Hi Jason, 2009/1/29 Jason van Zyl <ja...@maven.org>: > Howdy, > > I've been looking at reporting in Maven 3.x and I've been following the work > that Vincent Massol has been doing over at XWiki where he has made some > attempts at melding Doxia, the XWiki rendering engine, and WikiModel. You > can see the proposal here: > > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/RenderingEngineConvergence > > I am looking to remove the Doxia dependency from Maven 3.x so that reporting > is removed from core and just becomes another set of components. Having
I definitely agree to decouple Maven from Doxia, or conversely :) We actually have a lot of problems due to this coupling, see MNG-3402. > Doxia coupled to Maven is not very nice so in the next couple releases of > the Maven 3.x alphas the hard dependency on Doxia will be removed. This will > open the door for anyone who wants to add a different mechanism. Doxia > reports will still work, I'm not planning on removing the functionality just > unbinding it from the core. But that opens the door for something new! Some questions to clarify what you have in mind: - how do you plan to integrate reporting concretely to Maven 3? - what about the backward compatibility in the reporting plugins? > What I personally think the best path would be is to help what Vincent has > started. There are really only three people here who work on Doxia, the > releases are very slow in coming and I think you would immediately double or Agree but we work when we have time :) @Dennis: what are your availabilities to release the version 1.0? After this release, 1.1 could be out, IMHO all stuffs are there. > triple the size of the team merging with the XWiki folks and getting the > WikiModel developer as well. This is what the XWiki folks do all the time > and I think you would get some more velocity in the progress of the project > as a whole. Vincent is using Plexus for his stuff so it's not that wildly > different but I think you would get more visibility over there and a higher The xwiki proposal seems to move the Doxia code to the xwiki umbrella, so do you plan to do it? @Vincent, could you clarify why a fork is not possible for you? Cheers, Vincent > degree of collaboration. I think you would also get a model that is more > complete for things like blogs, wikis, and books. > > Any thoughts? I've CC'd Vincent too as I'm not sure he's on this list. > > Thanks, > > Jason > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Jason van Zyl > Founder, Apache Maven > jason at sonatype dot com > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > People develop abstractions by generalizing from concrete examples. > Every attempt to determine the correct abstraction on paper without > actually developing a running system is doomed to failure. No one > is that smart. A framework is a resuable design, so you develop it by > looking at the things it is supposed to be a design of. The more examples > you look at, the more general your framework will be. > > -- Ralph Johnson & Don Roberts, Patterns for Evolving Frameworks > >
