debian Lenny Dovecot v1.0.15-2.3.  So far I'm pretty
impressed.  I'm using mbox format with Dovecot auto-deciding to place mail in
user home directories, which is great.  It works very well with the Win32
Thunderbird 3 client over a small basic 100FDX switched net.  I've got one list
mail folder with 10,600 messages and server side body searching that folder via
T-Bird is very quick, on the order of 5 seconds.  It would probably be quicker
if Dovecot threaded the search to use both CPUs, but pegging just the one CPU
the search is still very darn quick.  And this is on a dual P2-550 class machine
with only 384MB RAM and a single 500GB 7200RPM SATA drive.

I'd like to install a webmail package on the same host.  I used Squirrelmail for
this purpose many years ago and I wasn't wholly impressed with the user
interface.  I'm also not impressed by the fact that I regularly receive spam
from compromised Squirrelmail hosts/accounts.  I really like the look/feel of
the Scalix Web Access AJAX based interface, but I can't/won't use Scalix as it's
not supported on Debian, it has more features than I need, and the system
requirements are a bit steep.

So, what's the best FOSS IMAP enabled web mail front end with a modern
look/feel?  I'd like to run it on lighttpd, which I'm already using, not apache.

Thanks in advance for any advice.  My apologies if my first post is a little OT,
but I figured there's probably no better place to ask about the best webmail
front end for Dovecot than here.

--
Stan