Re: Installation Question: Is a web server required ?

2021-04-28 Thread Shaun Johnson
On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 17:28:41 +
"White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS]"  wrote:

> Can Dovecot be installed with Postfix and without being behind a web
> server ?
> 
> I want a mail service that can only be accessed by POP3(s)/IMAP(s)
> and not by a web UI.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 

Most definitely - web server is only required if you wanted things like
webmail access - or any type of management interface.  


Re: Installation Question: Is a web server required ?

2021-04-28 Thread Heiko Schlittermann
White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS]  (Mi 28 Apr 2021 
19:28:41 CEST):
> Can Dovecot be installed with Postfix and without being behind a web server ?
Yes.

> I want a mail service that can only be accessed by POP3(s)/IMAP(s) and not by 
> a web UI.
Dovecot is a pure POP3/IMAP server. No Web-UI is required/provided.

(I think, there are other "modules" planned or working already, like
calendar or such. But maybe I'm confusing this with alternative mail
access server software.)

-- 
Heiko


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Re: Installation Question: Is a web server required ?

2021-04-28 Thread White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS]
Thanks.
That is what we want.  Just mail, no extras

-Original Message-
From: dovecot  on behalf of Heiko Schlittermann 

Organization: schlittermann -- internet & unix support
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 13:36
To: 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Installation Question: Is a web server required ?

White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS]  (Mi 28 Apr 
2021 19:28:41 CEST):
> Can Dovecot be installed with Postfix and without being behind a web 
server ?
Yes.

> I want a mail service that can only be accessed by POP3(s)/IMAP(s) and 
not by a web UI.
Dovecot is a pure POP3/IMAP server. No Web-UI is required/provided.

(I think, there are other "modules" planned or working already, like
calendar or such. But maybe I'm confusing this with alternative mail
access server software.)

-- 
Heiko



Re: Installation Question: Is a web server required ?

2021-04-28 Thread Benny Pedersen

On 2021-04-28 19:28, White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS] wrote:
Can Dovecot be installed with Postfix and without being behind a web 
server ?


I want a mail service that can only be accessed by POP3(s)/IMAP(s) and
not by a web UI.


can a car fly without gasoline ? :=)

none of the above software require x11

not even roundcube


Re: Installation Question: Is a web server required ?

2021-04-28 Thread White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS]
If you push the car off a cliff, it will fly for a few seconds.
Thanks for responding.

-Original Message-
From: dovecot  on behalf of Benny Pedersen 

Organization: junc.eu
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 13:43
To: "dovecot@dovecot.org" 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Installation Question: Is a web server required ?

On 2021-04-28 19:28, White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS] wrote:
> Can Dovecot be installed with Postfix and without being behind a web 
> server ?
> 
> I want a mail service that can only be accessed by POP3(s)/IMAP(s) and
> not by a web UI.

can a car fly without gasoline ? :=)

none of the above software require x11

not even roundcube



Re: Installation Question: Is a web server required ?

2021-04-28 Thread @lbutlr
On 28 Apr 2021, at 11:28, White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS] 
 wrote:
> only be accessed by POP3(s)/IMAP(s

There is no reason to support POP3 on a new mail service. IMAP is suppserior in 
every way, both for the user and for the server.

(There is nothing that POP3 can do that IMAP cannot duplicate, and many many 
MANY things that IMAPO can do that POP3 cannot).


-- 
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bow and arrow. None of this makes sense.



Re: Installation Question: Is a web server required ?

2021-04-29 Thread justina colmena ~biz
On Wednesday, April 28, 2021 9:41:17 PM AKDT @lbutlr wrote:
> On 28 Apr 2021, at 11:28, White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS] 
 wrote:
> > only be accessed by POP3(s)/IMAP(s
> 
> There is no reason to support POP3 on a new mail service. IMAP is suppserior
> in every way, both for the user and for the server.
> 
> (There is nothing that POP3 can do that IMAP cannot duplicate, and many many
> MANY things that IMAPO can do that POP3 cannot).

The astronaut guy says the POP3/IMAP setup should "just work," and as pissed 
off as I am at U.S. government bureaucracy and maybe I confuse NASA with 
another government agency NSA and government spooks demanding back door access 
to read my email over my shoulder, I happen to agree with the general 
sentiment.

POP3 is the better and more efficient protocol for clients who simply want to 
download email messages to their desktop once and for all so they don't need 
to keep accessing the server over and over again to read the same old 
messages.

IMAP is better for clients with multiple devices etc.

Professionals of any line of work who use email at work on the job and 
especially people on this list know that already.

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Re: Installation Question: Is a web server required ?

2021-04-29 Thread @lbutlr
On 29 Apr 2021, at 01:23, justina colmena ~biz  wrote:
> POP3 is the better and more efficient protocol for clients who simply want to 
> download email messages to their desktop once and for all so they don't need 
> to keep accessing the server over and over again to read the same old 
> messages.

Trivial to duplicate that behavior with IMAP with a simple rule to move 
messages to a local folder.

Again, there is nothing POP3 does that IMAP does not.

-- 
...on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to
beat them unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary.
-- James Nicoll



Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Installation Question: Is a web server required ?

2021-04-28 Thread White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS]
Excellent.
The documentation is not clear about this.
We want the email users to use POP/IMAP clients.

Many thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Shaun Johnson 
Organization: LinuxMagic Inc.
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2021 at 13:33
To: Daniel White 
Cc: "dovecot@dovecot.org" 
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: Installation Question: Is a web server required ?

On Wed, 28 Apr 2021 17:28:41 +
"White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS]"  wrote:

> Can Dovecot be installed with Postfix and without being behind a web
> server ?
> 
> I want a mail service that can only be accessed by POP3(s)/IMAP(s)
> and not by a web UI.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> 

Most definitely - web server is only required if you wanted things like
webmail access - or any type of management interface.  



Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Installation Question: Is a web server required ?

2021-04-28 Thread Heiko Schlittermann
White, Daniel E. (GSFC-770.0)[NICS]  (Mi 28 Apr 2021 
19:37:42 CEST):
> Excellent.
> The documentation is not clear about this.
> We want the email users to use POP/IMAP clients.

Not sure which documentation you refer to. I think, neither Postfix nor
Dovecot mention a web UI as an essential part, if they mention it at all.

(I'm talking about the "core" documentation, not about Wikis, HowTows,
Blogs, …)

Best regards from Dresden/Germany
Viele Grüße aus Dresden
Heiko Schlittermann
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