Re: [Dovecot] update of current quota usage
On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 19:10 +0100, fl...@pbartels.info wrote: > > If you removed spam messages and purged trash via IMAP you wouldn't have > > to worry about updating quota. > > > > I mean if you do this directly on the server using a "croned" script. Yes, but I meant that you could rewrite your script in a way that it uses IMAP to do the actualy work, instead of modifying the filesystem directly. For example with v1.2 you could do it easily: printf "1 select Trash 2 search return (save) before 01-jan-2009 3 store $ +flags.silent \deleted 4 expunge 5 logout " | dovecot --exec-mail imap v1.1 doesn't have the return (save) and $ feature though, so it would need a more interactive script. > >> What did you mean with too much work? > > > > I mean that currently quota is updated only while changes are actually > > done. To be able to figure out when mailbox changes were done outside > > Dovecot it would need to keep some kind of state which > > messages/mailboxes were added to quota and which weren't. Index files > > help somewhat in implementing that, but it's still a lot of extra code. > > > > Yes as I see it quota usage is only done if something is done via > IMAP, or perhaps if you fetch mail via POP?! (not tested). Quota is updated whenever Dovecot is the one doing changes and quota plugin is loaded. So assuming you've added mail_plugins=quota inside pop3 section, Dovecot pop3 updates the quota. > And then it > is not recalculated, it's just updated like if you remove a file the > quota is decreased of filesize, etc. Yes. Recalculating quota all the time would be way too much unnecessary work. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Dovecot] update of current quota usage
Timo Sirainen wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 18:47 +0100, fl...@pbartels.info wrote: > Yes. It's too much work for Dovecot to try to figure out all the > different things you might be doing under it. You can anyway easily make > Dovecot recalculate the quota: delete the user's quota usage row from > the database. > > Well, thats a very simple solution. Also for my example. If I copy some mailboxes to the server I just remove the quota usage row and dovecot recalculates it. I can do this too, if I remove some spam messages or purge the trash... If you removed spam messages and purged trash via IMAP you wouldn't have to worry about updating quota. I mean if you do this directly on the server using a "croned" script. What did you mean with too much work? I mean that currently quota is updated only while changes are actually done. To be able to figure out when mailbox changes were done outside Dovecot it would need to keep some kind of state which messages/mailboxes were added to quota and which weren't. Index files help somewhat in implementing that, but it's still a lot of extra code. Yes as I see it quota usage is only done if something is done via IMAP, or perhaps if you fetch mail via POP?! (not tested). And then it is not recalculated, it's just updated like if you remove a file the quota is decreased of filesize, etc. That's ok if you're only using IMAP and if you can trust that all works fine. But there is also the behavior that dovecot calculates the usage if its not yet set and that is useful. I think the best solution for me is just to remove the row after I made some changes in the mailbox and then dovecot will recalc. the quota usage at the next action, like reciving a mail... So you just have to know that you have to remove the quota usage informations after you did something in the mailbox and then dovecot recalculates it for you. (I thought I must write a script that summarizes the usage and update the database...) Thank you
Re: [Dovecot] update of current quota usage
On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 18:47 +0100, fl...@pbartels.info wrote: > > Yes. It's too much work for Dovecot to try to figure out all the > > different things you might be doing under it. You can anyway easily make > > Dovecot recalculate the quota: delete the user's quota usage row from > > the database. > > > > > > Well, thats a very simple solution. Also for my example. If I copy > some mailboxes to the server I just remove the quota usage row and > dovecot recalculates it. I can do this too, if I remove some spam > messages or purge the trash... If you removed spam messages and purged trash via IMAP you wouldn't have to worry about updating quota. > What did you mean with too much work? I mean that currently quota is updated only while changes are actually done. To be able to figure out when mailbox changes were done outside Dovecot it would need to keep some kind of state which messages/mailboxes were added to quota and which weren't. Index files help somewhat in implementing that, but it's still a lot of extra code. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [Dovecot] update of current quota usage
Timo Sirainen wrote: On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 11:43 +0100, fl...@pbartels.info wrote: For example I copy some mailboxes to my server, then the current quota for this mailboxes is still zero. Is it correct that dovecot can't do this for me? Yes. It's too much work for Dovecot to try to figure out all the different things you might be doing under it. You can anyway easily make Dovecot recalculate the quota: delete the user's quota usage row from the database. Well, thats a very simple solution. Also for my example. If I copy some mailboxes to the server I just remove the quota usage row and dovecot recalculates it. I can do this too, if I remove some spam messages or purge the trash... What did you mean with too much work? (It's able to do it and you said yes it can't but it can as you said later.) Thank you, Philipp
Re: [Dovecot] update of current quota usage
On Fri, 2009-03-20 at 11:43 +0100, fl...@pbartels.info wrote: > For example I copy some mailboxes to my server, then the current quota > for this mailboxes is still zero. > > Is it correct that dovecot can't do this for me? Yes. It's too much work for Dovecot to try to figure out all the different things you might be doing under it. You can anyway easily make Dovecot recalculate the quota: delete the user's quota usage row from the database. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[Dovecot] update of current quota usage
Hello, I use Dovecot 1.1.11 and store the current quota usage in a Database. As far I can see it, the quota usage is updated each time dovecot performs an action on a mail. For example if a new mail is stored in the inbox, the current quota usage is increased. If a mail is deleted the quota usage is decreased. If there are still existing E-Mails in the inbox, before quota is turned on or if I perfom changes on the "mail storage" myself (for example purging trash or spam, or something) the current quota usage is NOT updated automatically by dovecot. For example I copy some mailboxes to my server, then the current quota for this mailboxes is still zero. Is it correct that dovecot can't do this for me? If yes, it seems I have to write my own (simple) update script and run it sometimes croned (because I don't really trust the actual quota implementation) and/or I have to update the current quota usage each time I perform actions myself. This "workaround" is easy by using a DB storage, but what about other implementations? Wouldn't it be nice if dovecot could do this or provide a tool for it? Thank you! Philipp
