[Drakelist] FS: Drake Sherwood C-Line

2011-06-14 Thread Michael Scanlan
Complete station.  R-4C with all three Drake crystal filters, Sherwood custom 
front panel switch for the USB/LSB CF-2K/8 filter pair, Sherwood CF-600/6 first 
IF roofing filter, three ten meter crystals, super clean and ready to go.  
T-4XC in similar condition, full output.  AC-4 working good with AC-4R rebuild 
kit still sealed (never got around to putting it in); MS-4 speaker; original 
Drake cables with new Lo-Loss PTO and INJ cables; all recently serviced and 
tweaked by Gary Poland, W8PU.  Hi-Res detailed photos at  
http://s272.photobucket.com/albums/jj167/wa0epw/?start=all .   I have over 
$1,500 invested in this station and will consider offers of $900 or better plus 
packing/shipping from St. Paul MN.  Contact off-list at 
ctrpoint2004(a)yahoo.com .  Thank you  73.  Michael WA0EPW___
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[Drakelist] spare part

2011-06-14 Thread Bill Frost
Hello,
I have a 500 hertz crystal filter, for the TR-4CW, if anyone needs it as a 
spare or ???  $30.00 plus shipping.
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Re: [Drakelist] spare part

2011-06-14 Thread David
Do you know if this will also fit the TR6?  Both have 9 MHz if at the filter
point.  If so, I would be interested.

 

David Assaf, III

W5XU

 

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Hello,

 

I have a 500 hertz crystal filter, for the TR-4CW, if anyone needs it as a
spare or ???  $30.00 plus shipping.

 

Tnx  73, Bill

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Re: [Drakelist] spare part

2011-06-14 Thread LOU GIOVANETTI


I have  Drake B line for sale  here is the story The R-4B ia in excalent 
shape both cosmeitcly and working. It is a perfict working receiver. the 
T-4XB just developed an AC noise on the carrier and dropped in power? 
The cosmetics is great both rigs are very good lookers. The AC-4 power 
suply and MS-4 speaker are in good working condition.
I am looking for $600.00 for the whole station. go to QRZ and look up 
KB2DHG you will see them there.


On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:24 PM, David wrote:

 Do you know if this will also fit the TR6?  Both have 9 MHz if at the 
filter point.  If so, I would be interested.


David Assaf, III
W5XU

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Hello,

I have a 500 hertz crystal filter, for the TR-4CW, if anyone needs it as 
a spare or ???  $30.00 plus shipping.


Tnx  73, Bill
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[Drakelist] Collins and Drake Compared

2011-06-14 Thread Paul Christensen
For the past few weeks, I've been comparing receive structures between the 
Drake 4 series and Collins 75S-3 series.  I'm surprised by the 
similarities - as well as the differences.


Some obvious differences:

- Mechanical IF filter versus crystal or LC filtering;
-160m coverage ability;
- Tunable BFO versus PBT;
- Q Mult in 75S-3.

Similarities:

- PTO VFO with 1 kHz dial markings;
- Preselector (similar octave structure?);
- Crystal 1st LO (unlike early JA receivers during the same time period);
- Audio power and AF driver stages similar to R-4B;
- Extensive use of RCA jacks, including RF IN;

Collins, like Drake, used PBT in the 1950s and I'm curious why it was 
abandoned in the S line.  Perhaps too complex to use among 
commercial/military/amateur users?  In essence, the least common operating 
denominator wins?


Both series use the chassis for the filament return, although Collins used 
four (!) heater lines in the 75S3.   I found Collins' treatment of the 
headphone jack quite interesting.  They use a resistive divider network to 
load the output line during periods of high Z loads.  Seems wholly 
unnecessary given that the 4-ohm transformer tap is routed through the H/P 
jack's N/C contacts and the 500-ohm tap makes use of the divider in which 
one resistor is bypassed during insertion of headphones.


My recollection of the S line tuning feel is sketchy but I recall a superbly 
designed VFO tuning mechanism onto the PTO -- probably at least as 
mechanically well designed as the those found in the Drake 4 series?


Perhaps the Collins S line has a slight edge with quality of construction 
and components although I've not taken a look at whether the 75S-3 uses 
ceramic switch wafers versus Phenolic -- and whether they used Teflon 
harness wiring (where Drake fails).I have nearly no operating time with 
an S line and I was considering a purchase.  But based on what I'm seeing in 
the schematics, I'm not impressed enough to unload my bank account for a S 
line.  This may seem  like a trolling exercise to some, but I find the 
comparison between the two products to be very interesting especially when 
comparing cost and evolution of their product lines.


Thoughts on the matter very much appreciated.

Paul, W9AC


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Re: [Drakelist] Collins and Drake Compared

2011-06-14 Thread Richard Knoppow


- Original Message - 
From: Paul Christensen w...@arrl.net

To: drakelist@zerobeat.net
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 7:30 PM
Subject: [Drakelist] Collins and Drake Compared


For the past few weeks, I've been comparing receive 
structures between the Drake 4 series and Collins 75S-3 
series.  I'm surprised by the similarities - as well as 
the differences.


Some obvious differences:

- Mechanical IF filter versus crystal or LC filtering;
-160m coverage ability;
- Tunable BFO versus PBT;
- Q Mult in 75S-3.

Similarities:

- PTO VFO with 1 kHz dial markings;
- Preselector (similar octave structure?);
- Crystal 1st LO (unlike early JA receivers during the 
same time period);

- Audio power and AF driver stages similar to R-4B;
- Extensive use of RCA jacks, including RF IN;

Collins, like Drake, used PBT in the 1950s and I'm curious 
why it was abandoned in the S line.  Perhaps too complex 
to use among commercial/military/amateur users?  In 
essence, the least common operating denominator wins?


Both series use the chassis for the filament return, 
although Collins used four (!) heater lines in the 75S3. 
I found Collins' treatment of the headphone jack quite 
interesting.  They use a resistive divider network to load 
the output line during periods of high Z loads.  Seems 
wholly unnecessary given that the 4-ohm transformer tap is 
routed through the H/P jack's N/C contacts and the 500-ohm 
tap makes use of the divider in which one resistor is 
bypassed during insertion of headphones.


My recollection of the S line tuning feel is sketchy but I 
recall a superbly designed VFO tuning mechanism onto the 
PTO -- probably at least as mechanically well designed as 
the those found in the Drake 4 series?


Perhaps the Collins S line has a slight edge with quality 
of construction and components although I've not taken a 
look at whether the 75S-3 uses ceramic switch wafers 
versus Phenolic -- and whether they used Teflon harness 
wiring (where Drake fails).I have nearly no operating 
time with an S line and I was considering a purchase.  But 
based on what I'm seeing in the schematics, I'm not 
impressed enough to unload my bank account for a S line. 
This may seem  like a trolling exercise to some, but I 
find the comparison between the two products to be very 
interesting especially when comparing cost and evolution 
of their product lines.


Thoughts on the matter very much appreciated.

Paul, W9AC

I would be interested in hearing from others who have 
both systems.
I do find Drake gear difficult to work on because of 
the very short leads, use of component leads as connection 
wires, and low-temperature insulation. I just have trouble 
with the very confined spaces. There is good reason for the 
short leads and it shows up in the performance of the gear, 
nonetheless, its difficult to work on. I don't know that 
Collins is any better.
What I remember is that Collins made a big splash with 
the S line stuff when it came out and then Drake blew them 
out of the water with about similar performance (sometimes 
better) at maybe 2/3rds the price.



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