Re: [Dovecot] Can't remove folder (no thunderbird issue)

2009-02-12 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 10:34 +0100, Jan Niggemann wrote:
 I used Thunderbird to create a folder and called it test/ (yes, with a 
 slash).
 
 Now, in both, Thunderbird and Mulberry, I'm unable to delete that folder 
 (that contains neither messages nor subfolders). Mulberry doesn't give an 
 error message, and in Thunderbird I can't find an option to remove this 
 folder (no matter if subscribed or not).

Try talking IMAP directly. Then you'll know exactly what's happening.

Either start with: telnet imap.server.org 143
Or: openssl s_client -connect imap.server.org:993

Then start giving commands:

a login username password
b delete test
c unsubscribe test
d list  *
e lsub  *

(include the a..e tags at the beginning)

If it's still not gone with those commands, show what replies b..e give?



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Re: [Dovecot] Can't remove folder (no thunderbird issue)

2009-02-12 Thread Scott Silva
on 2-12-2009 1:34 AM Jan Niggemann spake the following:
 Hi,
 
 first of all: yes, I already dug the internet but didn't find a solution - 
 that's why I'm asking you.
 My provider uses dovecot, although I can't tell you more about the version - 
 sorry. Mail is stored in mbox format.
 
 My trouble:
 I was unable to create subfolders and googled a bit. A proposed solution was 
 to append a slash at the end of the folder name.
 I used Thunderbird to create a folder and called it test/ (yes, with a 
 slash).
 
 Now, in both, Thunderbird and Mulberry, I'm unable to delete that folder 
 (that contains neither messages nor subfolders). Mulberry doesn't give an 
 error message, and in Thunderbird I can't find an option to remove this 
 folder (no matter if subscribed or not).
 
 My provider uses roundcube as a webmail interface. Trying to delete the 
 folder there seems to work OK, but after refreshing the folder-view it 
 re-appears.
 
 I have no (ssh|telnet|...) access to the server, so I can't remove the folder 
 using the shell..
 Do I have other options than calling support?
 
 Thank you already
 jan
 
The problem is with mbox in general. Mbox can only contain messages, and since
your deleted items (trash) is also mbox, you can't delete a folder into it. In
thunderbird you have to go to the properties for that server connection, go to
server settings, click advanced, and clear the checkbox on Server supports
folders that contain sub-folders and messages.

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You hope everybody uses it, and
you notice quickly if they don't



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Re: [Dovecot] Can't remove folder (no thunderbird issue)

2009-02-12 Thread Brian Hayden

On Feb 12 2009, Scott Silva wrote:


The problem is with mbox in general. Mbox can only contain messages, and 
since
your deleted items (trash) is also mbox, you can't delete a folder into 
it. In
thunderbird you have to go to the properties for that server connection, 
go to

server settings, click advanced, and clear the checkbox on Server supports
folders that contain sub-folders and messages.


It's a consequence of mbox, but the problem is with Thunderbird's 
persistent interface mis-features in the name of configurabiilty.


--
Brian Hayden
Minnesota Supercomputing Institute
University of Minnesota



Re: [Dovecot] Can't remove folder (no thunderbird issue)

2009-02-12 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 11:37 -0800, Scott Silva wrote:
  The problem is with mbox in general. Mbox can only contain messages,
  and since
  your deleted items (trash) is also mbox, you can't delete a folder
  into it. In
  thunderbird you have to go to the properties for that server
  connection, go to
  server settings, click advanced, and clear the checkbox on Server
  supports
  folders that contain sub-folders and messages.
  
  It's a consequence of mbox, but the problem is with Thunderbird's
  persistent interface mis-features in the name of configurabiilty.
  
 I'm not sure if it is proper, but you would think that the IMAP server should
 be able to give something in the capabilities dialog that lets a client know
 this. 

Client is able to figure out that.

 Or maybe it does, and Thunderbird doesn't pay attention.

Yeah. It's been in bugzilla for almost 4 years now:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=284933



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