Re: [Dovecot] mail_log_events, but who exactly triggered events? [feature request]
On Thursday 30 of January 2014, Steffen Kaiser wrote: On Thu, 30 Jan 2014, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 30.01.2014 12:04, schrieb Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz: On Thursday 30 of January 2014, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 30.01.2014 10:50, schrieb Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz: mail_log_events is nice addition but how to log who exactly triggered particular event? For example 5 users from 5 IP addresses uses single imap user/mailbox. One of them deletes email and I'm logging delete related events. The only logged thing is: dovecot: imap(user): delete: box=INBOX, uid=673287, msgid=some@thing, size=1230 Here is a feature request: Add optionally (or unconditionally) logging of session id in mail_log_events. Timo, is this possible? (the same session id that appears in login log entries: dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=someone2, method=PLAIN, rip=aaa, lip=yyy, mpid=11682, TLS, session=U1lD9y3xoQBPuvZx) So for example this would get logged: dovecot: imap(user): delete: box=INBOX, uid=673287, msgid=some@thing, size=1230, session=U1lD9y3xoQBPuvZx @Arkadiusz, please tell us, if 10 people use the same account name and password, how would you as a server behind the internet with a human brain differ those 10 individuals? The only idea I, personally, have is the IP address: Do they connect from different IP addresses _all_ the time? No NAT involved? Do you know who uses which IP address _all_ the time? If so, Dovecot logs the IP address during login and you can associate a PID with an IP address, IMHO you can add the remote IP address to the log string. Check out the variables page in the Wiki. But, frankly, _if_ you have someone, who is bad and deletes important mail, you should see sensible reason to disallow such work style. The next time you see yet another IP address and don't know the user again. Ok, but why session id that's assigned at login cannot be logged in mail_log_events, too? Is there any technical problem with this approach? It solves the problem (yes, assume different IP addresses; won't work obviously if the address is the same) The discussion is now about changing the way service is used by people while I'm more interested in what dovecot can do or (enhancing) dovecot capabilities. -- Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz, arekm / maven.pl
Re: [Dovecot] mail_log_events, but who exactly triggered events? [feature request]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz wrote: Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 13:09:15 +0100 From: Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz ar...@maven.pl To: dovecot@dovecot.org Subject: Re: [Dovecot] mail_log_events, but who exactly triggered events? [feature request] On Thursday 30 of January 2014, Steffen Kaiser wrote: On Thu, 30 Jan 2014, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 30.01.2014 12:04, schrieb Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz: On Thursday 30 of January 2014, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 30.01.2014 10:50, schrieb Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz: mail_log_events is nice addition but how to log who exactly triggered particular event? For example 5 users from 5 IP addresses uses single imap user/mailbox. One of them deletes email and I'm logging delete related events. The only logged thing is: dovecot: imap(user): delete: box=INBOX, uid=673287, msgid=some@thing, size=1230 Here is a feature request: Add optionally (or unconditionally) logging of session id in mail_log_events. Timo, is this possible? (the same session id that appears in login log entries: dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=someone2, method=PLAIN, rip=aaa, lip=yyy, mpid=11682, TLS, session=U1lD9y3xoQBPuvZx) So for example this would get logged: dovecot: imap(user): delete: box=INBOX, uid=673287, msgid=some@thing, size=1230, session=U1lD9y3xoQBPuvZx did you've tried this: http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Variables there is the session variable and the mail_log_prefix setting. Should work, IMHO. @Arkadiusz, please tell us, if 10 people use the same account name and password, how would you as a server behind the internet with a human brain differ those 10 individuals? The only idea I, personally, have is the IP address: Do they connect from different IP addresses _all_ the time? No NAT involved? Do you know who uses which IP address _all_ the time? If so, Dovecot logs the IP address during login and you can associate a PID with an IP address, IMHO you can add the remote IP address to the log string. Check out the variables page in the Wiki. But, frankly, _if_ you have someone, who is bad and deletes important mail, you should see sensible reason to disallow such work style. The next time you see yet another IP address and don't know the user again. Ok, but why session id that's assigned at login cannot be logged in mail_log_events, too? Is there any technical problem with this approach? It solves the problem (yes, assume different IP addresses; won't work obviously if the address is the same) The discussion is now about changing the way service is used by people while I'm more interested in what dovecot can do or (enhancing) dovecot capabilities. - -- Steffen Kaiser -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) iQEVAwUBUvDil3D1/YhP6VMHAQKYPAf/Y19YFhmfNUcOa8AckcE5u1G9b36za9MH HS2hcTjKI4k1iKHFhMS7cdKoeH0uHQaq0SWOhqH8jAssDh+YpnOTrmAdr2gJDHVi rX9JSXoD/VgkQKptoc+EEgumEnHIrdu0GNjp5Jz2kKjM0prv+GscTJuoaSMhOjr2 xL/BxW3q85HsGmSQbxbHp5mcZiBZe0WFrz0U/vAfA0LO/mUBYfNmze+BXM867asc aMEtMk9JahBUEPuNOzxqU9Qf70LlYkfV2Fw48+tpuGByG7yjkI5OXc8Flh47Z0jN 4OAHSPwVblh7LJuOM7DAlpPO8mbJOlVhMVxDisazxDwHO1oTq1rnPQ== =oGnE -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Dovecot] mail_log_events, but who exactly triggered events? [feature request]
On Tuesday 04 of February 2014, Steffen Kaiser wrote: On Tue, 4 Feb 2014, Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz wrote: Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 13:09:15 +0100 From: Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz ar...@maven.pl To: dovecot@dovecot.org Subject: Re: [Dovecot] mail_log_events, but who exactly triggered events? [feature request] On Thursday 30 of January 2014, Steffen Kaiser wrote: On Thu, 30 Jan 2014, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 30.01.2014 12:04, schrieb Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz: On Thursday 30 of January 2014, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 30.01.2014 10:50, schrieb Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz: mail_log_events is nice addition but how to log who exactly triggered particular event? For example 5 users from 5 IP addresses uses single imap user/mailbox. One of them deletes email and I'm logging delete related events. The only logged thing is: dovecot: imap(user): delete: box=INBOX, uid=673287, msgid=some@thing, size=1230 Here is a feature request: Add optionally (or unconditionally) logging of session id in mail_log_events. Timo, is this possible? (the same session id that appears in login log entries: dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=someone2, method=PLAIN, rip=aaa, lip=yyy, mpid=11682, TLS, session=U1lD9y3xoQBPuvZx) So for example this would get logged: dovecot: imap(user): delete: box=INBOX, uid=673287, msgid=some@thing, size=1230, session=U1lD9y3xoQBPuvZx did you've tried this: http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Variables there is the session variable and the mail_log_prefix setting. Should work, IMHO. Wow, easy. Works nicely. Thanks! -- Arkadiusz Miśkiewicz, arekm / maven.pl
