Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Label Updates not showing up across shared account

2011-06-09 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 06:22:52PM +0200, Markus Schönhaber wrote:
 08.06.2011 14:59, Timo Sirainen:
 
  Well, this was an interesting message. multipart/alternative where first
  part was text and second part a GIF image.
 
 To me, it seems the second part is not a GIF but rather a
 multipart/related which, in turn, contains the GIF as first (and only)
 part. Maybe that's what confuses some clients.

According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIME#Alternative, the parts of
a multipart/alternative are supposed to be ordered by increasing
faithfulness. Typically, this means plain text followed by HTML or rich
text. In this case, the mime structure is implying that the
multipart/related bundle is a truer representation than the plain text.

This also explains why mutt doesn't miss a beat with these messages. It
can't display the GIF, so the next best option is the plain text :)


-- 
Paul Saunders


Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Label Updates not showing up across shared account

2011-06-08 Thread Ricardo Branco
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Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Label Updates not showing up across shared account

2011-06-08 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 10:23 +0100, Ricardo Branco wrote:

Well, this was an interesting message. multipart/alternative where first
part was text and second part a GIF image. My email client decided that
it preferred showing the GIF image to text (which was its right, as it
was an alternative).

 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; en-GB;
 rv:1.9.2.17)
  Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10

I wonder if it was generated by Thunderbird or something else..




Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Label Updates not showing up across shared account

2011-06-08 Thread Ricardo Branco
inline: wenn_logo_plus_offices.gif

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Label Updates not showing up across shared account

2011-06-08 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 08.06.2011 15:16, schrieb Ricardo Branco:

well i am only seeing your
wenn_logo_plus_offices.gif in thunderbird
no text at all, for your body text i had to choose header view

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MfG Robert Schetterer

Germany/Munich/Bavaria


Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Label Updates not showing up across shared account

2011-06-08 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2011-06-08 10:18 AM, Robert Schetterer wrote:
 Am 08.06.2011 15:16, schrieb Ricardo Branco:
 
 well i am only seeing your
 wenn_logo_plus_offices.gif in thunderbird
 no text at all, for your body text i had to choose header view

I don't see any body text anywhere, headers or the body, all I see is
the logo - I thought he was just messing up sending blank emails...

Ricardo, something is seriously broken on your mail system.

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Best regards,

Charles


Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Label Updates not showing up across shared account

2011-06-08 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 08.06.2011 16:26, schrieb Charles Marcus:
 On 2011-06-08 10:18 AM, Robert Schetterer wrote:
 Am 08.06.2011 15:16, schrieb Ricardo Branco:

 well i am only seeing your
 wenn_logo_plus_offices.gif in thunderbird
 no text at all, for your body text i had to choose header view
 
 I don't see any body text anywhere, headers or the body, all I see is
 the logo - I thought he was just messing up sending blank emails...
 
 Ricardo, something is seriously broken on your mail system.
 

my bet goes to mailscanner
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MfG Robert Schetterer

Germany/Munich/Bavaria


Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Label Updates not showing up across shared account

2011-06-08 Thread Ricardo Branco
inline: wenn_logo_plus_offices.gif

Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Label Updates not showing up across shared account

2011-06-08 Thread Ricardo Branco

Right ive turned off my local Thunderbird sig, hopefully this now works.

I did several tests against my hotmail/gmail accounts and also other accounts in the office instead of sending to the 
mailing list and all were received ok, it seems to only go wrong though the maillist.


Charles Marcus wrote, On 08/06/2011 15:26:

On 2011-06-08 10:18 AM, Robert Schetterer wrote:

Am 08.06.2011 15:16, schrieb Ricardo Branco:

well i am only seeing your
wenn_logo_plus_offices.gif in thunderbird
no text at all, for your body text i had to choose header view

I don't see any body text anywhere, headers or the body, all I see is
the logo - I thought he was just messing up sending blank emails...

Ricardo, something is seriously broken on your mail system.



Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Label Updates not showing up across shared account

2011-06-08 Thread Charles Marcus
Please don't top-post...

On 2011-06-08 10:49 AM, Ricardo Branco wrote:
 Charles Marcus wrote, On 08/06/2011 15:26:
 On 2011-06-08 10:18 AM, Robert Schetterer wrote:
 Am 08.06.2011 15:16, schrieb Ricardo Branco:

 well i am only seeing your
 wenn_logo_plus_offices.gif in thunderbird
 no text at all, for your body text i had to choose header view

 I don't see any body text anywhere, headers or the body, all I see is
 the logo - I thought he was just messing up sending blank emails...

 Ricardo, something is seriously broken on your mail system.

 Right ive turned off my local Thunderbird sig, hopefully this now
 works.

 I did several tests against my hotmail/gmail accounts and also other
 accounts in the office instead of sending to the mailing list and all
 were received ok, it seems to only go wrong though the maillist.

Well, we got the body text this time... it certainly isn't the
Thunderbird sig itself, because that's what I use (for many many years
now), but maybe the sig is triggering something in your mailscanner setup...

-- 

Best regards,

Charles


Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Label Updates not showing up across shared account

2011-06-08 Thread Ricardo Branco

Charles Marcus wrote, On 08/06/2011 16:09:

Please don't top-post...

On 2011-06-08 10:49 AM, Ricardo Branco wrote:

Charles Marcus wrote, On 08/06/2011 15:26:

On 2011-06-08 10:18 AM, Robert Schetterer wrote:

Am 08.06.2011 15:16, schrieb Ricardo Branco:

well i am only seeing your
wenn_logo_plus_offices.gif in thunderbird
no text at all, for your body text i had to choose header view

I don't see any body text anywhere, headers or the body, all I see is
the logo - I thought he was just messing up sending blank emails...

Ricardo, something is seriously broken on your mail system.

Right ive turned off my local Thunderbird sig, hopefully this now



works.

I did several tests against my hotmail/gmail accounts and also other
accounts in the office instead of sending to the mailing list and all
were received ok, it seems to only go wrong though the maillist.

Well, we got the body text this time... it certainly isn't the
Thunderbird sig itself, because that's what I use (for many many years
now), but maybe the sig is triggering something in your mailscanner setup...


The stuff thats going on in the latest TB, you never know if it could.
Weird it happens to this mailinglist though and no other reports so far of people not getting emails and as said my 
tests seemed all ok.
Anyway back to the point of the original message, I suspect TB having an issue handling IMAP Tag updates coming from the 
server.


Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Label Updates not showing up across shared account

2011-06-08 Thread Markus Schönhaber
08.06.2011 14:59, Timo Sirainen:

 Well, this was an interesting message. multipart/alternative where first
 part was text and second part a GIF image.

To me, it seems the second part is not a GIF but rather a
multipart/related which, in turn, contains the GIF as first (and only)
part. Maybe that's what confuses some clients.

 My email client decided that
 it preferred showing the GIF image to text (which was its right, as it
 was an alternative).

My Thunderbird does so too. RoundCube, OTOH,  showes the text.

-- 
Regards
  mks


Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Label Updates not showing up across shared account

2011-06-07 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 10:44 +0100, Ricardo Branco wrote:
 Dovecot 2.0.13
 Centos 5.4 x86_64 2.6.18-164.9.1.el5 (on ESXi)
 OS/Logs on local storage, /home all on NFS server for datastore (NFS Store 
 Centos 5.5 x86_64 2.6.18-194.11.1.el5)
 Thunderbird 3.1.10 on XP/W7 Desktops
 
 We are seeing a werid issue where there is a delay of up to a few mins in 
 seeing label updates on messages.
 I have confirmed that Thunderbird is sending the update to the server with 
 WireShark, its just additional users 
 connected to the same mailbox do not see them.

Are the two clients connecting to the same Dovecot server?

 Marking a message as Seen/Un-Seen happens faster just not labels.
 If you have a label set when you mark a message as Seen/Un-Seen the other 
 clients then see the update straight away.

I don't see how that could be possible. Did you check with wireshark
when Thunderbird received the \Seen flag change or the label change? You
could try also if you can manually reproduce this with telnet:

telnet localhost 143
a login user pass
b select inbox

do the same with another session then run c idle in first session and
in the second one run:

c store 1 +flags $Label1

Did it report immediately to the first IDLEing session about the label
change?



Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Label Updates not showing up across shared account

2011-06-07 Thread Ricardo Branco
anyone seen this issue, its still plaguing us and also seems to have a 
knock on affect as our blackberries are seeing messages late


On 24/05/2011 10:44, Ricardo Branco wrote:

Dovecot 2.0.13
Centos 5.4 x86_64 2.6.18-164.9.1.el5 (on ESXi)
OS/Logs on local storage, /home all on NFS server for datastore (NFS 
Store Centos 5.5 x86_64 2.6.18-194.11.1.el5)

Thunderbird 3.1.10 on XP/W7 Desktops

We are seeing a werid issue where there is a delay of up to a few mins 
in seeing label updates on messages.
I have confirmed that Thunderbird is sending the update to the server 
with WireShark, its just additional users connected to the same 
mailbox do not see them.

Marking a message as Seen/Un-Seen happens faster just not labels.
If you have a label set when you mark a message as Seen/Un-Seen the 
other clients then see the update straight away.





Re: [Dovecot] IMAP Label Updates not showing up across shared account

2011-06-07 Thread Timo Sirainen
I answered this some hours ago. If you don't read all mails to mailing list, 
don't set the Reply-To: header to mailing list.

On 8.6.2011, at 0.54, Ricardo Branco wrote:

 anyone seen this issue, its still plaguing us and also seems to have a knock 
 on affect as our blackberries are seeing messages late
 
 On 24/05/2011 10:44, Ricardo Branco wrote:
 Dovecot 2.0.13
 Centos 5.4 x86_64 2.6.18-164.9.1.el5 (on ESXi)
 OS/Logs on local storage, /home all on NFS server for datastore (NFS Store 
 Centos 5.5 x86_64 2.6.18-194.11.1.el5)
 Thunderbird 3.1.10 on XP/W7 Desktops
 
 We are seeing a werid issue where there is a delay of up to a few mins in 
 seeing label updates on messages.
 I have confirmed that Thunderbird is sending the update to the server with 
 WireShark, its just additional users connected to the same mailbox do not 
 see them.
 Marking a message as Seen/Un-Seen happens faster just not labels.
 If you have a label set when you mark a message as Seen/Un-Seen the other 
 clients then see the update straight away.
 
 
 



[Dovecot] IMAP Label Updates not showing up across shared account

2011-05-24 Thread Ricardo Branco

Dovecot 2.0.13
Centos 5.4 x86_64 2.6.18-164.9.1.el5 (on ESXi)
OS/Logs on local storage, /home all on NFS server for datastore (NFS Store 
Centos 5.5 x86_64 2.6.18-194.11.1.el5)
Thunderbird 3.1.10 on XP/W7 Desktops

We are seeing a werid issue where there is a delay of up to a few mins in 
seeing label updates on messages.
I have confirmed that Thunderbird is sending the update to the server with WireShark, its just additional users 
connected to the same mailbox do not see them.

Marking a message as Seen/Un-Seen happens faster just not labels.
If you have a label set when you mark a message as Seen/Un-Seen the other 
clients then see the update straight away.


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