Re: [Dovecot] Updated v1.1 and summer plans

2007-12-02 Thread Charles Marcus

On 12/2/2007, Timo Sirainen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

On Sat, 2007-12-01 at 18:56 -0500, Charles Marcus wrote:
I don't see any mention of support for SiS 
(single-instance-storage) as discussed previously on the list, even

for upcoming 1.2/2.0

Did this fall through a crack? Or did you decide it was going to be
too difficult for the time being?



dbox-file.h contains:

/* Pointer to external message data. Format is:
   1*(start offset byte count ref) */
DBOX_METADATA_EXT_REF= 'P',

That's about all there exists of that feature :) I haven't given up 
on implementing that, but for now there have been more important

things.


Fair enough... but since this one is near and dear to my heart ;)

Do you have any idea as to a time frame for when you might be able to 
get to it? Are you thinking post v2.0? Even 2.1 or 3.0?


I know its a hard question to answer, so if you just have no idea, thats 
ok too...


Thanks again -

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Best regards,

Charles


Re: [Dovecot] Updated v1.1 and summer plans

2007-12-02 Thread Charles Marcus

On 12/2/2007, Adam McDougall ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
Another option to consider is server side deduplication such as the 
ASIS block-level deduplication offered by NetApp (requires nearstore 
license). Our site will be migrating to a new netapp cluster that

supports dedupe and I will probably use it for mail. Although I doubt
it does anything for tape backups, I assume those will be full size.
Dovecot is cheaper too :)


Well, yeah, that'd be nice, but NetApps are expensive, and my boss 
wouldn't even consider it... ;) this is a pretty small shop.


--

Best regards,

Charles


Re: [Dovecot] Updated v1.1 and summer plans

2007-12-02 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Sun, 2007-12-02 at 10:02 -0500, Charles Marcus wrote:
 On 12/2/2007, Timo Sirainen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
  On Sat, 2007-12-01 at 18:56 -0500, Charles Marcus wrote:
  I don't see any mention of support for SiS 
  (single-instance-storage) as discussed previously on the list, even
  for upcoming 1.2/2.0
  
  Did this fall through a crack? Or did you decide it was going to be
  too difficult for the time being?
 
  dbox-file.h contains:
  
  /* Pointer to external message data. Format is:
 1*(start offset byte count ref) */
  DBOX_METADATA_EXT_REF= 'P',
  
  That's about all there exists of that feature :) I haven't given up 
  on implementing that, but for now there have been more important
  things.
 
 Fair enough... but since this one is near and dear to my heart ;)
 
 Do you have any idea as to a time frame for when you might be able to 
 get to it? Are you thinking post v2.0? Even 2.1 or 3.0?

Right now I just want to get v1.1 finished. The main problem with it is
that apparently in some installations it's slower than v1.0 and I
haven't yet figured out why. And I want Squat rewrite to be included in
it too (almost finished! just committed it to hg).

After v1.1 I'm not sure. I'm more interested in implementing other
features first (like v2.0's config rewrite, replication, etc.), but once
I'm beginning to run out of money I'll start doing pretty much anything
people pay me to do ;)


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Re: [Dovecot] Updated v1.1 and summer plans

2007-12-01 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Sat, 2007-12-01 at 18:56 -0500, Charles Marcus wrote:
 I don't see any mention of support for SiS (single-instance-storage) as
 discussed previously on the list, even for upcoming 1.2/2.0
 
 Did this fall through a crack? Or did you decide it was going to be too
 difficult for the time being?

dbox-file.h contains:

/* Pointer to external message data. Format is:
   1*(start offset byte count ref) */
DBOX_METADATA_EXT_REF   = 'P',

That's about all there exists of that feature :) I haven't given up on
implementing that, but for now there have been more important things.



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Re: [Dovecot] Updated v1.1 and summer plans

2007-05-24 Thread Farkas Levente
Timo Sirainen wrote:
 On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 00:52 +0800, M1 wrote:
 Dear Timo,

 How about managedsieve?
 
 I think it'll have to wait for v2.0. Especially because I want it to be
 distributed in dovecot-sieve package, not in the main dovecot package.
 This just isn't possible without the larger changes that v2.0 brings.
 

but it'd be a real need for everyone who use lda since we can't use
procmail any longer and there is no other option:-(

-- 
  Levente   Si vis pacem para bellum!


Re: [Dovecot] Updated v1.1 and summer plans

2007-05-24 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Wed, 2007-05-23 at 13:43 +0200, Farkas Levente wrote:
 Timo Sirainen wrote:
  On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 00:52 +0800, M1 wrote:
  Dear Timo,
 
  How about managedsieve?
  
  I think it'll have to wait for v2.0. Especially because I want it to be
  distributed in dovecot-sieve package, not in the main dovecot package.
  This just isn't possible without the larger changes that v2.0 brings.
  
 
 but it'd be a real need for everyone who use lda since we can't use
 procmail any longer and there is no other option:-(

Oh, procmail had manageprocmail too?

There's no reason why procmail can't be used, and there's no reason why
one of the two managesieve implementations can't be used.



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Re: [Dovecot] Updated v1.1 and summer plans

2007-05-23 Thread Farkas Levente
Timo Sirainen wrote:
 Webmail.us will be sponsoring my Dovecot development for this summer.
 Other companies are also welcome to participate in the costs.
 Participation gets you:
 
   - listed in Credits in www.dovecot.org
   - listed in AUTHORS file
   - you can tell me how you want to use the feature and I'll make sure
 that it supports it (within reasonable limits)
 
 For already implemented v1.1 features, see
 http://www.dovecot.org/list/dovecot/2007-April/021974.html
 
 Some of those features require some more testing (new SORT and THREAD
 code especially) and a bit of fixes to mailbox list indexes. Otherwise I
 think it's working pretty well already, I've been using it for a long
 time for my own mails.
 
 Upcoming v1.1 features, more or less implemented in this order:

what's the plan for the 1.0 series?
it'll be 1.0.x release soon and ofter or ...?
yours.

-- 
  Levente   Si vis pacem para bellum!


Re: [Dovecot] Updated v1.1 and summer plans

2007-05-23 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 16:48 +0200, Farkas Levente wrote:
 what's the plan for the 1.0 series?
 it'll be 1.0.x release soon and ofter or ...?

v1.0.1 will be released soon. I'm mostly just waiting to see if one
user's problems go away with
http://hg.dovecot.org/dovecot-1.0/rev/4e4572280ef1

If I don't hear back in a few days I guess I'll do the release.

Well, now that you mentioned it I built also 1.0.1rc tarball for people
to test:
http://dovecot.org/tmp/dovecot-1.0.1rc.tar.gz

It has only small changes so I don't think it can break anything.

Other 1.0.x releases will come then if bugs are found. Probably even
after v1.1.0.



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Re: [Dovecot] Updated v1.1 and summer plans

2007-05-23 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 00:52 +0800, M1 wrote:
 Dear Timo,
 
 How about managedsieve?

I think it'll have to wait for v2.0. Especially because I want it to be
distributed in dovecot-sieve package, not in the main dovecot package.
This just isn't possible without the larger changes that v2.0 brings.



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Re: [Dovecot] Updated v1.1 and summer plans

2007-05-23 Thread Brian G. Peterson

Timo Sirainen wrote:

On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 00:52 +0800, M1 wrote:

Dear Timo,

How about managedsieve?


I think it'll have to wait for v2.0. Especially because I want it to be
distributed in dovecot-sieve package, not in the main dovecot package.
This just isn't possible without the larger changes that v2.0 brings.


Please do put a manageSIEVE interface formally on the roadmap. (I'd vote 
for v1.1, but I understand the technical issues that may push it to 
2.0).  SIEVE really isn't useful without a manageSIEVE interface or a 
shell.


It would be very nice to have it in the official dovecot packages, 
rather than as an add-on developed by another group.  The efforts of 
others who have added manageSIEVE support as a bolt-on are appreciated, 
but an official version would be preferable.


Regards,

  - Brian



Re: [Dovecot] Updated v1.1 and summer plans

2007-05-23 Thread Marshal Newrock
On Wed, 23 May 2007 08:59:29 -0500
Brian G. Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Timo Sirainen wrote:
  On Tue, 2007-05-22 at 00:52 +0800, M1 wrote:
  Dear Timo,
 
  How about managedsieve?
  
  I think it'll have to wait for v2.0. Especially because I want it
  to be distributed in dovecot-sieve package, not in the main dovecot
  package. This just isn't possible without the larger changes that
  v2.0 brings.
 
 Please do put a manageSIEVE interface formally on the roadmap. (I'd
 vote for v1.1, but I understand the technical issues that may push it
 to 2.0).  SIEVE really isn't useful without a manageSIEVE interface
 or a shell.

I would like to request that this also be capable of being a proxy,
similar to the pop/imap proxy.

-- 
Marshal Newrock
Ideal Solution, LLC - http://www.idealso.com


Re: [Dovecot] Updated v1.1 and summer plans

2007-05-22 Thread M1

Dear Timo,

How about managedsieve?

Regards,
Steve

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Re: [Dovecot] Updated v1.1 and summer plans

2007-05-21 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Mon, 2007-05-21 at 16:02 +0300, Timo Sirainen wrote:
   - A combined LIST + STATUS command (or possibly NOTIFY extension?
 http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gulbrandsen-imap-notify-03)

If anyone considered reading that, read a newer draft instead:

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gulbrandsen-imap-notify-05



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