Re: [Dovecot] Pros and cons of having folders under INBOX vs. not

2013-04-18 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 4/18/2013 1:51 AM, Rich Wales wrote:
> I have some questions about whether I should set up folders under
> INBOX vs. having them outside the INBOX namespace.
> 
> I'm setting up a new Dovecot 2.2.0 on an Ubuntu 12.04.2 server.
> 
> My plan is to move my users (family members) to this new server from
> an old Cyrus server.
> 
> Everybody is currently using (and will continue to use) IMAP, and
> either Thunderbird or SquirrelMail as their e-mail client.
> 
> I'm using the maildir mailbox format on this new Dovecot server.
> 
> No one is using the new Dovecot server yet, so I'm still free to do
> additional tweaking of the server configuration.
> 
> When I used imapsync to copy everyone's mail to the new server, I
> found that all the folders (other than INBOX) were renamed.  On the
> old Cyrus server, all the folders are subfolders of INBOX, but the
> folders on the new Dovecot server are not.  (For example, a folder
> named "INBOX.Dovecot" on the old server was renamed to "Dovecot" on
> the new server by the imapsync utility.)
> 
> Can I just keep things this way on the new server?  Or are my users
> going to run into problems if folders are not all under INBOX?  I
> do realize that IMAP servers can be set up either to put everything
> under INBOX, or not, but I'm not familiar with all the pros/cons.

It's a new server which requires a new MUA configuration, folder
subscriptions, etc.  Any mail sorting or other folder based MUA rules
will have to be rewritten regardless.  So the namespace hierarchy
shouldn't really matter from a technical standpoint.

What matters is if your family members are able and, more importantly,
willing, to adapt to a new namespace layout.

> And if I do need (or want) to put all the folders under INBOX, can
> I simply rename the existing folders in each user's Maildir (and
> also edit folder names accordingly in everyone's "subscriptions"
> file)?  Or will Dovecot be broken unless I recopy everything from
> scratch (with a command-line option to imapsync to put everything
> in the INBOX destination namespace)?

I don't think your directory renaming method will work, at least not in
isolation.  I think you'll still need to tweak your Dovecot namespace
config.

-- 
Stan



[Dovecot] Pros and cons of having folders under INBOX vs. not

2013-04-17 Thread Rich Wales
I have some questions about whether I should set up folders under
INBOX vs. having them outside the INBOX namespace.

I'm setting up a new Dovecot 2.2.0 on an Ubuntu 12.04.2 server.

My plan is to move my users (family members) to this new server from
an old Cyrus server.

Everybody is currently using (and will continue to use) IMAP, and
either Thunderbird or SquirrelMail as their e-mail client.

I'm using the maildir mailbox format on this new Dovecot server.

No one is using the new Dovecot server yet, so I'm still free to do
additional tweaking of the server configuration.

When I used imapsync to copy everyone's mail to the new server, I
found that all the folders (other than INBOX) were renamed.  On the
old Cyrus server, all the folders are subfolders of INBOX, but the
folders on the new Dovecot server are not.  (For example, a folder
named "INBOX.Dovecot" on the old server was renamed to "Dovecot" on
the new server by the imapsync utility.)

Can I just keep things this way on the new server?  Or are my users
going to run into problems if folders are not all under INBOX?  I
do realize that IMAP servers can be set up either to put everything
under INBOX, or not, but I'm not familiar with all the pros/cons.

And if I do need (or want) to put all the folders under INBOX, can
I simply rename the existing folders in each user's Maildir (and
also edit folder names accordingly in everyone's "subscriptions"
file)?  Or will Dovecot be broken unless I recopy everything from
scratch (with a command-line option to imapsync to put everything
in the INBOX destination namespace)?

Rich Wales
ri...@richw.org