Re: [Dovecot] dovecot created mailbox empty - all mail forwarded to main MX server and cyrus-dovecot conflict
tks for the links and tips
On Sat, 2010-07-03 at 10:15 -0500, /dev/rob0 wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 08:36:03PM +0800, Hans Neukomm wrote:
> > after lots of trial and error and the help of THIS mail list,
>
> FWIW this one is posted on the wrong list; this one's a Postfix
> issue. Your hint for that should have been to see that the logs
> demonstrating the problem were entirely from Postfix.
>
> > finally my dovecot-postfix combination seems to work
> > yet
> > the dovecot mail spool always is empty
> > all mail forwarded to my main mail server - but i have no mail
> > relay configured.
> >
> > why is the mail NOT in the dovecot inbox but forwarded to
> > another mail server ??
>
> Because the kriyayoga host does not know it's supposed to be the
> final destination for kriyayoga.com. Anything not recognized as a
> locally-hosted destination will be routed as per DNS lookup.
>
> http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html
> http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html
>
> > and why does postconf -A show cyrus and NOT dovecot ??
>
> Irrelevant to your issue, this is normal. Dovecot does not have a
> client SASL implementation.
>
> > below some relevant config data.
> >
> > my goal is to have a clean simple dovecot+postfix mail system
> > with nothing else (cyrus or so) involved when ever possible.
> >
> > -- DNS MX stuff
> >
> > dig mx kriyayoga.com
> > ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> > kriyayoga.com. 3600IN MX 10 smtp.kriyayoga.com.
> > kriyayoga.com. 3600IN MX 0 mail.kriyayoga.com.
>
> The dual MX is usually not a good idea. To do it right is far from
> simple. Your lower priority MX host will be a spam magnet.
>
> > the new dovecot setup is tested on smtp.kriyayoga.com and when
> > successfully working shall be used on both mail MX servers.
>
> Two mailstores? Again, this is not simple to set up.
>
> > --
> >
> > postfix stuff relevant to dovecot
> >
> > > postconf -A
> > cyrus
> >
> > > postconf -a
> > cyrus
> > dovecot
> >
> > my postconf -n shows nothing about cyrus in the config
> > NOR
> > anything about mail-relay to my main MX
> >
> > relayhost =
> > mailbox_transport =
> > mailbox_command =
>
> Those all being default settings, they do not belong in main.cf.
>
> > smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot
> > virtual_transport = dovecot
> >
> > -- below the mail log for sending mail to my dovecot box
> >
> > Jul 3 20:31:08 kriyayoga postfix/smtpd[27801]: connect from
> > unknown[124.108.51.96]
> > Jul 3 20:31:08 kriyayoga dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection:
> > pid=27801
> > Jul 3 20:31:09 kriyayoga dovecot: auth(default): client in:
> > AUTH#0111#011PLAIN#011service=smtp#011nologin#011lip=78.46.101.111#011rip=124.108.51.96#011resp=aGFucwBoYW5zAEk4Q3Nhd084MUR4Y1JlTTh1QmgwTA==
> > Jul 3 20:31:09 kriyayoga dovecot: auth(default):
> > passwd-file(hans,124.108.51.96): lookup: user=hans
> > file=/etc/dovecot/passwd
> > Jul 3 20:31:09 kriyayoga dovecot: auth(default): client out:
> > OK#0111#011user=hans
>
> Okay, those are Dovecot logs, but not entirely relevant to the
> problem. The user hans authenticated successfully and is being
> permitted to relay to an external domain, kriyayoga.com.
>
> > Jul 3 20:31:09 kriyayoga postfix/smtpd[27801]: BC90129D9F:
> > client=unknown[124.108.51.96], sasl_method=PLAIN, sasl_username=hans
> > Jul 3 20:31:10 kriyayoga postfix/cleanup[27807]: BC90129D9F:
> > message-id=<201007032031.07830.h...@kriyayoga.com>
> > Jul 3 20:31:10 kriyayoga postfix/qmgr[14627]: BC90129D9F:
> > from=, size=1287, nrcpt=2 (queue active)
> > Jul 3 20:31:10 kriyayoga postfix/smtp[27808]: BC90129D9F:
> > to=, relay=mail.kriyayoga.com[88.198.14.45]:25,
> > delay=0.95, delays=0.5/0.01/0.17/0.26, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok:
> > queued as 97FCE138024)
> > Jul 3 20:31:10 kriyayoga postfix/smtp[27808]: BC90129D9F:
> > to=, relay=mail.kriyayoga.com[88.198.14.45]:25,
> > delay=0.95, delays=0.5/0.01/0.17/0.26, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok:
> > queued as 97FCE138024)
>
> According to the MX records you posted, mail.kriyayoga.com. is the
> highest priority ("0") MX host for kriyayoga.com. So the rest of the
> non-spamming world is going to send all kriyayoga.com. mail there as
> well.
>
> > Jul 3 20:31:10 kriyayoga postfix/qmgr[14627]: BC90129D9F: removed
> >
> >
> > at this point the mail is gone already - NO mail in my dovecot
> > inbox - NO error - just automatically relayed to my main MX
>
> If you need to followup on this to the Postfix list, see:
> http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html#mail
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Re: [Dovecot] dovecot created mailbox empty - all mail forwarded to main MX server and cyrus-dovecot conflict
On Sat, Jul 03, 2010 at 08:36:03PM +0800, Hans Neukomm wrote:
> after lots of trial and error and the help of THIS mail list,
FWIW this one is posted on the wrong list; this one's a Postfix
issue. Your hint for that should have been to see that the logs
demonstrating the problem were entirely from Postfix.
> finally my dovecot-postfix combination seems to work
> yet
> the dovecot mail spool always is empty
> all mail forwarded to my main mail server - but i have no mail
> relay configured.
>
> why is the mail NOT in the dovecot inbox but forwarded to
> another mail server ??
Because the kriyayoga host does not know it's supposed to be the
final destination for kriyayoga.com. Anything not recognized as a
locally-hosted destination will be routed as per DNS lookup.
http://www.postfix.org/ADDRESS_CLASS_README.html
http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html
> and why does postconf -A show cyrus and NOT dovecot ??
Irrelevant to your issue, this is normal. Dovecot does not have a
client SASL implementation.
> below some relevant config data.
>
> my goal is to have a clean simple dovecot+postfix mail system
> with nothing else (cyrus or so) involved when ever possible.
>
> -- DNS MX stuff
>
> dig mx kriyayoga.com
> ;; ANSWER SECTION:
> kriyayoga.com. 3600IN MX 10 smtp.kriyayoga.com.
> kriyayoga.com. 3600IN MX 0 mail.kriyayoga.com.
The dual MX is usually not a good idea. To do it right is far from
simple. Your lower priority MX host will be a spam magnet.
> the new dovecot setup is tested on smtp.kriyayoga.com and when
> successfully working shall be used on both mail MX servers.
Two mailstores? Again, this is not simple to set up.
> --
>
> postfix stuff relevant to dovecot
>
> > postconf -A
> cyrus
>
> > postconf -a
> cyrus
> dovecot
>
> my postconf -n shows nothing about cyrus in the config
> NOR
> anything about mail-relay to my main MX
>
> relayhost =
> mailbox_transport =
> mailbox_command =
Those all being default settings, they do not belong in main.cf.
> smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot
> virtual_transport = dovecot
>
> -- below the mail log for sending mail to my dovecot box
>
> Jul 3 20:31:08 kriyayoga postfix/smtpd[27801]: connect from
> unknown[124.108.51.96]
> Jul 3 20:31:08 kriyayoga dovecot: auth(default): new auth connection:
> pid=27801
> Jul 3 20:31:09 kriyayoga dovecot: auth(default): client in:
> AUTH#0111#011PLAIN#011service=smtp#011nologin#011lip=78.46.101.111#011rip=124.108.51.96#011resp=aGFucwBoYW5zAEk4Q3Nhd084MUR4Y1JlTTh1QmgwTA==
> Jul 3 20:31:09 kriyayoga dovecot: auth(default):
> passwd-file(hans,124.108.51.96): lookup: user=hans
> file=/etc/dovecot/passwd
> Jul 3 20:31:09 kriyayoga dovecot: auth(default): client out:
> OK#0111#011user=hans
Okay, those are Dovecot logs, but not entirely relevant to the
problem. The user hans authenticated successfully and is being
permitted to relay to an external domain, kriyayoga.com.
> Jul 3 20:31:09 kriyayoga postfix/smtpd[27801]: BC90129D9F:
> client=unknown[124.108.51.96], sasl_method=PLAIN, sasl_username=hans
> Jul 3 20:31:10 kriyayoga postfix/cleanup[27807]: BC90129D9F:
> message-id=<201007032031.07830.h...@kriyayoga.com>
> Jul 3 20:31:10 kriyayoga postfix/qmgr[14627]: BC90129D9F:
> from=, size=1287, nrcpt=2 (queue active)
> Jul 3 20:31:10 kriyayoga postfix/smtp[27808]: BC90129D9F:
> to=, relay=mail.kriyayoga.com[88.198.14.45]:25,
> delay=0.95, delays=0.5/0.01/0.17/0.26, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok:
> queued as 97FCE138024)
> Jul 3 20:31:10 kriyayoga postfix/smtp[27808]: BC90129D9F:
> to=, relay=mail.kriyayoga.com[88.198.14.45]:25,
> delay=0.95, delays=0.5/0.01/0.17/0.26, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 Ok:
> queued as 97FCE138024)
According to the MX records you posted, mail.kriyayoga.com. is the
highest priority ("0") MX host for kriyayoga.com. So the rest of the
non-spamming world is going to send all kriyayoga.com. mail there as
well.
> Jul 3 20:31:10 kriyayoga postfix/qmgr[14627]: BC90129D9F: removed
>
>
> at this point the mail is gone already - NO mail in my dovecot
> inbox - NO error - just automatically relayed to my main MX
If you need to followup on this to the Postfix list, see:
http://www.postfix.org/DEBUG_README.html#mail
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