Re: JMAP support?
On 8. Mar 2021, at 9.11, Mark Constable wrote: > > On Fri Jan 25 2019 Aki wrote: > > There is no JMAP support in any dovecot version yet. > > Two years on so what is the status of JMAP support in Dovecot now? - We have a new JSON library, making it easier to write efficient JMAP support. - We have some initial code for reusing imap process for the same user, making it more efficient to do quick connect + work + disconnect type requests. This would make implementing JMAP more efficient. Also would make many IMAP webmails more efficient. Would need to finish working on this some day. - We were planning to do a more generic "HTTP server architecture" that would allow more easily implementing JMAP and other HTTP servers, but that's not done. I'm actually not quite sure anymore what exactly it was supposed to do. - We have no plans to actually start working on JMAP itself, but nothing prevents outside contributions. It would likely be in a separate git repository anyway. ___ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-le...@dovecot.org
Re: JMAP support?
Hi, is there any progress on this? Since the IETF draft is long completed, will you integrate JMAP in a coming dovecot version or is this topic completely abandoned? Marcel ___ dovecot mailing list -- dovecot@dovecot.org To unsubscribe send an email to dovecot-le...@dovecot.org
Re: JMAP Support Status
On 2022-04-15 16:03, @lbutlr wrote: cyrus-imapd have it But only cyrus, I believe. If you ask most nerds what JMAP is, they'll talk about java, not IMAP. +1, we both wait for dovecot or change to cyrus :=) i feel cyrus is more stable then dovecot, atleast for the free version of dovecot, for dovecot-pro i dont know yet :/ my constructive cretik would be to see wiki have full dokumention of how to configure all detail in dovecot, eq nothing is left to be figured out of admins that install dovecot for the first time, again dovecot v1 is more stable then dovecot v2, i know others say you are kidding, nope
Re: JMAP Support Status
On 2022 Apr 14, at 11:31, Benny Pedersen wrote: > On 2022-04-14 19:11, Michael Slusarz wrote: >>> On 04/13/2022 2:24 AM David Klingenberg >>> wrote: >>> has there been any development on JMAP support in Dovecot? >> JMAP is not currently being developed. > cyrus-imapd have it But only cyrus, I believe. If you ask most nerds what JMAP is, they'll talk about java, not IMAP. -- In my world there are people in chains and you can ride them like ponies
Re: JMAP Support Status
> On 04/14/2022 11:31 AM Benny Pedersen wrote: > > > On 2022-04-14 19:11, Michael Slusarz wrote: > >> On 04/13/2022 2:24 AM David Klingenberg > >> wrote: > >> > >> has there been any development on JMAP support in Dovecot? > > > > JMAP is not currently being developed. > > oh :) > > cyrus-imapd have it The cyrus developers created JMAP, so that makes sense. michael
Re: JMAP Support Status
On 2022-04-14 19:11, Michael Slusarz wrote: On 04/13/2022 2:24 AM David Klingenberg wrote: has there been any development on JMAP support in Dovecot? JMAP is not currently being developed. oh :) cyrus-imapd have it
Re: JMAP Support Status
> On 04/13/2022 2:24 AM David Klingenberg wrote: > > > has there been any development on JMAP support in Dovecot? JMAP is not > currently being developed. michael
JMAP Support Status
Hello, what is the current status of JMAP support in Dovecot? Is it already supported or is there any ongoing work on it? I have found some older threads mentioning it as planned, but they are quite old and I haven't found anything new on that topic. Best Regards, David
Re: JMAP support?
On 8. Mar 2021, at 8.11, Mark Constable wrote: > Two years on so what is the status of JMAP support in Dovecot now? Lots of work, and nobody really seems to want it that much, so we're not actively working on it. There are also some generic optimization and code cleanup steps along the way that are slowly happening, and after those it should be easier to implement JMAP (or some other HTTP based protocol).
Re: JMAP support?
Em 09/03/2021 05:43, Jean-Daniel escreveu: Hi. The HTTP API is just for doveadm and is not related in anyway to JMAP AFAIK. Are there any web-admin for dovecot/doveadm? Thanks -- _Engº Julio Cesar Covolato 0v0 /(_)\ F: 55-11-99175-9260 ^ ^ PSI INTERNET --
Re: JMAP support?
The HTTP API is just for doveadm and is not related in anyway to JMAP AFAIK. > Le 8 mars 2021 à 23:52, Philip a écrit : > > Didn't JMAP get included with v2.3 with the HTTP API? > > https://www.dovecot.org/list/dovecot-news/2016-March/000313.html > > Or maybe that was just for admin things. > > Phil > > On 09/03/2021 11:26, @lbutlr wrote: >> On 08 Mar 2021, at 14:04, Leonardo Rodrigues >> wrote: >>> Em 08/03/2021 16:43, @lbutlr escreveu: On 08 Mar 2021, at 02:15, Mark Constable wrote: There doesn't seem to be much interest in JMAP ou there, which means it is going to be pretty hard to get something working well unless you write it yourself. >>> Or sponsor its development, if the OP is so interested on it! >> I checked and Roundcube-next appears to be a dead project, so I'd really not >> hold out much hope. >>
Re: JMAP support?
Didn't JMAP get included with v2.3 with the HTTP API? https://www.dovecot.org/list/dovecot-news/2016-March/000313.html Or maybe that was just for admin things. Phil On 09/03/2021 11:26, @lbutlr wrote: On 08 Mar 2021, at 14:04, Leonardo Rodrigues wrote: Em 08/03/2021 16:43, @lbutlr escreveu: On 08 Mar 2021, at 02:15, Mark Constable wrote: There doesn't seem to be much interest in JMAP ou there, which means it is going to be pretty hard to get something working well unless you write it yourself. Or sponsor its development, if the OP is so interested on it! I checked and Roundcube-next appears to be a dead project, so I'd really not hold out much hope.
Re: JMAP support?
On 08 Mar 2021, at 14:04, Leonardo Rodrigues wrote: > Em 08/03/2021 16:43, @lbutlr escreveu: >> On 08 Mar 2021, at 02:15, Mark Constable wrote: >> There doesn't seem to be much interest in JMAP ou there, which means it is >> going to be pretty hard to get something working well unless you write it >> yourself. > Or sponsor its development, if the OP is so interested on it! I checked and Roundcube-next appears to be a dead project, so I'd really not hold out much hope. -- NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR ABOUT MY SCIATICA Bart chalkboard Ep. AABF09
Re: JMAP support?
Em 08/03/2021 16:43, @lbutlr escreveu: On 08 Mar 2021, at 02:15, Mark Constable wrote: There doesn't seem to be much interest in JMAP ou there, which means it is going to be pretty hard to get something working well unless you write it yourself. Or sponsor its development, if the OP is so interested on it! -- Atenciosamente / Sincerily, Leonardo Rodrigues Solutti Tecnologia http://www.solutti.com.br Minha armadilha de SPAM, NÃO mandem email gertru...@solutti.com.br My SPAMTRAP, do not email it
Re: JMAP support?
On 08 Mar 2021, at 02:15, Mark Constable wrote: > On 8/3/21 18:08, @lbutlr wrote: >>> Two years on so what is the status of JMAP support in Dovecot now? >> I don't think anything has changed on this front. Last I saw, only Cyrus has >> partial support for JMAP mail, but not the other parts of JMAP. > > Such a pity. I just two weeks battling with Cyrus-imapd just to test > out the Cypht JMAP client and frankly Cyrus is an ill-documented PITA, > to put it bluntly. That was my experience with it many years ago. > so I guess, minus cyrus-imapd, it's down to these fledgling projects... > > https://github.com/search?q=jmap+server Not a lot there and about half of it hasn't nbeen touched in 5 years. There doesn't seem to be much interest in JMAP ou there, which means it is going to be pretty hard to get something working well unless you write it yourself. James (from apache) might be a solution? What does Roundcube recommend? As I understand it you don't need a "Mail server" for JMAP as it uses JSON over http. Also, I doubt that 12 months will bring any changes, the last post I saw from Aki (didn't look too hard) mentioned Dovecot 2.5. -- 'People need vampires,' she [Granny] said. 'They helps 'em remember what stakes and garlic are for.' --Carpe Jugulum
Re: JMAP support?
On 8/3/21 18:08, @lbutlr wrote: Two years on so what is the status of JMAP support in Dovecot now? I don't think anything has changed on this front. Last I saw, only Cyrus has partial support for JMAP mail, but not the other parts of JMAP. Such a pity. I just two weeks battling with Cyrus-imapd just to test out the Cypht JMAP client and frankly Cyrus is an ill-documented PITA, to put it bluntly. From charter-ietf-jmap-03 "Now that draft-ietf-jmap-mail is completed, the working group will produce specifications for related data types, beginning with calendars and contacts." So "JSON Mail Access Protocol" is done and jmap + websockets is on the way... https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8887.html so I guess, minus cyrus-imapd, it's down to these fledgling projects... https://github.com/search?q=jmap+server No doubt I will ask about Dovecots JMAP status in another 12 months.
Re: JMAP support?
On 08 Mar 2021, at 00:11, Mark Constable wrote: > On Fri Jan 25 2019 Aki wrote: > > There is no JMAP support in any dovecot version yet. > > Two years on so what is the status of JMAP support in Dovecot now? I don't think anything has changed on this front. Last I saw, only Cyrus has partial support for JMAP mail, but not the other parts of JMAP. -- The fact is that camels are far more intelligent than dolphins. Footnote: Never trust a species that grins all the time. It's up to something. --Pyramids
JMAP support?
On Fri Jan 25 2019 Aki wrote: > There is no JMAP support in any dovecot version yet. Two years on so what is the status of JMAP support in Dovecot now?
Re: JMAP support
Fyi, JMAP support is now officially on Thunderbirds roadmap for 2021... Ok, I'll say it... Pretty please?! On 7/9/2019, 1:36:58 AM, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote: > No ETA yet. > > Aki > > On 7.7.2019 1.12, Martynas Bendorius via dovecot wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Is there any ETA set for JMAP support? >> >> Thank you! >> >>>> On 11/27/2016 5:28 AM, Aki Tuomi wrote: >>>> Hi! >>>> We are working on including JMAP support to Dovecot. At this moment I >>>> cannot give any promise for exact version, but hopefully it will be part >>>> of v2.3 >>>> >>>> Aki Tuomi >>>> Dovecot Oy >> -- >> Best regards, >> Martynas Bendorius >> >> >
Re: JMAP support in Dovecot
Hi, Any news for jmap Support in Dovecot? Thanks, Mike
Re: JMAP support
No ETA yet. Aki On 7.7.2019 1.12, Martynas Bendorius via dovecot wrote: > Hello, > > Is there any ETA set for JMAP support? > > Thank you! > >>> On 11/27/2016 5:28 AM, Aki Tuomi wrote: >>> Hi! >>> We are working on including JMAP support to Dovecot. At this moment I >>> cannot give any promise for exact version, but hopefully it will be part of >>> v2.3 >>> >>> Aki Tuomi >>> Dovecot Oy > -- > Best regards, > Martynas Bendorius > >
JMAP support
Hello, Is there any ETA set for JMAP support? Thank you! >> On 11/27/2016 5:28 AM, Aki Tuomi wrote: >> Hi! >> We are working on including JMAP support to Dovecot. At this moment I cannot >> give any promise for exact version, but hopefully it will be part of v2.3 >> >> Aki Tuomi >> Dovecot Oy -- Best regards, Martynas Bendorius
Re: JMAP support in Dovecot
Thanks for chiming in Bron! I'm very interested in JMAP as you can see, but I'm also very curious - do you have any blog pages dedicated to the user experience vs standard IMAP? How it differs - and most importantly if it is truly better, and if so, how and why? I'd also love to read about actual user experiences - how about a collection of comments from your users? Thanks again, Charles p.s. Even though I've always hosted my own, I'm very tempted to sign up for a paid account to see for myself. On Tue May 28 2019 03:49:25 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time), Bron Gondwana via dovecot wrote: > On Wed, May 22, 2019, at 23:43, Tanstaafl via dovecot wrote: >> On Wed May 22 2019 05:44:59 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time), Aki Tuomi >> via dovecot wrote: >> > Unfortunately we have not been able to work on this much, but also the >> > JMAP spec was until very recently still being worked. We have open >> > dialogue with the Thunderbird people, they haven't so far indicated any >> > pressing need for JMAP in Dovecot. >> > >> > This said, JMAP is still very much in our roadmap. Perhaps just not as >> > close as I initially thought. > > Obviously I'd love to help out in any way possible here! We're very > keen to see JMAP support in Dovecot to encourage others to move > towards it as well. > >> Thanks Aki - no pressing need because of the old chicken/egg problem I >> guess... >> >> That said, a few tidbits... >> >> The Thunderbird Devs are using Topicbox for discussing Thunderbird UI >> development, and Topicbox is built directly on top of JMAP for the email >> integration (I'm not sure they even knew this until I told them >> yesterday): >> >> From: https://fastmail.blog/2018/12/27/jmap-is-on-the-home-straight/ >> >> "But enough about the software, how about the experience! When we >> created our brand new Topicbox product, we built directly on top of JMAP >> for the email. We also used JMAP-inspired APIs for the rest of the >> product experience, so Topicbox’s early users have been on JMAP for over >> a year now." >> >> Lastly, Fastmail is now rolling it out - 30% of their userbase is on >> JMAP, and all new users are automatically on it. Cyrus also provides >> experimental JMAP support in their development snapshots. > > Actually, 99% of our user base has been on JMAP for about 4 months > now! The one remaining percent was users with the old version of our > mobile apps, and they're being cut off next month. > > As for JMAP mail and JMAP core - they're currently with the RFC editor > for the final round of edits - they should have assigned RFC numbers > in the next few weeks I would imagine. There will be some minor > editorial polish, but the way it works is entirely stable now, there > won't be more changes. > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-core/ > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-mail/ > > We're planning to have full support for everything in those specs into > Cyrus IMAP version 3.2 as well. Right now there's a couple of gaps > that we either don't use at FastMail or are papering around with our > perl middleware. You can see the remaining tasks here as we progress: > > https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/labels/3.2 > > Cheers, > > Bron. > > > > -- > Bron Gondwana > br...@fastmail.fm > >
Re: JMAP support in Dovecot
On Wed, May 22, 2019, at 23:43, Tanstaafl via dovecot wrote: > On Wed May 22 2019 05:44:59 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time), Aki Tuomi > via dovecot wrote: > > Unfortunately we have not been able to work on this much, but also the > > JMAP spec was until very recently still being worked. We have open > > dialogue with the Thunderbird people, they haven't so far indicated any > > pressing need for JMAP in Dovecot. > > > > This said, JMAP is still very much in our roadmap. Perhaps just not as > > close as I initially thought. Obviously I'd love to help out in any way possible here! We're very keen to see JMAP support in Dovecot to encourage others to move towards it as well. > Thanks Aki - no pressing need because of the old chicken/egg problem I > guess... > > That said, a few tidbits... > > The Thunderbird Devs are using Topicbox for discussing Thunderbird UI > development, and Topicbox is built directly on top of JMAP for the email > integration (I'm not sure they even knew this until I told them yesterday): > > From: https://fastmail.blog/2018/12/27/jmap-is-on-the-home-straight/ > > "But enough about the software, how about the experience! When we > created our brand new Topicbox product, we built directly on top of JMAP > for the email. We also used JMAP-inspired APIs for the rest of the > product experience, so Topicbox’s early users have been on JMAP for over > a year now." > > Lastly, Fastmail is now rolling it out - 30% of their userbase is on > JMAP, and all new users are automatically on it. Cyrus also provides > experimental JMAP support in their development snapshots. Actually, 99% of our user base has been on JMAP for about 4 months now! The one remaining percent was users with the old version of our mobile apps, and they're being cut off next month. As for JMAP mail and JMAP core - they're currently with the RFC editor for the final round of edits - they should have assigned RFC numbers in the next few weeks I would imagine. There will be some minor editorial polish, but the way it works is entirely stable now, there won't be more changes. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-core/ https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-jmap-mail/ We're planning to have full support for everything in those specs into Cyrus IMAP version 3.2 as well. Right now there's a couple of gaps that we either don't use at FastMail or are papering around with our perl middleware. You can see the remaining tasks here as we progress: https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/labels/3.2 Cheers, Bron. -- Bron Gondwana br...@fastmail.fm
Re: JMAP support in Dovecot
On 22 May 2019, at 07:42, Tanstaafl via dovecot wrote: > Thanks Aki - no pressing need because of the old chicken/egg problem I > guess... I have to say, looking at JAMP it looks very interesting. I'd love to throw a JAMP webmail implementation up and play with it. -- "I can't marry her; she's my friend!"
Re: JMAP support in Dovecot
On Wed May 22 2019 05:44:59 GMT-0400 (Eastern Standard Time), Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote: > Unfortunately we have not been able to work on this much, but also the > JMAP spec was until very recently still being worked. We have open > dialogue with the Thunderbird people, they haven't so far indicated any > pressing need for JMAP in Dovecot. > > This said, JMAP is still very much in our roadmap. Perhaps just not as > close as I initially thought. Thanks Aki - no pressing need because of the old chicken/egg problem I guess... That said, a few tidbits... The Thunderbird Devs are using Topicbox for discussing Thunderbird UI development, and Topicbox is built directly on top of JMAP for the email integration (I'm not sure they even knew this until I told them yesterday): From: https://fastmail.blog/2018/12/27/jmap-is-on-the-home-straight/ "But enough about the software, how about the experience! When we created our brand new Topicbox product, we built directly on top of JMAP for the email. We also used JMAP-inspired APIs for the rest of the product experience, so Topicbox’s early users have been on JMAP for over a year now." Lastly, Fastmail is now rolling it out - 30% of their userbase is on JMAP, and all new users are automatically on it. Cyrus also provides experimental JMAP support in their development snapshots. So, maybe - hopefully - this might be some reasons to push that development up some. if not, its good to know that it is at least still on the roadmap.
Re: JMAP support in Dovecot
Unfortunately we have not been able to work on this much, but also the JMAP spec was until very recently still being worked. We have open dialogue with the Thunderbird people, they haven't so far indicated any pressing need for JMAP in Dovecot. This said, JMAP is still very much in our roadmap. Perhaps just not as close as I initially thought. Aki On 21.5.2019 16.29, Tanstaafl via dovecot wrote: > Hello Aki, > > Well, it has been over 3 years since I last asked... > > You had said initial JMAP support would hopefully make it into 2.3. > Since it didn't, I'm hoiping it isn't too far away. > > There is some movement with the new Thunderbird team on this, but they > can't really start serious work on adding JMAP support until there is a > server implementation to test against. > > Is JMAP support still hopefully on the near term roadmap? > > Thanks > > Charles > > On Sun Nov 27 2016 05:28:36 GMT-0500 (Eastern Daylight Time), Aki Tuomi > wrote: >> Hi! >> >> We are working on including JMAP support to Dovecot. At this moment I cannot >> give any promise for exact >> version, but hopefully it will be part of v2.3 >> >> Aki Tuomi >> >> Dovecot Oy >> >>> On November 26, 2016 at 11:17 PM Andrew Jones wrote: >>> >>> Hi Marcus >>> >>> Thanks for your helpful reply. >>> >>> Do you know what is going on with JMAP development into Dovecot 2.5? >>> >>> It's difficult to get any sort of information from the roadmap and there >>> are no Dovecot forums. >>> >>> One of the main reasons I'm interested in JMAP is because of Roundcube Next >>> and also the other clients it will >> power. Sadly, there has been little >>> going on and having emailed Thomas, he is no longer involved in Roundcube >>> >> Next - which is a shame. The Kolab guys are really taking liberties >>> here, and trying their product, the thing >> is littered with bugs >>> everywhere. >>> >>> Are you able to comment on what is going on with JMAP development into >>> Dovecot? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Andrew >>>> On 26 Nov 2016, at 19:16, Marcus Rueckert wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2016-11-26 11:07:00 -0800, WJCarpenter wrote: >>>>> I don't know the answer to that question, but I am curious about >>>>> something. >>>>> What client are you thinking about using with JMAP? I haven't found much. >>>>> (And much of the demo stuff at jmap.io seems to be busted in various >>>>> ways.) >>>> roundcube-next builds on top of it. >>>> >>>>darix
Re: JMAP support in Dovecot
Hello Aki, Well, it has been over 3 years since I last asked... You had said initial JMAP support would hopefully make it into 2.3. Since it didn't, I'm hoiping it isn't too far away. There is some movement with the new Thunderbird team on this, but they can't really start serious work on adding JMAP support until there is a server implementation to test against. Is JMAP support still hopefully on the near term roadmap? Thanks Charles On Sun Nov 27 2016 05:28:36 GMT-0500 (Eastern Daylight Time), Aki Tuomi wrote: > Hi! > > We are working on including JMAP support to Dovecot. At this moment I cannot > give any promise for exact > version, but hopefully it will be part of v2.3 > > Aki Tuomi > > Dovecot Oy > >> On November 26, 2016 at 11:17 PM Andrew Jones wrote: >> >> Hi Marcus >> >> Thanks for your helpful reply. >> >> Do you know what is going on with JMAP development into Dovecot 2.5? >> >> It's difficult to get any sort of information from the roadmap and there are >> no Dovecot forums. >> >> One of the main reasons I'm interested in JMAP is because of Roundcube Next >> and also the other clients it will >> power. Sadly, there has been little >> going on and having emailed Thomas, he is no longer involved in Roundcube >> >> Next - which is a shame. The Kolab guys are really taking liberties here, >> and trying their product, the thing >> is littered with bugs everywhere. >> >> Are you able to comment on what is going on with JMAP development into >> Dovecot? >> >> Thanks >> >> Andrew >>> On 26 Nov 2016, at 19:16, Marcus Rueckert wrote: >>> >>>> On 2016-11-26 11:07:00 -0800, WJCarpenter wrote: >>>> I don't know the answer to that question, but I am curious about something. >>>> What client are you thinking about using with JMAP? I haven't found much. >>>> (And much of the demo stuff at jmap.io seems to be busted in various ways.) >>> >>> roundcube-next builds on top of it. >>> >>>darix
Re: JMAP support in Dovecot
answer is not yet. we are going to implement it when we get free resources to do it. ---Aki TuomiDovecot oy Original message From: Steinar Bang Date: 21/09/2017 17:28 (GMT+02:00) To: dovecot@dovecot.org Subject: Re: JMAP support in Dovecot >>>>> Aki Tuomi : > We are working on including JMAP support to Dovecot. At this moment I > cannot give any promise for exact version, but hopefully it will be > part of v2.3 Any updates on jmap support in dovecot? I tried searching the git repo for "jmap" yesterday, so I'm guessing the answer is "no" or "not yet"...?
Re: JMAP support in Dovecot
>>>>> Aki Tuomi : > We are working on including JMAP support to Dovecot. At this moment I > cannot give any promise for exact version, but hopefully it will be > part of v2.3 Any updates on jmap support in dovecot? I tried searching the git repo for "jmap" yesterday, so I'm guessing the answer is "no" or "not yet"...?
Re: JMAP support in Dovecot
Hi Charles, We are actually pretty close to a complete implementation in Cyrus now, and there's the proxy of course. We'll be doing a release candidate of Cyrus 3.0 with JMAP support on January 13th. There's also the hosted copy of the JMAP proxy, which I'm afraid I haven't been giving much love recently. It's very close to feature complete though. What number is the Thunderbird bug? I appear to not be CCd, or missing the emails from it. I should probably sign up! Feel free to ask me anything directly as well. Bron. On Wed, 14 Dec 2016, at 02:33, Tanstaafl wrote: > Hi Aki, > > Someone just asked in the bug for Thunderbird for this, so... > > Is there a git branch that they could use to start playing with what is > there? If not, any idea when that might happen? > > It sounds like someone following the Thunderbird bug is interested in > working on this, but they obviously need something to test against. > > Thanks, > > Charles > > > On 11/27/2016 5:28 AM, Aki Tuomi wrote: > > Hi! > > > > We are working on including JMAP support to Dovecot. At this moment I > > cannot give any promise for exact version, but hopefully it will be part of > > v2.3 > > > > Aki Tuomi > > > > Dovecot Oy > > > >> On November 26, 2016 at 11:17 PM Andrew Jones wrote: > >> > >> > >> Hi Marcus > >> > >> Thanks for your helpful reply. > >> > >> Do you know what is going on with JMAP development into Dovecot 2.5? > >> > >> It's difficult to get any sort of information from the roadmap and there > >> are no Dovecot forums. > >> > >> One of the main reasons I'm interested in JMAP is because of Roundcube > >> Next and also the other clients it will power. Sadly, there has been > >> little going on and having emailed Thomas, he is no longer involved in > >> Roundcube Next - which is a shame. The Kolab guys are really taking > >> liberties here, and trying their product, the thing is littered with bugs > >> everywhere. > >> > >> Are you able to comment on what is going on with JMAP development into > >> Dovecot? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Andrew > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On 26 Nov 2016, at 19:16, Marcus Rueckert wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 2016-11-26 11:07:00 -0800, WJCarpenter wrote: > >>>> I don't know the answer to that question, but I am curious about > >>>> something. > >>>> What client are you thinking about using with JMAP? I haven't found much. > >>>> (And much of the demo stuff at jmap.io seems to be busted in various > >>>> ways.) > >>> > >>> roundcube-next builds on top of it. > >>> > >>>darix > >>> > >>> -- > >>> openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux > >>> openSUSE is good for you > >>> www.opensuse.org -- Bron Gondwana br...@fastmail.fm
Re: JMAP support in Dovecot
Dear Charles In order to gain more info on JMAP implementations and progress being made on server-side implementations, I'd say the JMAP Google groups would contain the most information with all discussions. Currently the most current implementation is the JMAP proxy, which connects to an IMAP/CalDAV/CardDAV server, and Fastmail are hard at work at trying to get JMAP support into Cyrus. Clientside implementations include a mobile app being developed by Atmail, as well as Roundcube Next - it may be worth reaching out to them to see what they are using for development. Good luck Sent from my iPhone > On 13 Dec 2016, at 15:34, Tanstaafl wrote: > > Hi Aki, > > Someone just asked in the bug for Thunderbird for this, so... > > Is there a git branch that they could use to start playing with what is > there? If not, any idea when that might happen? > > It sounds like someone following the Thunderbird bug is interested in > working on this, but they obviously need something to test against. > > Thanks, > > Charles > > >> On 11/27/2016 5:28 AM, Aki Tuomi wrote: >> Hi! >> >> We are working on including JMAP support to Dovecot. At this moment I cannot >> give any promise for exact version, but hopefully it will be part of v2.3 >> >> Aki Tuomi >> >> Dovecot Oy >> >>> On November 26, 2016 at 11:17 PM Andrew Jones wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi Marcus >>> >>> Thanks for your helpful reply. >>> >>> Do you know what is going on with JMAP development into Dovecot 2.5? >>> >>> It's difficult to get any sort of information from the roadmap and there >>> are no Dovecot forums. >>> >>> One of the main reasons I'm interested in JMAP is because of Roundcube Next >>> and also the other clients it will power. Sadly, there has been little >>> going on and having emailed Thomas, he is no longer involved in Roundcube >>> Next - which is a shame. The Kolab guys are really taking liberties here, >>> and trying their product, the thing is littered with bugs everywhere. >>> >>> Are you able to comment on what is going on with JMAP development into >>> Dovecot? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>>> On 26 Nov 2016, at 19:16, Marcus Rueckert wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 2016-11-26 11:07:00 -0800, WJCarpenter wrote: >>>>> I don't know the answer to that question, but I am curious about >>>>> something. >>>>> What client are you thinking about using with JMAP? I haven't found much. >>>>> (And much of the demo stuff at jmap.io seems to be busted in various >>>>> ways.) >>>> >>>> roundcube-next builds on top of it. >>>> >>>> darix >>>> >>>> -- >>>> openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux >>>> openSUSE is good for you >>>> www.opensuse.org
Re: JMAP support in Dovecot
Unfortunately we don't have any beta version yet for testing. Hopefully sometime next year. Aki On 13.12.2016 17:33, Tanstaafl wrote: > Hi Aki, > > Someone just asked in the bug for Thunderbird for this, so... > > Is there a git branch that they could use to start playing with what is > there? If not, any idea when that might happen? > > It sounds like someone following the Thunderbird bug is interested in > working on this, but they obviously need something to test against. > > Thanks, > > Charles > > > On 11/27/2016 5:28 AM, Aki Tuomi wrote: >> Hi! >> >> We are working on including JMAP support to Dovecot. At this moment I cannot >> give any promise for exact version, but hopefully it will be part of v2.3 >> >> Aki Tuomi >> >> Dovecot Oy >> >>> On November 26, 2016 at 11:17 PM Andrew Jones wrote: >>> >>> >>> Hi Marcus >>> >>> Thanks for your helpful reply. >>> >>> Do you know what is going on with JMAP development into Dovecot 2.5? >>> >>> It's difficult to get any sort of information from the roadmap and there >>> are no Dovecot forums. >>> >>> One of the main reasons I'm interested in JMAP is because of Roundcube Next >>> and also the other clients it will power. Sadly, there has been little >>> going on and having emailed Thomas, he is no longer involved in Roundcube >>> Next - which is a shame. The Kolab guys are really taking liberties here, >>> and trying their product, the thing is littered with bugs everywhere. >>> >>> Are you able to comment on what is going on with JMAP development into >>> Dovecot? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Andrew >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On 26 Nov 2016, at 19:16, Marcus Rueckert wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2016-11-26 11:07:00 -0800, WJCarpenter wrote: >>>>> I don't know the answer to that question, but I am curious about >>>>> something. >>>>> What client are you thinking about using with JMAP? I haven't found much. >>>>> (And much of the demo stuff at jmap.io seems to be busted in various >>>>> ways.) >>>> roundcube-next builds on top of it. >>>> >>>>darix >>>> >>>> -- >>>> openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux >>>> openSUSE is good for you >>>> www.opensuse.org
Re: JMAP support in Dovecot
Hi Aki, Someone just asked in the bug for Thunderbird for this, so... Is there a git branch that they could use to start playing with what is there? If not, any idea when that might happen? It sounds like someone following the Thunderbird bug is interested in working on this, but they obviously need something to test against. Thanks, Charles On 11/27/2016 5:28 AM, Aki Tuomi wrote: > Hi! > > We are working on including JMAP support to Dovecot. At this moment I cannot > give any promise for exact version, but hopefully it will be part of v2.3 > > Aki Tuomi > > Dovecot Oy > >> On November 26, 2016 at 11:17 PM Andrew Jones wrote: >> >> >> Hi Marcus >> >> Thanks for your helpful reply. >> >> Do you know what is going on with JMAP development into Dovecot 2.5? >> >> It's difficult to get any sort of information from the roadmap and there are >> no Dovecot forums. >> >> One of the main reasons I'm interested in JMAP is because of Roundcube Next >> and also the other clients it will power. Sadly, there has been little going >> on and having emailed Thomas, he is no longer involved in Roundcube Next - >> which is a shame. The Kolab guys are really taking liberties here, and >> trying their product, the thing is littered with bugs everywhere. >> >> Are you able to comment on what is going on with JMAP development into >> Dovecot? >> >> Thanks >> >> Andrew >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On 26 Nov 2016, at 19:16, Marcus Rueckert wrote: >>> >>>> On 2016-11-26 11:07:00 -0800, WJCarpenter wrote: >>>> I don't know the answer to that question, but I am curious about something. >>>> What client are you thinking about using with JMAP? I haven't found much. >>>> (And much of the demo stuff at jmap.io seems to be busted in various ways.) >>> >>> roundcube-next builds on top of it. >>> >>>darix >>> >>> -- >>> openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux >>> openSUSE is good for you >>> www.opensuse.org
Re: JMAP support in Dovecot
Bron Gondwana wrote on 11/27/2016 02:25 PM: The demo proxy was a pretty quick hack and isn't very efficient, but it should be working. It does a fairly slow background import for existing accounts, so I'd recommend using small tests accounts. What particular bit is broken for you? (apart from the known not-working authentication flow) Bron. I don't know what you mean by the "known not working authentication flow", so possibly that is what I am hitting. On the "Set Hosts" screen with either Chrome or FireFox, I see two boxes each for IMAP and SMTP and a drop-down to toggle plaintext, SSL, or STARTLS. The fields are populated initially with "IMAP: 993/1/SSL" and "SMTP: 587/1/STARTLS". I don't know what that "1" is supposed to mean, so I replaced it with the relevant server names. I got an error "UNABLE TO CONNECT for ". To try again, I swapped those two fields around. Same result. (I was watching my server logs at the same time and saw no connection attempts.) I could not figure out how to go further.
Re: JMAP support in Dovecot
On Sun, 27 Nov 2016, at 06:07, WJCarpenter wrote: > I don't know the answer to that question, but I am curious about > something. What client are you thinking about using with JMAP? I haven't > found much. (And much of the demo stuff at jmap.io seems to be busted in > various ways.) The demo proxy was a pretty quick hack and isn't very efficient, but it should be working. It does a fairly slow background import for existing accounts, so I'd recommend using small tests accounts. What particular bit is broken for you? (apart from the known not-working authentication flow) Bron. -- Bron Gondwana br...@fastmail.fm
Re: JMAP support in Dovecot
Hi! We are working on including JMAP support to Dovecot. At this moment I cannot give any promise for exact version, but hopefully it will be part of v2.3 Aki Tuomi Dovecot Oy > On November 26, 2016 at 11:17 PM Andrew Jones wrote: > > > Hi Marcus > > Thanks for your helpful reply. > > Do you know what is going on with JMAP development into Dovecot 2.5? > > It's difficult to get any sort of information from the roadmap and there are > no Dovecot forums. > > One of the main reasons I'm interested in JMAP is because of Roundcube Next > and also the other clients it will power. Sadly, there has been little going > on and having emailed Thomas, he is no longer involved in Roundcube Next - > which is a shame. The Kolab guys are really taking liberties here, and trying > their product, the thing is littered with bugs everywhere. > > Are you able to comment on what is going on with JMAP development into > Dovecot? > > Thanks > > Andrew > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On 26 Nov 2016, at 19:16, Marcus Rueckert wrote: > > > >> On 2016-11-26 11:07:00 -0800, WJCarpenter wrote: > >> I don't know the answer to that question, but I am curious about something. > >> What client are you thinking about using with JMAP? I haven't found much. > >> (And much of the demo stuff at jmap.io seems to be busted in various ways.) > > > > roundcube-next builds on top of it. > > > >darix > > > > -- > > openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux > > openSUSE is good for you > > www.opensuse.org
Re: JMAP support in Dovecot
I am happy with IMAPS. Most of JMAP can be implemented as IMAPS incremental revisions.
Re: JMAP support in Dovecot
Hi Marcus Thanks for your helpful reply. Do you know what is going on with JMAP development into Dovecot 2.5? It's difficult to get any sort of information from the roadmap and there are no Dovecot forums. One of the main reasons I'm interested in JMAP is because of Roundcube Next and also the other clients it will power. Sadly, there has been little going on and having emailed Thomas, he is no longer involved in Roundcube Next - which is a shame. The Kolab guys are really taking liberties here, and trying their product, the thing is littered with bugs everywhere. Are you able to comment on what is going on with JMAP development into Dovecot? Thanks Andrew Sent from my iPhone > On 26 Nov 2016, at 19:16, Marcus Rueckert wrote: > >> On 2016-11-26 11:07:00 -0800, WJCarpenter wrote: >> I don't know the answer to that question, but I am curious about something. >> What client are you thinking about using with JMAP? I haven't found much. >> (And much of the demo stuff at jmap.io seems to be busted in various ways.) > > roundcube-next builds on top of it. > >darix > > -- > openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux > openSUSE is good for you > www.opensuse.org
Re: JMAP support in Dovecot
On 2016-11-26 11:07:00 -0800, WJCarpenter wrote: > I don't know the answer to that question, but I am curious about something. > What client are you thinking about using with JMAP? I haven't found much. > (And much of the demo stuff at jmap.io seems to be busted in various ways.) roundcube-next builds on top of it. darix -- openSUSE - SUSE Linux is my linux openSUSE is good for you www.opensuse.org
Re: JMAP support in Dovecot
I don't know the answer to that question, but I am curious about something. What client are you thinking about using with JMAP? I haven't found much. (And much of the demo stuff at jmap.io seems to be busted in various ways.) Andrew Jones wrote on 11/26/2016 10:43 AM: Hi there, I understand there were discussions to try and develop JMAP support for Dovecot. Is this still in the pipeline for Dovecot 2.5? Regards Andrew Sent from my iPhone
JMAP support in Dovecot
Hi there, I understand there were discussions to try and develop JMAP support for Dovecot. Is this still in the pipeline for Dovecot 2.5? Regards Andrew Sent from my iPhone
JMAP support
Just found http://jmap.io/ which is a JSON based RPC protocol for synchronizing messages/contacts/calendars. Any plans to support this protocol in Dovecot?
