Re: [ext] What is the state of SMTPUTF8 support?

2022-06-02 Thread Philip Iezzi


> On 15 Mar 2021, at 14:17, Sylvhem  wrote:
> 
> Le dimanche 14 mars 2021 à 21:13 +0100, Benny Pedersen a écrit :
>> On 2021-03-14 17:29, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
>>> * Ralf Hildebrandt :
> I didn’t get any answer. Does somebody know if there was any
> progress
> in implementing the RFC 6531?
 
 http://www.postfix.org/SMTPUTF8_README.html
>>> 
>>> Sorry, I was on the wrong list.
>> 
>> is there hope to see dns server support rfc 6531 ?
>> 
>> how should dovecot and postfix handle both idn and eai maps, postfix
>> is 
>> not ready yet there, its does not matter aslong dns have yet to
>> support 
>> eai aswell
> 
> I’m sorry, but I’m a bit puzzled by your answer.
> What is the relation between RFC 6531 and the DNS? I’m clearly no
> expert, but I thought that RFC only specified an SMTP extension. How
> are DNS servers concerned by that?
> Anyway, Postfix already implemented SMTPUTF8. Having Dovecot do as well
> would allow for mail-stack that rely on both Postfix and Dovecot to
> send e-mail using addresses containing non-ASCII characters. That would
> be a big progress for people who wish to use internationalized e-mail
> addresses.
> And the last time I asked questions about it here, people said to me it
> was being worked on. Hence my question.
> 
> --
> Sylvhem

Hi there

Any update on this? I am running latest Dovecot 2.3.19, but lmtp still doesn't 
seem to support SMTPUTF8. In my mail.log I am getting the following bounces, 
while using `smtputf8_enable = yes` (which nowadays is the default) in Postfix:

status=bounced (SMTPUTF8 is required, but was not offered by host 
mail.example.com[/var/run/dovecot/lmtp])

(Dovecot running on the same server, mail.example.com = localhost, in this 
example)

Cheers,
Philip

Re: [ext] Re: What is the state of SMTPUTF8 support?

2021-03-15 Thread Sylvhem
Le dimanche 14 mars 2021 à 21:13 +0100, Benny Pedersen a écrit :
> On 2021-03-14 17:29, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:
> > * Ralf Hildebrandt :
> > > > I didn’t get any answer. Does somebody know if there was any
> > > > progress
> > > > in implementing the RFC 6531?
> > > 
> > > http://www.postfix.org/SMTPUTF8_README.html
> > 
> > Sorry, I was on the wrong list.
> 
> is there hope to see dns server support rfc 6531 ?
> 
> how should dovecot and postfix handle both idn and eai maps, postfix
> is 
> not ready yet there, its does not matter aslong dns have yet to
> support 
> eai aswell

I’m sorry, but I’m a bit puzzled by your answer.
What is the relation between RFC 6531 and the DNS? I’m clearly no
expert, but I thought that RFC only specified an SMTP extension. How
are DNS servers concerned by that?
Anyway, Postfix already implemented SMTPUTF8. Having Dovecot do as well
would allow for mail-stack that rely on both Postfix and Dovecot to
send e-mail using addresses containing non-ASCII characters. That would
be a big progress for people who wish to use internationalized e-mail
addresses.
And the last time I asked questions about it here, people said to me it
was being worked on. Hence my question.

--
Sylvhem



Re: [ext] Re: What is the state of SMTPUTF8 support?

2021-03-14 Thread Benny Pedersen

On 2021-03-14 17:29, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote:

* Ralf Hildebrandt :



> I didn’t get any answer. Does somebody know if there was any progress
> in implementing the RFC 6531?

http://www.postfix.org/SMTPUTF8_README.html


Sorry, I was on the wrong list.


is there hope to see dns server support rfc 6531 ?

how should dovecot and postfix handle both idn and eai maps, postfix is 
not ready yet there, its does not matter aslong dns have yet to support 
eai aswell


Re: What is the state of SMTPUTF8 support?

2021-03-14 Thread Benny Pedersen

On 2021-03-14 17:26, Sylvhem wrote:

Le mardi 23 février 2021 à 13:50 +0100, Sylvhem a écrit :



It’s been some time since I last saw a mention of SMTPUTF8 here. Last
time I heard about it, it was worked on.
Does anybody have news about that?



I didn’t get any answer. Does somebody know if there was any progress
in implementing the RFC 6531?


dns servers only support idn, not yet eai, waiting to see the ice break


Re: [ext] Re: What is the state of SMTPUTF8 support?

2021-03-14 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Ralf Hildebrandt :
> > > It’s been some time since I last saw a mention of SMTPUTF8 here. Last
> > > time I heard about it, it was worked on.
> > > Does anybody have news about that?
> > > 
> > 
> > I didn’t get any answer. Does somebody know if there was any progress
> > in implementing the RFC 6531?
> 
> http://www.postfix.org/SMTPUTF8_README.html

Sorry, I was on the wrong list.

-- 
Ralf Hildebrandt
  Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk
  Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin
  Campus Benjamin Franklin
  Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin
  Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962
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Re: [ext] Re: What is the state of SMTPUTF8 support?

2021-03-14 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
> > It’s been some time since I last saw a mention of SMTPUTF8 here. Last
> > time I heard about it, it was worked on.
> > Does anybody have news about that?
> > 
> 
> I didn’t get any answer. Does somebody know if there was any progress
> in implementing the RFC 6531?

http://www.postfix.org/SMTPUTF8_README.html

-- 
Ralf Hildebrandt
  Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk
  Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin
  Campus Benjamin Franklin
  Hindenburgdamm 30 | D-12203 Berlin
  Tel. +49 30 450 570 155 | Fax: +49 30 450 570 962
  ralf.hildebra...@charite.de | https://www.charite.de



Re: What is the state of SMTPUTF8 support?

2021-03-14 Thread Sylvhem
Le mardi 23 février 2021 à 13:50 +0100, Sylvhem a écrit :
> Hi!
> 
> It’s been some time since I last saw a mention of SMTPUTF8 here. Last
> time I heard about it, it was worked on.
> Does anybody have news about that?
> 

I didn’t get any answer. Does somebody know if there was any progress
in implementing the RFC 6531?

--
Sylvhem



RE: What is the state of SMTPUTF8 support?

2021-02-23 Thread Marc

sendmail is (also) still lacking this. 





> -Original Message-
> From: dovecot  On Behalf Of Sylvhem
> Sent: 23 February 2021 13:50
> To: dovecot@dovecot.org
> Subject: What is the state of SMTPUTF8 support?
> 
> Hi!
> 
> It’s been some time since I last saw a mention of SMTPUTF8 here. Last
> time I heard about it, it was worked on.
> Does anybody have news about that?
> 
> --
> Sylvhem


What is the state of SMTPUTF8 support?

2021-02-23 Thread Sylvhem
Hi!

It’s been some time since I last saw a mention of SMTPUTF8 here. Last
time I heard about it, it was worked on.
Does anybody have news about that?

-- 
Sylvhem