Re: [drakelist] R4C hum

2005-08-14 Thread Bob Henderson



Paul

I would recommend the Sherwood psu mod. 
It'llget rid of most of your other dubious electrolytics in one fell 
swoopand will also significantly reduce heat disipation around the pto 
area Thiswill lead to a significant improvement in frequency 
stability. It's a straight forward installation too.

73

Bob, 5B4AGN

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  From: 
  AD3G 
  To: drakelist@www.zerobeat.net 
  Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2005 4:18 
  AM
  Subject: [drakelist] R4C hum
  
  Hello list...I recently acquired a nice 
  R4C,but it has some issues...I powered up slowly on a variac,but the filter 
  caps were hopelessly shot. I replaced with a Sherwood filter cap kit.I have 
  far less hum,but it's still there,just not as bad(I can hear reciever hiss 
  now). Would a power supply mod be in order,(Sherwood)or should I just change 
  out the caps on the p/s board? I'm new to Drake gear and wanted to see what 
  the general consensus of the Drake gang would be.
  I plan on keeping the R4C for a 
  while,so I want to do it right the first time. 
  
   73 
  Paul


Re: [drakelist] R4C IMD problem (was image problem)

2005-08-14 Thread Bob Henderson

Bob Henderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] made an utterance to the drakelist gang
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Many thanks to those who have written off reflector expressing interest and
offering encouragement.

The primary mystery is why the 6EJ7 1st mixer in this particular R-4C has
such an abysmal IMD3 performance.  The mixer circuit isn't complex and I've
been through it a dozen times looking for faulty components but find none.

Without any specific knowledge of what the injection levels to the 6EJ7
ought to be, I've had little choice but to follow my instincts and aim to
increase the ratio of premix to wanted signals.

Having found the 6BA6 RF amp guilty of producing IMD3 products only 60dB or
so down and having found that increasing the screen voltage to 100V improved
this to around 80dB, Steve, VK6VZ told me that Tom, W8JI recommends
increasing the screen volts to 130V.  This I have done and so far as I can
determine, IMD3 products at the output of the RF amp are now 90dB down.
That has to be good.

However, the big problem is the 6EJ7 1st mixer and of course, the increased
output from the RF amp, consequent upon the increase in screen volts,
exacerbates that.  So I've reduced the gain of the RF amp to around 12-15dB
through the introduction of a 2k2 resistor and 50nF bypass cap into the
cathode feed.  This allows me to leave the AGC1 feed to the RF amp
unmolested.

Next, I set about increasing premix injection.  Basically I want to double
this from around 2V p.p to around 4V p.p.  It wouldn't be any use messing
about with the premix circuit itself, as I need the same injection from the
T-4XC premix chain.  It certainly doesn't make much sense to have to modify
the T-4XC premix chain too.  I decided use of a 2:1 UNUN was worth a try.  I
wound 7 trifilar turns on a T37-2 core (I think T37-7 would be better, but I
don't have one) and connected them appropriately.  I disconnected the premix
injection from the 10pF ceramic cap on g1 of the 6EJ7.  I then connected the
premix to the input side of the 1:2 UNUN and attached the output to the 10pF
cap.  Maybe the UNUN provides an unwelcome bit of loading but the premix
level still increased to a more desirable 3.5V p.p.  My fears about the
T37-2 core not being good enough for 10m where the premix injection is
around 35 MHz appear unfounded.  I still get a good 3.5V p.p. there.

So where has all of this got me?

Well, with two 30mV signals at the input to the RF amp I now get an output
of around 380mV, which feeds into the 6EJ7.  The premix injection is now
3.5V giving me an injection ratio of 9:1.  That feels a lot better to me
than the 2:1 I had before I made any changes.

So what about IMD3 response?

Well that has improved from around 45dB to around 70dB.  Now 70dB is
somewhat short of impressive but nonetheless, it's a sackload more than 45dB
:-))  This 70dB figure holds good for 60 kHz spacing and for 2 kHz spacing.
(Sherwood CF600/6 installed).

Remaining concerns?

Despite the significant change in injection ratio at the input to the 1st
mixer, examination of the IMD3 products at its output confirm that this
mixer is still the fundamental constraint on overall IMD3 performance.

I'm still scratching my head over why this mixer in its standard config
should be so bad.  Though at least I can now listen usefully to 40m in the
early evening while I do so:-)

73

Bob, 5B4AGN


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Re: [drakelist] R4C hum

2005-08-14 Thread Gary Poland



Paul,
 There is a mod to relocate the wiring that 
connects from the power supply board to the can filter capacitor outside of the 
main harnessand route themalong the outside edgeof the chassis 
with heavier gage wire. This helps reduce the hum.

73, Gary


[drakelist] radio from h**l (was 4-pin mosfet)

2005-08-14 Thread don



 My thanks to the all the list 
for all the help! I now have the 
8.050mhz bfo working! I can hear signals !!! 
(sort of)

 So far I have completely replaced the 
2nd IF/audio board and now 
also with help here, have replaced the 3n204 on the 
pbt board. and rebuilt
the s-meter.

 This radio has been so very well taken 
care of! some one took out 
all of those ugly little orange caps and replaced 
them all with nice, shiny
green ones! it looks soo much better now. 
they eve added a few extra
ones! but to keep the vintage look , all the 
electro caps were left stock.

 I think that if I had taken the covers off, 
turn the unit on, then pretended it 
was a fresh field of snow while I wrote my 
name on it, I could not of done a better
job of wrecking it.
 
 But this is good. it is stretching and 
growing my trouble shooting skills in a great way,
as I am not going to give up on my tr7 !! SO 
, back to attempting the alignment procedure,
setting the +10v, no problem, plenty of 
range. but when attempting the s-meter alignment,
I have very little agc adjustment, enough to make 
an audible difference, but not enough to get 
the 2 s unit rise on the meter as the manuel calls 
for. so I am back to the 2nd IF board,
at least its completely original, I thiink I saw a 
mod somewhere that gives you more adjustment
to it, and I'll double check voltage supplies on 
the board and such.

Thanks again to all the help, it looks to me like 
the drake community demonstrates the whole 
ham radio concepts of helpful service and enjoyment 
of a great hobby

Don Frasher
KB5GNH
who someday will actually talk on the air with a 
drake!!






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Re: [drakelist] radio from h**l (was 4-pin mosfet)

2005-08-14 Thread George KB2Z


Don,
If you do decide to autograph the rig, be sure its unplugged.
Good luck, George KB2Z

At 11:32 AM 8/14/05, you wrote:

My thanks to the all the list for all the help! I now have
the 
8.050mhz bfo working! I can hear signals !!! (sort of)

 So far I have completely replaced the 2nd
IF/audio board and now 
also with help here, have replaced the 3n204 on the pbt board. and
rebuilt
the s-meter.

 This radio has been so very well taken care
of! some one took out 
all of those ugly little orange caps and replaced them all with nice,
shiny
green ones! it looks soo much better now. they eve added a few
extra
ones! but to keep the vintage look , all the electro caps were left
stock.

 I think that if I had taken the covers off, turn the
unit on, then pretended it 
was a fresh field of snow while I wrote my name on it, I could not
of done a better
job of wrecking it.
 
 But this is good. it is stretching and growing my trouble
shooting skills in a great way,
as I am not going to give up on my tr7 !! SO , back to attempting
the alignment procedure,
setting the +10v, no problem, plenty of range. but when attempting
the s-meter alignment,
I have very little agc adjustment, enough to make an audible difference,
but not enough to get 
the 2 s unit rise on the meter as the manuel calls for. so I am
back to the 2nd IF board,
at least its completely original, I thiink I saw a mod somewhere that
gives you more adjustment
to it, and I'll double check voltage supplies on the board and such.

Thanks again to all the help, it looks to me like the drake
community demonstrates the whole 
ham radio concepts of helpful service and enjoyment of a great hobby

Don Frasher
KB5GNH
who someday will actually talk on the air with a drake!!





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[drakelist] Need please: TV-7 Settings for Drake Tube

2005-08-14 Thread wb6orz



 Re the 6HS6 (actually two of 
them) in my R4-A, there are no test settings called out in the TV-7 data Book. 
Does anyone have these, perhaps developed by others over time. My recent visit 
to EB5AGV'sfine TV-7 site came up short.
 Thanks in advance.
 
(73) Les 
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[drakelist] Need Conversion Kit for L4B Relay

2005-08-14 Thread Holt Computers, Inc.



Hello to all,

Sometime ago I bought a small kit to change the 2 
pin vox relay to a RCA 
jack for keying. I have lost the email and im 
wondering if you know of someone
that makes these little modifications precut to 
install for the Drake L4B?

Any help is much appreciated.

Best to all,

Gary WC4F
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Re: [drakelist] Need Conversion Kit for L4B Relay

2005-08-14 Thread Gary Poland



Gary,
 John Kriner has the kit available from time 
to time on Ebay. Contact him at [EMAIL PROTECTED].

73, Gary