Re: [Drakelist] Drakelist Digest, Vol 35, Issue 15

2011-05-14 Thread Jim Bo

Drakers,

I too have the same problem and was 
going to do what Garey suggests,
but had other stuff pop up (weddings, 
health, family, and PSK-31 bug bite),

so have not tried anything yet.

Waiting with baited breath to what Joe 
finds. I made my own cables and thery 
are the same
total capacitance spec'ed by Drake 
(shorter) using the pF/foot data.


Thanks Joe and others.

Jim




Joe Loverti wrote:
When I tune up using the T-4XB PTO 
on 40 meters, I'm getting about 60
watts maximum. When I tune up using 
the R-4A PTO the power output is
95+ watts maximum. There's also 
about a 10 db difference in receive
between the two units, the R-4A 
being the stronger receive of the
two. I am using original Drake 
interconnect cables between the two
units. I'd expect some difference 
between them, but this seems

excessive. Any thoughts?

WW8X
Joe





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Date: Sat, 14 May 2011 00:01:56 -0400
From: Joe Loverti ww8x@gmail.com
To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Subject: [Drakelist] Power output 
difference between T-4XB and R-4A

PTO's
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Curt,
Thanks for the answer. I'm using the 
cable with metal tag for the 
injection.
I haven't tried tuning up the T-4XB 
without it plugged in -- I'll give it 
a
try an see what gives. If there's no 
difference, that would eliminate the

cable as the problem.

WW8X
Joe



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[Drakelist] Adding filtering capacitor

2011-05-14 Thread Neil M Califano
Is there any advantage of adding a large filtering capacitor if there is no 
issue with the radio? Is a  larger capacitor worthwhile and will it result in 
smoother power? 

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Re: [Drakelist] Adding filtering capacitor

2011-05-14 Thread K9sqg
It depends on what the application is.  DC filtering in a rectifier circuit?  
Bypass for a grid/cathode?  Coupling capacitor for audio stages?  Etc. etc.


If indeed it is for filtering, and in a rectifier circuit, it can improve 
regulation if the power supply is unregulated, it can reduce the ripple, etc. 
BUT you don't want to go too large or the surge current may exceed the rating 
of the diodes used for rectification.





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From: Neil M Califano cchange...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Sat, May 14, 2011 11:09 am
Subject: [Drakelist] Adding filtering capacitor


Is there any advantage of adding a large filtering capacitor if there is no 
issue with the radio? Is a  larger capacitor worthwhile and will it result in 
smoother power? 

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[Drakelist] TR-4C Bias

2011-05-14 Thread Billy Loyd
I have a TR-4C that I cant set the bias on. When adjusting the bias control on 
the power supply it has no effect on the radio. I have 2 power supplies and 
both 
have no effect. I can remove the bottom cover from the supply and set the bias 
to the proper - voltage using my volt meter but it does not set the bias on the 
radio. Where do I start looking.
Tnx in advance for the helpde Bill..KY4U
PS. I have checked the cable from both supplies and the connector on the radio 
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Re: [Drakelist] TR-4C Bias

2011-05-14 Thread Garey Barrell

Bill -

I'm guessing here, since you didn't specify.  Do you mean when you key 
the transceiver you have NO PLATE current, or LOTS of PLATE current???


Assuming you have NO PLATE current, which is most likely, consider that 
the PA tube normally want to draw as much current as possible when 
keyed, the BIAS is to LIMIT that current.  If this is the case, then the 
transceiver PA is not really being keyed.  Since you have eliminated the 
PS as the problem, there are only a couple of things to check.


First, has the TR-4C been modified for use with TC-2 or TC-6?  If it 
has, then there must be a jumper connected between two jacks on the 
upper rear panel to apply Screen voltage to the PA.


IF not, then 'something' is open.  IF the voltages on the PA tubes are 
correct, e.g., 650 VDC on plate caps, 260 VDC on Screen pins, and the 
Cathode is grounded, the PA WILL draw maximum current.   Pin 3 of each 
final tube goes to a 15 ohm, 1W resistor.  All three resistor leads then 
go to RFC2.  The other lead of RFC2 connects to a ceramic feedthrough on 
the shield wall to R45.  The other lead of R45 goes to a relay contact 
that is grounded in transmit.  If this circuit is unbroken, including 
the relay contacts closing, and the Plate and Screen voltages are 
correct, the PA WILL draw current.  Regardless of ANY other fault or 
problem in the transceiver.


73, Garey - K4OAH
Glen Allen, VA

Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line
and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs
www.k4oah.com


Billy Loyd wrote:
I have a TR-4C that I cant set the bias on. When adjusting the bias 
control on the power supply it has no effect on the radio. I have 2 
power supplies and both have no effect. I can remove the bottom cover 
from the supply and set the bias to the proper - voltage using my volt 
meter but it does not set the bias on the radio. Where do I start looking.

Tnx in advance for the helpde Bill..KY4U
PS. I have checked the cable from both supplies and the connector on 
the radio for loose connections but nothing wrong there.Bill
   


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Re: [Drakelist] TR-4C Bias

2011-05-14 Thread Curt Nixon
What does the PA current read with the RF gain at zero and the PTT 
switched to transmit?


If it is high, then that might suggest an issue with the circuitry at 
the finals.  Hard to guess if it is low and not adjustable.


Curt
KU8L



Billy Loyd wrote:
I have a TR-4C that I cant set the bias on. When adjusting the bias 
control on the power supply it has no effect on the radio. I have 2 
power supplies and both have no effect. I can remove the bottom cover 
from the supply and set the bias to the proper - voltage using my volt 
meter but it does not set the bias on the radio. Where do I start looking.

Tnx in advance for the helpde Bill..KY4U
PS. I have checked the cable from both supplies and the connector on 
the radio for loose connections but nothing wrong there.Bill



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